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Re: SDA Sabbath School Lesson 3, 3rd Qtr 2014 - The Holy Spirit
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2014, 03:48:56 PM »
Amen.  Romans 7 is precisely the situation where there is conviction, but no repentance. One may be sorry, but that is not repentance not to be repented of. Repentance comes from Christ. It is the result of grace accepted. Why is one sorry? Because of the result to come? That is not true repentance.

Repentance comes after we go to Christ, not before. Here is the Bible explanation. "Despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?....For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death." Romans 2:4, 2 Cor. 7:10. True repentance must come after Christ, for it involves a turning away from sin. That only happens after conversion when filled with the Spirit of God. Conviction cannot imply repentance, not Bible repentance.
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Re: SDA Sabbath School Lesson 3, 3rd Qtr 2014 - The Holy Spirit
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2014, 05:34:02 AM »
Friday July 18

Further Study: Ellen G. White, "The Power Promised," pp. 19-23, in Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8; "The Gift of the Spirit," pp. 47-56, in The Acts of the Apostles.

"At all times and in all places, in all sorrows and in all afflictions, when the outlook seems dark and the future perplexing, and we feel helpless and alone, the Comforter will be sent in answer to the prayer of faith. Circumstances may separate us from every earthly friend; but no circumstance, no distance, can separate us from the heavenly Comforter. Wherever we are, wherever we may go, He is always at our right hand to support, sustain, uphold, and cheer." — Ellen G. White, The Desire of Ages, pp. 669, 670.

"The Holy Spirit was the highest of all gifts that He [Jesus] could solicit from His Father for the exaltation of His people. The Spirit was to be given as a regenerating agent, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail. The power of evil had been strengthening for centuries, and the submission of men to this satanic captivity was amazing. Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power. It is the Spirit that makes effectual what has been wrought out by the world’s Redeemer." -Page 671.


Amen!! This is why Jesus told Nicodemus he must be born again of the Spirit. Then man becomes a partaker of the divine nature because his heart is possessed by the Spirit.

Discussion Questions:

    Given the human tendency to self-exaltation, what lessons does the humble and subordinate operation of the Holy Spirit teach us?

    In dialogue with Nicodemus, Jesus compared the Spirit to the wind. What spiritual lessons may we learn from that comparison?

    Some people claim that the evidence of being "filled with the Spirit" is to be able to speak in what is commonly referred to as "tongues." How should we respond to this claim?

Very simply share the truth of the power of grace to transform the life. Many who have been deceived need to see the simplicity of the gospel. They need to see their error in believing they are saved in sin. They need to be convicted of the sin in their lives and the power of grace to keep one from sinning. Tney need to know of the real power of the Spirit, not to speak gibberish, but to love the unlovable.


    We tend to think of the work of the Holy Spirit on an individual, one-to-one basis, which is, of course, correct. At the same time, how can we, as a corporate body, experience the reality of His presence in our church as a whole?

That is an interesting question that has more than one answer. The Spirit does not always work in the same manner with people or with a church. Those who resist the Spirit will have a different outcome than those who submit to Him. Some churches and some conferences who continue in rebellion against the Spirit will reap what they have sown.  No matter what we do as a corporate body, we will experience the reality of the presence of the Holy Spirit in our church. He is working in every church until there is no more hope. As for the Seventh-day Adventist Church as a whole, it will see revival and reformation through the working of the Spirit. Today, the Spirit is attempting to convict sinners and reveal the loveliness of Jesus. The Laodicean message is being given in the churches. The straight testimony is going forth and it is causing a shaking.  The corporate body will appear as it is about to fall, but will not. Many will be shaken out, but there are many waiting to come in. The world and the church are in turmoil, but all who accept the Holy Spirit into their hearts have peace in the middle of the storm. God has His witnesses in the world and in His church.  The end is approaching. Let us look up, our redemption draweth nigh!  What is the Spirit saying to you today? What will be your response? Today decides tomorrow. What we are beholding is what we become.
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Re: SDA Sabbath School Lesson 3, 3rd Qtr 2014 - The Holy Spirit
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 03:43:45 PM »
When people try to strain at the Holy Spirit it reveals some kind of problem. I have a friend who has been very zealous about things. I have no problem with that.  ;) However, he got tangled up in determining the Holy Spirit's make up, which led to him thinking the HS was not a person which led to a skewed view of Christ which led him out of the church. Thankfully he is back but there still appears to be some confusion.

There is a great deal we do not know about the HS and will not know in this life. The Holy Spirit is a person. To define the person of the HS leaves us at a loss in many ways and to try to do so can lead down dangerous paths. There is much we do not know about God and are unable to comprehend such as ....what does it mean for Jesus to be the Son of God? He was not born or created yet He came from the Father. There are dimensions of  the Godhead we are not aware of.

Colporteur,

I am curious as to how this man's view on the Holy Spirit skewed his view of Christ? I don't know how long ago this happened but I was trying to figure out how the one affects the other. I think you are correct in that we need to be careful as not to go beyond what is revealed in the Word of God. It does not take much to enter the twilight zone.


I don't know if  there was a direct connection. Perhaps in his zeal to honor the Father relative to the Holy spirit the issue bled over into his view of the relationship between Jesus and His Father. That is not uncommon. Example.. the JWs. Some stumble over honoring the Father at the expense of the rest of the Godhead. They seem worried that the Father's glory is at stake. I can never quite get that when we realize that each aspect of the Godhead is total selflessness and total love. Just like the relationship between the SOP given through EGW and that which came before that, the relationship within the Godhead is not competitive so neither do we need to be in that regard. God is bigger than that.
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Re: SDA Sabbath School Lesson 3, 3rd Qtr 2014 - The Holy Spirit
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2014, 02:22:18 PM »
Colporteur,

After I asked this question, it did come to mind that when a person misunderstands the position and work of the Holy Spirit that it is just as easy to misunderstand the position and work of Christ. Some have made Christ a created being and have proclaimed Him as a lesser God, which goes along with the concern you stated, as some seem worried about the Father's glory. When one of the Godhead receives glory they all receive it. Christ came to reveal the Father and the Holy Spirit came to uplift the Son. Your comment "that each aspect of the Godhead is total selflessness and total love" is well stated, as this is the heart of the government of God and the motive of service for all who are part of His kingdom.

It is easy to try to compare the things of heaven with the way things work in this world, which for the most part is the survival of the fittest. It hard to image a world were position is not looked upon as being better or superior to someone else. No competition in heaven no one will be seeking for the highest seat and no politics to get a promotion. Yes God is much bigger than all this.
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