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Post by: Richard Myers on September 12, 2000, 06:31:00 AM



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Welcome to our daily reading of The Desire of Ages!   We invite you to share your blessings as you are moved by the Spirit of God while beholding the loveliness of Jesus.

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The book The Desire of Ages is the most beautiful portrayal of the life of Jesus that has ever been written. It is an inspired revelation of who God is. Next to the Bible it is the most important book ever written. Why? Because it reveals our God in a manner that God has directed. Jesus said "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." Again he says, "I am in the Father, and the Father in me." "No man knoweth the Son but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him." "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father." The character of God is everything to us. By beholding Him we become like Him. We want to know what is right and what is wrong. We want to be like Jesus. He has given us an opportunity to know Him. Shall we look upon Jesus?

All Christians come to know God in very personal ways. God reaches out to lost humanity in many different ways. From the earliest years of life He speaks to the mind of the little child through the Holy Spirit. In the darkest jungles of Africa, He speaks through the book of nature. In those lands where people are privileged to have books, and the freedom to print them, God speaks through the Bible.

The Lord Jesus sends His missionaries throughout the world teaching the precepts that are clearly laid out in His Book. In the last days of this earth's history we are told that He will pour out His Spirit upon His people. "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: and on My servants and on My handmaidens I will pour out in those days of My Spirit; and they shall prophesy."

And what shall they dream, and what shall they see, and what shall they speak? Will not they speak of Him who gave all that we might live? Yes, they will speak of Jesus.

Following is the first of 87 topics that will be started, one for each chapter of the book. May the Lord bless all that read and all that post.

"His name shall be called Immanuel, . . . God with us." "The light of the knowledge of the glory of God" is seen "in the face of Jesus Christ." From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; He was "the image of God," the image of His greatness and majesty, "the outshining of His glory." It was to manifest this glory that He came to our world. To this sin-darkened earth He came to reveal the light of God's love,--to be "God with us." Therefore it was prophesied of Him, "His name shall be called Immanuel."

This is to be our study now and throughout eternity. The love of God, that He would give us His Son. That He would allow His innocent Son to suffer the penalty of our Sins, that we might have a place with Him on His throne! The cost was infinite and yet so many refuse to accept this most precious gift, refuse to be changed into His likeness.

There is a most beautiful passage that explains not only the character of our God, but the character of those who know not Christ. "Now sin has marred God's perfect work, yet that handwriting remains. Even now all created things declare the glory of His excellence. There is nothing, save the selfish heart of man, that lives unto itself. No bird that cleaves the air, no animal that moves upon the ground, but ministers to some other life. There is no leaf of the forest, or lowly blade of grass, but has its ministry. Every tree and shrub and leaf pours forth that element of life without which neither man nor animal could live; and man and animal, in turn, minister to the life of tree and shrub and leaf. The flowers breathe fragrance and unfold their beauty in blessing to the world. The sun sheds its light to gladden a thousand worlds. The ocean, itself the source of all our springs and fountains, receives the streams from every land, but takes to give. The mists ascending from its bosom fall in showers to water the earth, that it may bring forth and bud."

We too, may have this character. We may receive the same power that Jesus obtained from His Father to live an unselfish life. Satan has said over and over that God is not fair because He gave man His law that could not be obeyed. But, here in this first chapter we find the Biblical truth that we can obey God's law of love.

"Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. 'In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren.' Heb. 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us. Therefore Jesus was 'in all points tempted like as we are.' Heb. 4:15. He endured every trial to which we are subject. And He exercised in His own behalf no power that is not freely offered to us. As man, He met temptation, and overcame in the strength given Him from God. He says, 'I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart.' Ps. 40:8. As He went about doing good, and healing all who were afflicted by Satan, He made plain to men the character of God's law and the nature of His service. His life testifies that it is possible for us also to obey the law of God."

The power of God's love will be displayed in His church upon this earth. The character of Jesus will be revealed in His people.  Of His people God says, "They shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon His land. For how great is His goodness, and how great is His beauty!" Zech. 9:16, 17. The exaltation of the redeemed will be an eternal testimony to God's mercy".





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     "His name shall be called Immanuel, . . . God with us." "The light of the knowledge of the glory of God" is seen "in the face of Jesus Christ." From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; He was "the image of God," the image of His greatness and majesty, "the outshining of His glory." It was to manifest this glory that He came to our world. To this sin-darkened earth He came to reveal the light of God's love,--to be "God with us." Therefore it was prophesied of Him, "His name shall be called Immanuel."
     By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,--God's thought made audible. In His prayer for His disciples He says, "I have declared unto them Thy name,"--"merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,"--"that the love wherewith Thou hast loved Me may be in them, and I in them." But not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto. 
     In the beginning, God was revealed in all the works of creation. It was Christ that spread the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth. It was His hand that hung the worlds in space, and fashioned the flowers of the field. "His strength setteth fast the mountains." "The sea is His, and He made it." Psalm 65:6; 95:5. It was He that filled the earth with beauty, and the air with song. And upon all things in earth, and air, and sky, He wrote the message of the Father's love.   
     Now sin has marred God's perfect work, yet that handwriting remains. Even now all created things declare the glory of His excellence. There is nothing, save the selfish heart of man, that lives unto itself. No bird that cleaves the air, no animal that moves upon the ground, but ministers to some other life. There is no leaf of the forest, or lowly blade of grass, but has its ministry. Every tree and shrub and leaf pours forth that element of life without which neither man nor animal could live; and man and animal, in turn, minister to the life of tree and shrub and leaf. The flowers breathe fragrance and unfold their beauty in blessing to the world. The sun sheds its light to gladden a thousand worlds. The ocean, itself the source of all our springs and fountains, receives the streams from every land, but takes to give. The mists ascending from its bosom fall in showers to water the earth, that it may bring forth and bud.
     The angels of glory find their joy in giving,--giving love and tireless watchcare to souls that are fallen and unholy. Heavenly beings woo the hearts of men; they bring to this dark world light from the courts above; by gentle and patient ministry they move upon the human spirit, to bring the lost into a fellowship with Christ which is even closer than they themselves can know. 
     But turning from all lesser representations, we behold God in Jesus. Looking unto Jesus we see that it is the glory of our God to give. "I do nothing of Myself," said Christ; "the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father." "I seek not Mine own glory," but the glory of Him that sent Me. John 8:28; 6:57; 8:50; 7:18. In these words is set forth the great principle which is the law of life for the universe. All things Christ received from God, but He took to give. So in the heavenly courts, in His ministry for all created beings: through the beloved Son, the Father's life flows out to all; through the Son it returns, in praise and joyous service, a tide of love, to the great Source of all. And thus through Christ the circuit of beneficence is complete, representing the character of the great Giver, the law of life.
     In heaven itself this law was broken. Sin originated in self-seeking. Lucifer, the covering cherub, desired to be first in heaven. He sought to gain control of heavenly beings, to draw them away from their Creator, and to win their homage to himself. Therefore he misrepresented God, attributing to Him the desire for self-exaltation. With his own evil characteristics he sought to invest the loving Creator. Thus he deceived angels. Thus he deceived men. He led them to doubt the word of God, and to distrust His goodness. Because God is a God of justice and terrible majesty, Satan caused them to look upon Him as severe and unforgiving. Thus he drew men to join him in rebellion against God, and the night of woe settled down upon the world. 
     The earth was dark through misapprehension of God. That the gloomy shadows might be lightened, that the world might be brought back to God, Satan's deceptive power was to be broken. This could not be done by force. The exercise of force is contrary to the principles of God's government; He desires only the service of love; and love cannot be commanded; it cannot be won by force or authority. Only by love is love awakened. To know God is to love Him; His character must be manifested in contrast to the character of Satan. This work only one Being in all the universe could do. Only He who knew the height and depth of the love of God could make it known. Upon the world's dark night the Sun of Righteousness must rise, "with healing in His wings." Malachi 4:2. 
     The plan for our redemption was not an afterthought, a plan formulated after the fall of Adam. It was a revelation of "the mystery which hath been kept in silence through times eternal." Romans 16:25, R. V. It was an unfolding of the principles that from eternal ages have been the foundation of God's throne. From the beginning, God and Christ knew of the apostasy of Satan, and of the fall of man through the deceptive power of the apostate. God did not ordain that sin should exist, but He foresaw its existence, and made provision to meet the terrible emergency. So great was His love for the world, that He covenanted to give His only-begotten Son, "that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16. 
     Lucifer had said, "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; . . . I will be like the Most High." Isaiah 14:13, 14. But Christ, "being in the form of God, counted it not a thing to be grasped to be on an equality with God, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men." Philippians 2:6, 7, R. V., margin.
     This was a voluntary sacrifice. Jesus might have remained at the Father's side. He might have retained the glory of heaven, and the homage of the angels. But He chose to give back the scepter into the Father's hands, and to step down from the throne of the universe, that He might bring light to the benighted, and life to the perishing. 
     Nearly two thousand years ago, a voice of mysterious import was heard in heaven, from the throne of God, "Lo, I come." "Sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not, but a body hast Thou prepared Me. . . . Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me,) to do Thy will, O God." Hebrews 10:5-7. In these words is announced the fulfillment of the purpose that had been hidden from eternal ages. Christ was about to visit our world, and to become incarnate. He says, "A body hast Thou prepared Me." Had He appeared with the glory that was His with the Father before the world was, we could not have endured the light of His presence. That we might behold it and not be destroyed, the manifestation of His glory was shrouded. His divinity was veiled with humanity,--the invisible glory in the visible human form.
     This great purpose had been shadowed forth in types and symbols. The burning bush, in which Christ appeared to Moses, revealed God. The symbol chosen for the representation of the Deity was a lowly shrub, that seemingly had no attractions. This enshrined the Infinite. The all-merciful God shrouded His glory in a most humble type, that Moses could look upon it and live. So in the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night, God communicated with Israel, revealing to men His will, and imparting to them His grace. God's glory was subdued, and His majesty veiled, that the weak vision of finite men might behold it. So Christ was to come in "the body of our humiliation" (Philippians 3:21, R. V.), "in the likeness of men." In the eyes of the world He possessed no beauty that they should desire Him; yet He was the incarnate God, the light of heaven and earth. His glory was veiled, His greatness and majesty were hidden, that He might draw near to sorrowful, tempted men.   
     God commanded Moses for Israel, "Let them make Me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them" (Exodus 25:8 ), and He abode in the sanctuary, in the midst of His people. Through all their weary wandering in the desert, the symbol of His presence was with them. So Christ set up His tabernacle in the midst of our human encampment. He pitched His tent by the side of the tents of men, that He might dwell among us, and make us familiar with His divine character and life. "The Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us (and we beheld His glory, glory as of the Only Begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth." John 1:14, R. V., margin. 
     Since Jesus came to dwell with us, we know that God is acquainted with our trials, and sympathizes with our griefs. Every son and daughter of Adam may understand that our Creator is the friend of sinners. For in every doctrine of grace, every promise of joy, every deed of love, every divine attraction presented in the Saviour's life on earth, we see
 "God with us."
     Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. "In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren." Hebrews 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us. Therefore Jesus was "in all points tempted like as we are." Hebrews 4:15. He endured every trial to which we are subject. And He exercised in His own behalf no power that is not freely offered to us. As man, He met temptation, and overcame in the strength given Him from God. He says, "I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart." Psalm 40:8. As He went about doing good, and healing all who were afflicted by Satan, He made plain to men the character of God's law and the nature of His service. His life testifies that it is possible for us also to obey the law of God. 
     By His humanity, Christ touched humanity; by His divinity, He lays hold upon the throne of God. As the Son of man, He gave us an example of obedience; as the Son of God, He gives us power to obey. It was Christ who from the bush on Mount Horeb spoke to Moses saying, "I AM THAT I AM. . . . Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." Exodus 3:14. This was the pledge of Israel's deliverance. So when He came "in the likeness of men," He declared Himself the I AM. The Child of Bethlehem, the meek and lowly Saviour, is God "manifest in the flesh." 1 Timothy 3:16. And to us He says: "I AM the Good Shepherd." "I AM the living Bread." "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life." "All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth." John 10:11; 6:51; 14:6; Matthew 28:18. I AM the assurance of every promise. I AM; be not afraid. "God with us" is the surety of our deliverance from sin, the assurance of our power to obey the law of heaven. 
     In stooping to take upon Himself humanity, Christ revealed a character the opposite of the character of Satan. But He stepped still lower in the path of humiliation. "Being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2:8. As the high priest laid aside his gorgeous pontifical robes, and officiated in the white linen dress of the common priest, so Christ took the form of a servant, and offered sacrifice, Himself the priest, Himself the victim. "He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him." Isaiah 53:5.
     Christ was treated as we deserve, that we might be treated as He deserves. He was condemned for our sins, in which He had no share, that we might be justified by His righteousness, in which we had no share. He suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which was His. "With His stripes we are healed." 
     By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 7:26;  2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love. 
     Of His people God says, "They shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon His land. For how great is His goodness, and how great is His beauty!" Zechariah 9:16, 17. The exaltation of the redeemed will be an eternal testimony to God's mercy. "In the ages to come," He will "show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus." "To the intent that . . . unto the principalities and the powers in the heavenly places might be made known . . . the manifold wisdom of God, according to the eternal purpose which He purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord." Ephesians 2:7; 3:10, 11, R. V. 
     Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified. The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union. 
     The work of redemption will be complete. In the place where sin abounded, God's grace much more abounds. The earth itself, the very field that Satan claims as his, is to be not only ransomed but exalted. Our little world, under the curse of sin the one dark blot in His glorious creation, will be honored above all other worlds in the universe of God. Here, where the Son of God tabernacled in humanity; where the King of glory lived and suffered and died,--here, when He shall make all things new, the tabernacle of God shall be with men, "and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God." And through endless ages as the redeemed walk in the light of the Lord, they will praise Him for His unspeakable Gift,--


                    Immanuel, "God with us."
Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Kellee on September 13, 2000, 08:22:00 AM
(1) God has always revealed His glory in humble ways. ie, the burning bush, Jesus...
Is that just so we can behold Him in our sinful state, or might we be wrong in assuming He'll throw off all humble-ness at the Second Coming?

(2) "He [Jesus] exercised in His own behalf no power that is not freely offered to us. As man, He met temptation, and overcame in the strength given Him from God."

This really leapt out to me since I have been thinking about righteousness by faith. We usually point to Jesus as proof that, as humans, we can overcome sin. But Jesus, Himself, did not overcome sin on His own - even He relied on His own connection with God! I thought that was a neat idea.

(3) Satan wants to ruin us through sin "but in Christ, we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen."

That statement still amazes me!

(4) "In the place where sin abounds, God's grace much more abounds."

It really is hard to be lost. I think you have to be quite literally hell-bent on destruction.

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on September 13, 2000, 08:53:00 AM
Sister Kellee, "Many are called, but few are chosen." The road to heaven is straight, narrow, and steep. No one, not one, can get there even if they have the strength of Samson without the supernatural power of God. Having made that very plain, as it is in the Bible, I want to express the other side. There is no excuse for sin, not one. It is sin that will keep us out of heaven. God has provided a remedy for our hopeless condition, Jesus Christ. If we will learn of Him, we will love Him and therein is the power to keep the law of God. 

Sister Kelley, I appreciate what you have said about Jesus overcoming in the power given Him from His Father. Even though He was God, He was fully man and did not use His power to overcome sin. He is our example because He used power that is available to us. One of the reasons so many will be lost is that they believe a lie. They believe they can go to heaven without overcoming sin. They do not believe they need the power of God continually to overcome. Most think they are going to get their holy character when they get to heaven. What a deception! Today is the day we are to allow Jesus into our hearts that we might have His character and therefore be fit for heaven.mYou hit the nail right on the head!  :)
Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Joan Rügemer on September 14, 2000, 03:48:00 AM

Is it unitedly agreed up among us that the word 'sin' may at all times be substituted for the word rebellion ?

If rebellion is accepted as adequate theologically to describe the separation of a person from God, then is it a 'general' condition of the heart that the word sin/rebellion has as the meaning? In contrast to the single acts of sining or rebelling ?

Is somebody saying that a single act of sin after a true conversion and baptism causes one to loose the sealing of the Holy Spirit for being resurrected when Jesus comes in the clouds ?

I have always hold to the mental state of mind that my general bondage to rebellion was broken as I committed my heart/mind/soul Jesus. Now in my state of living in Santification days, He is working with me to clean up the residue of habit to single acts of spontaneously sinning. But I have always accepted my growth at each month of the year as being 'perfect' for that season of maturing because my eyes were on Jesus. My impulse to certain acts of rebellion has lessened with maturing. I am even more so to say 'perfect' in my life style now over as for twenty years ago. But if I had died 20 years ago as a true follower of Jesus though young in the faith, I am convinced that the spirit of God was so sealed in me dispite of my immaturities and proness to hurting others or whatever in sin acts then, that I still would have been of those in the resurrection of the righteous which is yet to take place. So my level of holiness may have been then different than now but I believe I would have still been accepted for the heavenly trip.

All of the above is based on the trust in the adequecy of the righteousness of Christ which is/was covering me because the blood of Christ covers for the future sins as well as the present. Not in my santification status in regard to elements of rebellion in me.

Joan

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: tami strand on September 15, 2000, 10:58:00 PM
Richard, I would like to share one of my favorite paragraphs from this chapter.

"It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal seperation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken."

Tami

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Kellee on September 16, 2000, 12:41:00 AM
Tami,

Thanks for quoting that paragraph - it is still one of my most favorites from the whole book! Doesn't the power of God just amaze you?

Look at the problem of sin - who could imagine anything worse than a split right down the middle of God's universe? And of course, God did not wish for us to sin. But once we had, He said, Okay now I'm going to take your mistake and bring such a marvelous blessing from it that we'll be closer than we ever could have before.

What kind of God is this, anyway??

If He can take a major problem like sin and bring something glorious out of it, I am assured that He can take all of my petty, stupid mistakes and turn them around for His glory! What a God!

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: R Myers on September 17, 2000, 10:34:00 AM
Sister Tami, the passage you have chosen is indeed amazing in it's revelation. These chapters are full of significance and even after reading them over and over for many years, I still learn more each time.

Your post is, I believe, heaven inspired to answer both Sister Kellee and the post just previous by Sister Joan. At issue in this great controversy between Christ and Satan is the "righteousness of Christ". Satan has been successful in great measure at blinding the eyes of humanity to the loveliness and the power of our God, which can both be summed up in one Word, grace.

Satan has charged God with being unfair in asking humanity to obey His law. He says it cannot be obeyed. Yet, in this beautiful book, over and over again it is stated that we can obey, in Christ. We are told that Jesus is our example in that He received power from above to obey and this same power is available to us.

Why is it we do not obey? What is the significance of our sins? Are we going to heaven if we continue in sin? How can we know the answer to these questions? Can we know? Will we trust in human wisdom or will we seek wisdom from above?<P>How many sins does it take to show that one is separated from God? Shall I be my own judge? Or shall we go to the Word to find out what are the conditions of eternal life? There are some ideas that have taken root and now must be addressed. We war not against flesh and blood, but rather against a foe that has had 6,000 years to sharpen his skill at deception. Only the power of God through the Word and the Holy Spirit can meet this challenge to truth.

Sister Tami, this passage you have chosen is an answer to his charge against the power of God's grace. Let us look at it. "It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen."

>Satan wants us to be eternally separated from God.  Has he been successful?  Well, we can see the world and say, yes, but what of God's people?  We look at Revelation chapter three and have to say, "yes" also. Is there hope in that the situation will change? Yes, the solution to our "lost" condition is given. Before we will seek a solution, we must first see we are lost. <P>Some may say, "The condition applies to the church, not me."  Fine, it may well be, but if it is so, then you will understand the message and know when you are in Christ and when you are not. Abiding in Christ we have eternal life and when not in Christ we do not have eternal life. "in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen."  The key words, "IN CHRIST".

This is not a whole study, The Desire of Ages is. My reply to the question, "What does it mean to be IN CHRIST?" is this. "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His." Romans 8:9. This is not my answer, but God's reply. Condemnation remains for all who sin a sin that they know is sin. Guilt brings death. If there is no guilt, then there is no knowledge of sin. If there is guilt, then go to Jesus and He will remove the guilt and more than this He will grant you grace to continue in His Spirit, and thus  "in Christ" we have eternal life. We do not believe in "once saved always saved", it is un-Biblical. We must abide in Christ to retain eternal life. The "monstrous teaching" within the church is that when one sins he does not have to be rejustified. This is a pointed teaching and is un-Biblical.

Listen to the conversation between Christ and a lawyer. "And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live." The heart with Christ in it brings forth good fruit, it cannot bring forth evil fruit (known sin).  Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh. Let us abide in Christ that we might have love one for another. This is eternal life. It is simple, don't eat one bite from what God has said not to eat and you will live. The soul that sinneth shall surely die. The Lord will not allow us to be tempted beyond what we can bear IF we will abide in Him. It is a promise. We must go to Jesus just as we are and He will not only forgive us, but He  cleanse us from all of our unrighteousness. As we behold His love, His goodness, we shall become like Him. This we may do each morning as we read The Desire of Ages.
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Post by: Joan Rügemer on September 17, 2000, 11:35:00 AM
<<<We do not believe in "once saved always saved", it is un-Biblical. We must abide in Christ to retain eternal life. The "monstrous teaching" within the church is that when one sins he does not have to be rejustified. This is a pointed teaching and is un-Biblical.>>>

Yes, I believed this even as I moved and worshiped among non-adventist churches. The Spirit taught me this early in my abiding in Christ.

So one must know the 'law' in it's entirety to have the knowledge of what is sin ? Most of us are not read up on the Law of God when we become new believers. We sin and are not aware of having broken the law. I know that Romans gives witness to the law in the hearts of the heathen being a witness for or against them.

Have we new in Christ lost our justification before God because of our immaturities being lived out in the new walk of faith ?

Joan

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Post by: Kellee on September 17, 2000, 12:03:00 PM
Richard,

Thank you for your post. It was so interesting to see a new perspective on that passage! I had never once looked at it and seen Obedience to the Law. I have always looked at it from relationship. In dealing with the sin problem, we see a clearer picture of God than has ever been revealed in all the history of the universe; thus, we're closer to Him than we would be if we had never sinned.

But it was neat to see a different perspective.

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on September 17, 2000, 12:56:00 PM
Sister Joan,  no matter what we believe, we know that God is not only merciful, but just. He bends over backwards to save us. We know this as we read in this beautiful book; we see how far He went to save us.

I anticipated that some would not take into consideration that God judges our heart, not our outward actions. "This is not my answer, but God's reply. Condemnation remains for all who sin a sin that they know is sin." Those that are not willfully ignorant of the Sabbath truth will not be judged guilty of breaking the fourth commandment. "To him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

If I understand you correctly, this should answer your concern. If you are going beyond this to the committing of known sin, then we have to say that even if the sin is not willful, nor premeditated, it still is sin and produces guilt and reveals a separation from God. This is not bad news even though it requires re-justification, or for those that are unfamiliar with the term, it requires confession and repentance in order attain to eternal life. Without repentance there is no forgiveness of our (known) sin. It is not bad news, because for those of us who love Jesus, we can return to Him confessing our sins and we have the promise of His forgiveness and cleansing power. Why should we be discouraged? We should not, rather we should see how weak we are and learn from our sin as Peter did when he was young in the faith.

We trust too much in ourselves when we are new in the faith and do not see our constant need of Jesus.  Jesus does not forsake us, He continues to knock on the door of the heart wanting back IN. We must acknowledge the correct understanding that He is not IN the heart when we do known sin and come quickly back to Him. This is His desire.  :)

I pray this helps to clarify our continual need of the Spirit of Jesus Christ IN our hearts that we might do His will (law as we know it)and retain eternal life.
Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on September 17, 2000, 01:40:00 PM
Sister Kellee, it is exciting to learn with others. As the Holy Spirit impresses our minds we are moved greatly. As we realize that He talks to others, we long to learn what they have been shown. It requires a death to self in order to appreciate what others are learning, or else self gets in the way. It is our natural heritage. That is not to make an excuse, but rather to acknowledge my great need of a total surrender moment by moment in order to receive His spiritual lessons.

You say "In dealing with the sin problem, we see a clearer picture of God than has ever been revealed in all the history of the universe; thus, we're closer to Him than we would be if we had never sinned."

Let's look a little closer at the "why".  I see two things happening.  Jesus bound Himself to humanity and did not take on the nature of angels who never fell. This makes Him one of us, who are in Christ. Also,  we who are IN Christ, have seen His love for us who have wounded Him. Angels receive no unmerited favor as we do. They cannot know of His love as we do. Those who have been forgiven much,love much. This is the sense that I see as being so very important, for this is what produces the new heart. Because we are so guilty and because we have been forgiven so much, we love so much. This binds us together with our Savior and our God in a relationship more intimate than the angels have with our Savior. They are not jealous, for they are Holy. They, like us who have sinned but now are abiding in Christ, find their great joy in giving.

It is the personal knowledge of my sins and the cost to my Savior to be forgiven that binds me personally to Him, closer than the angels that have never fallen.  :)
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Post by: Kellee on September 17, 2000, 02:14:00 PM
Richard,

After reading over your previous post, I think I agree with a lot of what you said. However, I also think that the quoted statement is true of the angels as well as us.

If Jesus also died for sinless angels, then part of what happened at the cross must also have been a demonstration of the truth about God (because the angels didn't really understand His character even though they lived with Him). The whole universe has been drawn closer to God as a result of sin, at least this is how I understand these passages from EGW and the Bible.

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Post by: Joan Rügemer on September 18, 2000, 01:35:00 AM
I have no recollection ever reading that the unfallen angels who stayed true to their first estate ever needed a Saviour or one to atone for their sin. They never rebelled.

May I also add that I have never read any theory or teaching that states that the atonement of Christ will be taken in claim by the Devil and his fallen angels to cleanse them from their sin of rebellion.

Joan

[This message has been edited by Joan Rügemer (edited 09-18-2000).]

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Kellee on September 18, 2000, 02:41:00 AM
Joan,

You're right. God did not have to die to atone for the sin of angels (who did not sin). But sinless angels still needed the cross. Why?

"For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell with him [Christ] and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." Colossians 1:20

Wait a minute...reconcile things in heaven?? Were things out of order in heavenly places? Apparently so. The angels still had questions over the charges that Satan had brought, and they needed just as much the revelation of God's character as we did.

Check out these passages too:

"...to put all things in heaven and on earth together under one head." Ephesians 1:10

"...the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms..." Ephesians 3:10

Even in the third chapter of DOA, we see that the angels did not understand the character of God. The fullness of time to them meant that God was going to rise up and sweep away everyone on the face of the earth. They thought He was a killer! And then Jesus came... and their own view of God was forever changed.

This will become more clear when we reach the chapters on the cross...I can't say it as well as Ellen did!  ;D

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Post by: Elder John Thurber on September 18, 2000, 05:20:00 AM
I would just like to thank you Richard and others for the clearity of the truth. In this thread. I will make more comments later if it is still going when I get back from my trip. I have been out of touch with all going on for some time but I love the study of the DA.
What a price Christ paid for us. When sin first entered the Angels stoped their singing in heaven, for they could not see a way to rectify the sin problem. But as soon as the story of redemption was announced in heaven all of heaven began to sing again. Praise the Lord. Friend John
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Post by: Richard Myers on September 18, 2000, 08:18:00 PM
Pastor John, we will miss you and yes, we will keep this thread going until Jesus comes back! It is a promise.  There are nuggets of gold still buried here!  :)  I know that when we mine together we will turn up more than when I do it by myself!   :)

We await your return.

Richard

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Post by: Richard Myers on September 18, 2000, 08:27:00 PM
Sister Kellee, I want to agree with you, but I want to say that the language could be improved upon, I think.  "Reconcile" has a very important meaning in our religion. It is more than understanding God's character better, it is a condition of the heart. It means to be one with God. The angels who never fell do not need to be "reconciled" to God. 

You are absolutely correct in saying the cross was crucial to the understanding of the character of God for the angels as well as for man.  It was an angel of unsurpassed beauty and intelligence that first fell. What is to stop one of the holy angels today from doing as Lucifer did?  The revelation of the love of God as seen at the cross. The grace of God extended to selfish man is for the purpose of keeping holy angels holy for eternity, as well as keeping you and I holy today. The blood of Jesus has keeping power for angels and fallen man! Some will argue, but it does not change this beautiful truth. :)
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Post by: Kellee on September 18, 2000, 11:01:00 PM
"It was an angel of unsurpassed beauty and intelligence that first fell. What is to stop one of the holy angels today from doing as Lucifer did? The revelation of the love of God as seen at the cross."

Richard, what can I say? When you're right, you're REALLY right!!  ;D

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on September 19, 2000, 07:00:00 AM
Sister Kellee, I take it you agree with this thought. :)

We are all erring humans capable of being wrong and therefore we ought to stay close to Jesus and listen to what others bring to us from the Bible. We ought to pray carefully over our study to see if we misunderstand what we have believed on a particular point. The consequences of being wrong fall upon our Lord. Many run with a message that never came from God and it does great harm. Souls are influenced away from the truth.

My dear sister, if you believe I have stated something that is opposed to the truth, then since I have broadcast what I believe to be the gospel widely, it would be important that you attempt to show me my error. I will spend the time with you.  If you care to do so privately that is fine, but since my teaching has been public for many years, it would be good for all to see the error so that it could be correct in their minds also.

Speaking in such public forums as TRO, opens one to a lot of criticism. This is the nature of teaching the truth. My admonition to all that study with me has always been to take what I say and compare it with the Bible. If you find there is something that is not correct, then let's take a look. Don't believe it because I said it. If you do, then you will believe someone else who comes with error. Always make certain it is true according to your own study.

It is good to see we are in agreement on this most important subject of the power of God's grace to keep one from sinning.  :)
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Post by: Kellee on September 19, 2000, 08:40:00 AM
Dear Richard,

I would not pretend to know the fundamentals of your beliefs - honestly, I have not read that widely on this forum. A few sections here and there...

My intent in posting here is not to "preach" or to try to point out where others are in "error." I just want to share what God is saying to me as I read each morning.

If we happen to agree on things, wonderful! May God be praised! If we disagree on some things, that's alright with me.  ;D

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Kellee on September 20, 2000, 01:01:00 AM
Richard,

Thanks for your post.  :)

I am sorry myself that I missed yesterday. I had to wake up very early to catch a train into London, and honestly, the Lord got put on the back burner until last night...

So, today you will get two chapters for the price of one!  ;D (As soon as I can get myself around to typing out my thoughts...)

Kellee

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on August 17, 2002, 09:26:00 AM
We begin again our study of this beautiful book The Desire Ages.  Such a blessing to be able to share with each other from around the world, what we are learning as we study the life of Christ.  May  God grant us more of His Spirit as we seek His face.

"His name shall be called Emanuel, God with us. " I am at a loss to improve upon the words written in this chapter.  They are so important and so well-written.  It is God's purpose that we should know Him. To accomplish this purpose He sent His only Son, a helpless baby, into our dark world where Satan claims dominion. By doing so our heavenly Father anticipated that some would avail themselves of the opportunity to witness this great Sacrifice.  It is my prayer that many will join with us in studying the life of God's dear Son and by beholding this unspeakable Gift, "Immanuel, God with us" we shall become imbued with His Spirit.
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Post by: Sister Marie on August 18, 2002, 03:56:00 PM
I have gotten the idea at times that there are some in our Church that believe that Salvation comes in the "Spirit" but we are still carnal in the body and because of it, we sin.
To me, what we see here is fact. However, does the Lord leave us here? Is this a excuse we can fall back on when we sin? The the Spiritual and the body at odds always? Naturally yes, but forever? No, I don't think so.
The Salvation I learned about was whole and complete. It includes the mind, the soul (all of us) and the body (and every part of it).
When we are forgiven by our Lord we are fully cleansed and made Whiter Than Snow. So cleansed that Jesus remembers our sin no more.
The carnal body can and must overcome. The Spirit is not a bridge by which we can slip our sinful self across the raging river to safety. The Spirit is the means of cleansing us and making us overcomers (in the body,mind,and soul. God's Spirit within us makes us whole. I like to think that the Spirit of God does not take us over on a bridge, but rather brings us through the raging river, cleansing us on the way more and more, till finely we are pure and clean before our Lord. This is indeed possible and it is promised. To say we can not overcome sin is like slapping Christ in the face with His own promise. It is a excuse from the mouth of satan, that we will loose eternity on if we believe it.

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With Christian Love,
Sister Glass

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on August 18, 2002, 09:32:00 PM
Yes, Sister Glass you are right,  there are many in the church who have been taught and believe Romans chapter 7 is the Christian experience. It is not, it was Paul's conversion experience when he first saw he was in a lost condition. See the topic on Romans in the BOL Forum. You will enjoy reading throught it.

Satan's deceptions have taken root in the church and are bearing a large crop. Many believe there is no condemnation to them that are "in Christ Jesus", even while they are sinning. As we see in this chapter this was Satan's original lie to Eve and to the angels in heaven.  But, God's truth is still truth. The soul that sinneth shall surely perish.
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Post by: Sister Marie on August 19, 2002, 04:15:00 PM
Thank you Brother Richard. And a beautiful book it is. I heard that in the Library of Congress it was considered the best book they have (and they have thousands) on the life of Christ. That sure made me feel good that they would admit that. Smile

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With Christian Love,
Sister Glass

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: Richard Myers on August 21, 2002, 07:11:00 AM
The English is a step up from what we see today and of course the author was inspired so it ought not surprise us that others recognize the beauty. But,  why so few of His children appreciate the book as we should?

Richard

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Post by: Sister Marie on August 21, 2002, 08:32:00 AM
The Desire of Ages along with the Steps to Christ are two of the most beautiful books written to speak to the heart of man today. So many however, are filled with the worlds desires to the point that such books are "boring".

What we feed the soul is what will feed us.
Where our heart is, there too is where every other part of us is; Our hearing, our eyesite, our emotions, everything!!

Where our heart is is what will lead us to what we choose to look at, listen to, what we spend time doing and also thinking, and people we choose to be with (especially for life in marriage)

Where the heart is, so are ye.

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With Christian Love,
Sister Glass

Title: Re: Read Online The Desire of Ages--1--God With Us
Post by: juliusnyar on July 21, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
I have just gone through the first chapter and am touched by the following quote:
Since Jesus came to dwell with us, we know that God is acquainted with our trials, and sympathizes with our griefs. Every son and daughter of Adam may understand that our Creator is the friend of sinners. For in every doctrine of grace, every promise of joy, every deed of love, every divine attraction presented in the Saviour's life on earth, we see "God with us."
Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. "In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren." Heb. 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us
So as we continue reading the book lets remember that God love us unconditionally and is ready to enter into our lives if we let him in.
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Post by: Mimi on July 21, 2013, 10:35:59 PM
Amen! We are so happy to have you join us in reading and discussing this incredible book. I too will begin again at the opening chapter.

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For in every doctrine of grace, every promise of joy, every deed of love, every divine attraction presented in the Saviour's life on earth, we see "God with us."

Again, amen. What comfort! What a Savior!
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Post by: Richard Myers on July 22, 2013, 10:49:24 AM
Yes, we shall begin anew with chapter one. What a blessing, Julius! We shall discover more of His love together. We pray others will join with us, for Jesus is the solution to all of our problems.

Julius, you have pointed out one of the most important truths that the world does not understand. How many times have we heard "If God is all powerful and if God is so good, then why does He allow innocent children to suffer and die?"  God is all powerful. Nothing happens in this world that He does not allow. God is love. He demonstrated this in a powerful manner when He let His Son come to this dark spot in the universe a helpless baby subject to the weaknesses of humanity, to fight the battle of life as we must fight it, at the risk of failure and eternal loss. Such love! Think of our heavenly Father as He watched His innocent Son suffer at the hands of those He came to save!  This is love!!

So, Julius has opened the door to our understanding why it is that God allows sin and suffering in this world. It is not God's fault there is sin, suffering, and death. As we continue our study, we shall find the answer to this all important question as to why God allows sin, suffering, and death.

Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. "In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren." Heb. 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us
So as we continue reading the book lets remember that God love us unconditionally and is ready to enter into our lives if we let him in.

Amen! If this were not so, that God loves us while we are yet sinners, then why would God have allowed His Son to come to this dark blot in the universe to suffer and die at the hands of His own people? He longs for us to see this great love that in return we might love Him.
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Post by: Richard Myers on July 22, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
In the very first paragraphs of the book, we find that Christ came to our Earth to reveal His love to us. "It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which 'seeketh not her own' has its source in the heart of God."

  His name shall be called Immanuel, . . . God with us." "The light of the knowledge of the glory of God" is seen "in the face of Jesus Christ." From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; He was "the image of God," the image of His greatness and majesty, "the outshining of His glory." It was to manifest this glory that He came to our world. To this sin-darkened earth He came to reveal the light of God's love,--to be "God with us." Therefore it was prophesied of Him, "His name shall be called Immanuel." 

By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,--God's thought made audible. In His prayer for His disciples He says, "I have declared unto them Thy name,"--"merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,"--"that the love wherewith Thou hast loved Me may be in them, and I in them." But not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto.

And, we notice that it was not just for us that Christ came to reveal this great love, but it was for the angels also. Why would this be?  We are going to better understand why it is that God allows sin, suffering, and death. His character has been maligned. God is both perfectly just and yet merciful. Satan has attempted to make out God to be just what Satan is. Such a bold faced lie. But, how many in this world have swallowed that lie? And, we remember that one third of the angels are no longer in heaven. Did they believe a lie also?
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Post by: wigina on July 22, 2013, 04:49:36 PM
Was wandering if you'd start from the beginning so now I to can start at chapter one!
Am Reminded of Satans deception of the angels! He Deceives them one day then the next he misrepresents their cause! Let's read and, find out. May Grace be with us as we, read
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Post by: Mimi on July 22, 2013, 05:14:35 PM
Oh yes, Wigina! We are at the beginning (again  ;D ) and happy to be there! Thank you for joining us!
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Post by: wigina on July 22, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
Imagine The creator becoming the created and the created becoming like the creator is that not so wonderful how nice the love of God!, how merciful His abundant Love. Now jesus received from His Father so He could give to us! Imagine The ocean resing to give back what the rivers have drained into it! But They would not for it is an open secret! Just Like the open secret which is Gods Love for us! For He has, desired to dwell with us and made the dwelling places of man His habitation! Whoah! Why Should I not be forever thankful? why should I not praise Him forever and ever? The Lowly king! The Humble Master! , the meek prince! The Desire of Ages.
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Post by: wigina on July 22, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
When the intercession finally comes to a close will we be able to stand in front of God? The Devil says no we cannot and yet Adam could before sin and Jesus did after sin. The Only way is to deliver all unto Jesus and die in Him. Oh Wretched man that I am who but Jesus can save me from my mortal sin.then I shall be able to call Father!
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Post by: Richard Myers on January 20, 2016, 09:35:01 AM
We pray there are more today who are seeking to know Jesus more fully. We will begin shortly reading again The Desire of Ages from this first chapter. Please join with us in beholding Jesus. It would be well to spend a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of Christ, for by beholding Him, we become changed into His character day by day.  "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 2 Cor. 3:18. This is a well kept secret that Satan has hidden from the minds of most professing Christians. Do you know that when Jesus reproved Nicodemus He revealed this secret to him. After telling Nicodemus he needed to be converted, He would not leave him without a knowledge of how to be born again. Read the conversation in John chapter three and see if you can discern what Jesus told Nicodemus he ought to do that would lead to his conversion.

Chapter one is posted at the beginning of this topic. There is also a link to an audio clip where you may listen to the chapters as we read.
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Post by: JimB on January 20, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
This chapter is a most wonderful chapter telling us the story of how, why and in what form Christ came to this earth to save us human beings. I've often repeated the words of david to myself.

Psalm 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

However, man is not my point in this post. Because we are always being attacked by the evil one and there is seldom time for rest in spiritual warfare we often (at least I) don't think a whole lot about the angels that are tasked with helping us poor human beings. However, here are a couple of statements about them from this chapter that I find interesting.

By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,--God's thought made audible.

It's hard for me to think that angels don't know everything about their Creator. They can talk and visit with Him face to face. Yet there is more even for them to learn. Here is more on this topic.

God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto. 

To me this is incredible. I can understand why my dull mind will find the science of salvation worth studying for eternity but angels!!?? If they have room for growth what about us? How is it that we have a God that is willing to include us however poor and dull we are. It wasn't until recently that I have found this statement to be true and a wonder to me. I truly believe we will be studying this theme forever. AMEN!

The story of Bethlehem is an exhaustless theme. In it is hidden “the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God.” Romans 11:33


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Post by: Richard Myers on February 21, 2016, 10:12:23 AM
While we are on a reading schedule, you may be reading a different chapter. Feel free to share your blessing on any chapter. If one has not been started, go ahead and start one on the chapter you wish to comment on. God would have us each share our blessings with each other. There are so many when we take time to behold Jesus each day!

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Post by: Richard Myers on April 18, 2016, 07:46:47 AM
What a blessing to have finished reading this most beautiful revelation of our God!! 

We begin again reading The Desire Ages.  Such a blessing to be able to share with each other from around the world, what we are learning as we study the life of Christ.  May  God grant us more of His Spirit as we seek His face. It is by beholding His grace that we are changed in character(2 Corinthians 3:18). It is not a one time change. We must be converted daily, moment by moment. Grace surrounds us as thick as the air we breathe, but if we to not see it, if we do not bring into the heart, it does us no good.

     It would be well for us to spend a thoughtful hour each day in contemplation of the life of Christ. We should take it point by point, and let the imagination grasp each scene, especially the closing ones. As we thus dwell upon His great sacrifice for us, our confidence in Him will be more constant, our love will be quickened, and we shall be more deeply imbued with His spirit. If we would be saved at last, we must learn the lesson of penitence and humiliation at the foot of the cross. 
     As we associate together, we may be a blessing to one another. If we are Christ's, our sweetest thoughts will be of Him. We shall love to talk of Him; and as we speak to one another of His love, our hearts will be softened by divine influences. Beholding the beauty of His character, we shall be "changed into the same image from glory to glory."   Desire of Ages, pg 83.

The entire chapter is posted at the beginning of this topic. There is also an audio link if you desire to listen to the chapter. May God bless our study of the life of Christ.
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Post by: Richard Myers on April 18, 2016, 09:25:51 AM
What a chapter! What truth!  This chapter has to be one of the most beautifully written works ever to come from the hand of man. If one were to prayerfully study this opening chapter, there would be an awakening to truth of this statement:

 By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen.

Why is this? Why would we when in Christ be closer to God then Adam before he fell?
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Post by: JimB on April 18, 2016, 04:31:04 PM
I don't know as though I can point to scripture and give you a reason but I will give my thoughts, right or wrong for that matter.

As I understand things in the body when a bone is broken and when its' fully healed that area is much stronger than it use to be. When doing a weld on a piece of metal that has been broken or fatigued and when an expert welder is done fixing the problem the same piece of metal may break somewhere else but not in that same spot. I've also heard and read testimonies of married couples who claim they have a deeper relationship with each other than before an affair. Please don't take my comparison's too far.  I'm not saying that a way to a stronger marriage is for one of them to have an affair. I'm only stating what I've heard others say after the fact when things are truly healed.

So now let's apply this to us and our sin problem. We have been separated from God by our evil nature. God our creator who loves us makes an extra special effort to win us back and heal the broken relationship. In the process of healing this relationship the sinner experiences something called grace that not only forgives but strengthens him or her to live a victorious life. Throughout the life there may be ups and downs, mistakes made but in the process our relationship with the Lord is strengthened. There is for us a side of God that unfallen beings never get to experience. This reminds me of a hymn that I love to sing and refrain says what I'm trying to say. Here is the refrain says.

Holy, holy, is what the angels sing,
And I expect to help them make
the courts of heaven ring;
But when I sing redemption’s story,
they will fold their wings,
For angels never felt the joys
that our salvation brings.
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Post by: Keithstrong on June 16, 2016, 05:18:27 AM
Well said, For me in the process of being saved i found myself beating myself up over my sinful conditions and that guilt/hate/anger drove me deeper into my sins and every time i would (step into the ring) (trying to put sinful habits out of my life) my guilt/hate/anger would kick in and my sins would become more frequent. I would try to talk to God through these moments and I would feel like the demoniac who was in chains  somehow I knew that Jesus was crossing the lake to come and show me that he saw my heart and wanted desperately to show me that he has forgiven me because even though my actions werent showing it YET, he knew my heart was lunging out for him. And as i started understanding that i was forgiven the guilt started falling away and the /hate/anger was subsiding and so the healing process began.....I am forever grateful of Jesus and i yearn to be like him.......
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Post by: JimB on June 16, 2016, 05:25:53 AM
Keith, it's great to you have join us in talking about the most precious thing to talk about. Our Savior is indeed one who desires to help all. As you discovered when we put our eyes on Christ His love shed abroad in our hearts will uproot the evil there!  Thank you for sharing with us your experience. It is good to hear the testimonies of others.
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Post by: Richard Myers on June 16, 2016, 05:52:46 AM
Amen!! Welcome, Keith, to our beholding and sharing group! Until we see our continual need of Jesus in order to do any good thing, we won't take the time to behold Him. We think we are just fine without Him and we don't understand the power of beholding His grace to transform us, to change us, to reconcile us with Him.

As we share our testimony of what we have seen and how it does really change us, others will begin to understand how it is that we are saved each day, moment by moment. The only way to be justified, to be converted daily, is to keep Jesus foremost in our mind. We cannot walk on water separated from Jesus. We cannot love our enemy when we are not abiding in Christ and He in us.  But, when we are fully surrendered to Jesus, then His promise is ours to claim. "God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it]."  Cor. 10:13. If we are not in a converted state, we cannot claim this promise. We must first be converted, then we have Christ. And if we have the Son of God, then we have life and the promise belongs to us.

Our daily work is to first behold Jesus. And, then by beholding Him, we are transformed into His character. "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord."

Again, dear brother, welcome to our little group. May spending a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of Christ give you daily that which you long for!
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Post by: Keithstrong on June 16, 2016, 06:07:28 AM
Thank you very much RM and JimB. That's why i am thankful for the group we have here. To read and talk is an amazing experience that i know will help me.
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on July 15, 2016, 07:04:03 AM
I am always blessed by coming to behold the loveliness of Jesus--He is so amazing!

By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 7:26;  2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love. 

Wow! Wow! We have a Brother who will ever help us in our daily life! We need Him continually, and as we abide in Him, we will find the experience of true transformation of character--all the fruits of the Spirit will be revealed in the life that accepts and lives by faith upon Jesus Christ, who is truly "Immanuel"! I love Jesus and I pray that those of you who read this forum and share here will also be brought nearer to the Saviour, and that you will find a joy in His presence that is a wonderful foretaste of heaven, for "heaven is a ceaseless approaching to God through Christ" {DA 331.3}, meaning that the relational joy of heaven begins here!
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Post by: Richard Myers on July 15, 2016, 07:09:26 AM
Amen, Pastor Sean!!

As we begin reading this most wonderful book again, we are so thankful to have such a revelation of Christ. We know that before long this will be seen to be the most important forum on our site. Many do not understand their continual need of Jesus in order to resist sin. They have not experienced the joy of being truly converted, and do not understand we are continually changed by continually surrendering to Christ. We are converted daily by grace. That grace surrounds us as thick as the air we breathe. But, we must absorb that grace. It is by beholding His grace that we are transformed in character. It is an intellectual and a spiritual truth that by beholding we become changed. The mind gradually adapts itself to what it is allowed to dwell upon. "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 2 Cor. 3:18.

The church remains in a Laodicean condition. When we understand, as a people, we need to be converted, we will then see our need of Jesus. Let that reformation begin with us as we spend a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of Christ.

     It would be well for us to spend a thoughtful hour each day in contemplation of the life of Christ. We should take it point by point, and let the imagination grasp each scene, especially the closing ones. As we thus dwell upon His great sacrifice for us, our confidence in Him will be more constant, our love will be quickened, and we shall be more deeply imbued with His spirit. If we would be saved at last, we must learn the lesson of penitence and humiliation at the foot of the cross. 
     As we associate together, we may be a blessing to one another. If we are Christ's, our sweetest thoughts will be of Him. We shall love to talk of Him; and as we speak to one another of His love, our hearts will be softened by divine influences. Beholding the beauty of His character, we shall be "changed into the same image from glory to glory." 2 Corinthians 3:18.  Desire of Ages, pg 83. 

Come and taste, and see if He is not the desire of all ages!
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on July 15, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
I cannot help but say, Amen! As we allow our minds to dwell upon Jesus, He is the one that changes us from glory to glory, from character to character.

Our part is small--yes, very small. But without it, we will not be saved. If we will not choose to daily behold Jesus, He will not change us without our consent, nor will He force us to behold Him. The Israelites being bitten by serpents had a very small part to play in their healing--they were to look at the uplifted serpent, representing Jesus, and they were to live. Look and live. There is a warfare to resist this experience of beholding--it is the daily battle with the flesh. When we surrender entirely to Jesus, our flesh remains to clamor for acknowledgement--but with Christ reigning in the new heart, we are made partakers of the divine nature. In Christ, we are enabled to do the deeds of omnipotence, because we are imbued with the power of the third person of the Godhead: the Holy Spirit.

As I reflect upon the Laodicean condition of the church, I am continually encouraged to look to Jesus as the only remedy, the only solution, and to invite others to do the same. As you step out in faith to take this journey in Desire of Ages through the life of Christ, let Christ work a miracle in your life: the choice is yours. You can surrender your heart to Christ, you can accept His divine grace, and let Him take your sin-polluted heart and give you a new heart: one that will bright forth the fruits of the Spirit without one missing.

Jesus loves you so much. Spend time with Him because it will bless His heart, and bring Him joy. And as you read of what it cost for Him to save you to even give you the opportunity to behold Him and be saved, let your heart be melted, wooed, and subdued by divine influences. Truly, Jesus is the sweetest name I know. And He wants you so much to experience the joy of His love and presence daily. In Him you will find the deepest heart longings satisfied in the way God intended: in relational intimacy with your loving Creator and Redeemer.
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Post by: JimB on October 10, 2016, 06:50:43 AM
Now sin has marred God's perfect work, yet that handwriting remains. Even now all created things declare the glory of His excellence. There is nothing, save the selfish heart of man, that lives unto itself. No bird that cleaves the air, no animal that moves upon the ground, but ministers to some other life. There is no leaf of the forest, or lowly blade of grass, but has its ministry. Every tree and shrub and leaf pours forth that element of life without which neither man nor animal could live; and man and animal, in turn, minister to the life of tree and shrub and leaf. The flowers breathe fragrance and unfold their beauty in blessing to the world. The sun sheds its light to gladden a thousand worlds. The ocean, itself the source of all our springs and fountains, receives the streams from every land, but takes to give. The mists ascending from its bosom fall in showers to water the earth, that it may bring forth and bud.

As someone who enjoys nature I've always found this paragraph telling. I had never considered what is wrote here before the first time I read this. Nature is created to serve other aspects of nature and this only make sense as Christ was the creator. But at the beginning of the paragraph is sharp contrast. Fallen human nature is compared to nature and it's called the only thing that serves itself. Is it no wonder that satan's way only leads to death and destruction. Evil will always implode on itself in the end. This is also why evolution is obviously wrong. Even the love displayed in "man's best friend" (dogs) is said to only be an evolutionary instinct to protect itself. How sad!

However, I love the title of this chapter "God with Us"! He is indeed with us and wants to dwell in hearts and have relationship with each of us that is unique and deep and personal enough that it's as though no one else exists. This sin ridden selfish world is the object of His special care. What a God we serve!
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Post by: Richard Myers on October 10, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Amen, Jim! What a loving God we behold each day!

We begin anew this morning reading from The Desire of Ages. Some may wonder why would we read from this Book every day. We could devote the time to reading the Bible or reading other inspired Books. But, we continue reading that which we read every day. Why? Why give up reading new material we have never before read? There are still articles in the Review and Sabbbath Herald I have never read. There are also manuscripts I have not read. Why not seek new information rather than reading that which I have been reading for over 30 years?

There is a truth Satan has been successful at keeping from professing Christians. We have discovered it and another truth. The two are so important that our very souls are dependent upon us walking in that light. The first truth is found in both this Book and in the Bible. There are three places in Scripture where I see it so profoundly revealed. But, we find it throughout the Bible. Here are the three places:

The first is one simple verse. "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 2 Corinthians 3:18. Let me shorten the verse a little so all may see it clearly. We all beholding the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image. What is the glory of the Lord? It is His character. What is His image? It is His character. Therefore, if we will behold His character, His Words, and deeds we shall be changed into His character of righteousness. In other words we shall become like Him in words and deeds. We may obtain the Living Water Christ gave to the woman at the well, and so may others. We may obtain the "wedding garment" which allows us into heaven. We may possess the righteousness of Christ. We may have it not only imputed to us, we may have it imparted to us. How? By beholding the character of our Lord which is His life.

We find this truth also in The Desire of Ages. " It would be well for us to spend a thoughtful hour each day in contemplation of the life of Christ. We should take it point by point, and let the imagination grasp each scene, especially the closing ones. As we thus dwell upon His great sacrifice for us, our confidence in Him will be more constant, our love will be quickened, and we shall be more deeply imbued with His spirit. If we would be saved at last, we must learn the lesson of penitence and humiliation at the foot of the cross. As we associate together, we may be a blessing to one another. If we are Christ's, our sweetest thoughts will be of Him. We shall love to talk of Him; and as we speak to one another of His love, our hearts will be softened by divine influences. Beholding the beauty of His character, we shall be 'changed into the same image from glory to glory.'"  Page 83.

A second place we find this truth in Scripture is in the conversation Jesus had with Nicodemus in the Garden. And, we find the second truth that is often hidden from man and many professing Christians. "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.... Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again....And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." John  3:3,5,6,7,14,15.

There is no eternal life unless a man be born again of the Spirit of God. When we come into the world we are born of the flesh which is fallen. It cannot enter heaven until there is a new birth wherein the Spirit of God enters into the heart of man. Then he becomes a partaker of God's divine nature, he is converted from a sinner to a saint. "   Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust." 2 Peter 1:4. There is an exception to this truth that we find in Scripture. A baby with a fallen nature can come into the world filled with the Spirit of God. It is dependent upon the parents being filled with the Spirit of God. "   For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy." 1 Corinthians 7:14.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh and must be born again of the Spirit. We must have the Spirit of God in order to have eternal life. How do we receive the Spirit of God? How are we converted? Jesus revealed 2 Corinthians 3:18 to Nicodemus but He sent him back to a lesson given to Israel in the Exodus from Egypt. "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."  The uplifted serpent was a representation of Jesus. He was made sin for us, that we might live We must look upon Jesus uplifted on the cross if we want to have life. It is by beholding Jesus that we are transformed in character. Let us "look and live."

The third place we find in the Bible a reference to beholding Jesus that we might have life is found in the Book of John. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." Verses 47-51. We must feed upon Jesus. We must drink His blood and eat His flesh if we want to have spiritual life. We eat bread if we want to have physical life, but we need to learn of Christ if we want spiritual life. Man does not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. It is a revelation of His character. The Word became flesh and dwelt among man.

This is why we spend a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of our Savior. This is why we are daily reading this most beautiful revelation of His character. Please come and see. Taste of the Goodness of our God. Join with us and receive the blessings God wants to pour out upon His children.
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on October 10, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Jesus is the center of attraction in all of Scripture, and the spotlight is surely upon Him in this chapter. God abides with us through Christ as we surrender our hearts entirely to Him. I love Jesus because He first loved me, and I pray that all of us will be spiritually blessed and enriched by coming into such intimacy with Him through a living faith that is charged with the life-giving current of love from having experienced what it means to behold the loveliness of Jesus. We need not only behold Him once, but have our minds continually stayed upon HIm. To look to Him once is not enough; our continual need of Jesus is great, and with promises like we find in today's reading, we are encouraged in our heavenward journey to the celestial city where you and I, through divine grace, can have a closer intimacy and relationship with God in Christ than even the angels can know! What a God we serve! What love! Hallelujah!

"By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isa. 9:6. The I Am is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Heb. 7:26; 2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love." {DA 25.2}

Thank You, Jesus! Thank You, Abba Father! And we can be so thankful that the Holy Spirit is even now moving upon our hearts to appreciate such wondrous truth--experientially!!
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Post by: Richard Myers on January 05, 2017, 07:03:55 AM
There are many temptations we face as we travel through life. One of the greatest I have discovered is the temptation to begin my day without having established a strong connection with Christ. It remains a well kept secret that the faith that enables us to be saved by grace comes from knowing the character of God. And, that faith must be fed daily. How do we obtain this "saving" faith? The Bible tell us how. "Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word." "The Word was made flesh."  The Word is a revelation of Jesus Christ. In other words, if we want to know God, we behold Jesus in the Word. He came to this world to reveal the character of God. He is "Immanuel, God with us."

It is by beholding the life of Christ that we obtain saving faith. It is by beholding Jesus that we are not just saved, but transformed in character. We are given another nature that can keep the fallen nature under control. "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust." 2 Peter  1:4. It is an intellectual and a Spiritual truth that by beholding we become changed. "We all...beholding....the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image...by the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:18.  The "glory of the Lord" is His character. Thus we may be changed into His "image" (character) by spending a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of Christ.
 
Yet, so many do not. It is our prayer that soon many will join with us in spending that thoughtful hour each day in beholding the loveliness of our Savior. The blessings are many and they are great!
 
As we begin again with the first chapter, we invite you to read along with us. We are just beginning a new year. If your promises to God have been as ropes of sand, then today is a good day to start anew. If you like to "hear" the truth, faith does come by hearing as well as by reading. Here is an audio narration of the first chapter God With Us (http://remnant-online.com/Audio/DA1.mp3).  And, here you will find narrations of most of the other chapters. Desire of Ages (http://remnant-online.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=681:the-desire-of-ages&catid=86:books&Itemid=149)    We will complete narrating the book soon.

In this first chapter, God With Us, we learn of something so very important. It was not just for our salvation that Christ suffered and died. No, there was a difficulty in heaven, and in the universe that needed to be resolved. Sin was not just a concern on Earth, but was something that God wanted eradicated from the whole universe. We are His treasure that will for eternity testify to His righteousness and the power of His grace to keep from sin. We do not half understand the privilege extended to us.

    Of His people God says, "They shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon His land. For how great is His goodness, and how great is His beauty!" Zechariah 9:16, 17. The exaltation of the redeemed will be an eternal testimony to God's mercy. "In the ages to come," He will "show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus." "To the intent that . . . unto the principalities and the powers in the heavenly places might be made known . . . the manifold wisdom of God, according to the eternal purpose which He purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord." Ephesians 2:7; 3:10, 11, R. V.
     Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified. The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union. 
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on January 05, 2017, 09:02:52 AM
Amen, Richard! I really appreciate your post this morning. It is so simple, direct, and Christ-centered. When we realize the privilege extended to us to daily behold the loveliness of Jesus, we will look forward to that time of the day the most of all! That has become my experience! I love to be with Jesus and let Him reveal more of Himself to me daily! He changes us as we behold Him and surrender entirely to Him! Praise the Lord!

  But turning from all lesser representations, we behold God in Jesus. Looking unto Jesus we see that it is the glory of our God to give. "I do nothing of Myself," said Christ; "the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father." "I seek not Mine own glory," but the glory of Him that sent Me. John 8:28; 6:57; 8:50; 7:18. In these words is set forth the great principle which is the law of life for the universe. All things Christ received from God, but He took to give. So in the heavenly courts, in His ministry for all created beings: through the beloved Son, the Father's life flows out to all; through the Son it returns, in praise and joyous service, a tide of love, to the great Source of all. And thus through Christ the circuit of beneficence is complete, representing the character of the great Giver, the law of life.

What an eternal privilege that we get to be part of this "circuit of beneficence"! When we link up with Christ by His Spirit, our lives become active agencies for the salvation of others! Please invite someone else to join us in our "beholding" of Jesus here daily, and in reading (or listening) to The Desire of Ages! Transformation continues constantly through continual communion and abiding in Him! Hallelujah!!!
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on April 02, 2017, 11:01:35 AM
What a wonderful beginning to another time through Desire of Ages! I am so so thankful for all Christ has done for me and has done for each of us. As I was walking in the O'Hare Airport today, I was struck with the thought that EVERY PERSON I SEE is a son or daughter of Adam--what would Adam think if he saw the way our race is today? Yet we have a second Adam, Jesus Christ, who not only sees it all, but was treated in the way we deserve--so we may be saved. This is MARVELOUS GRACE!

  Christ was treated as we deserve, that we might be treated as He deserves. He was condemned for our sins, in which He had no share, that we might be justified by His righteousness, in which we had no share. He suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which was His. "With His stripes we are healed." 

This is the power of the gospel. As we behold Christ's sufferings for us, we are set free from the power of sin, we realize its heinousness, and we choose to follow Jesus with the WHOLE HEART in SURRENDER OF ALL! He gave all, and now He invites us to become part of the circuit of beneficence to bless the entire world--and the universe! What a privilege grace affords us!
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Post by: Richard Myers on April 02, 2017, 12:04:02 PM
Amen, Pastor Sean!  What a chapter!!  I appreciate Isaiah so much. And, if the Jews who still reject Jesus as their Messiah will prayerfully study this chapter seeking truth, God will open their eyes to what (who) the sacrifices in their temple pointed to. It breaks my heart to contemplate what you shared this morning. "With His stripes we are healed."  He took my punishment while I was yet a sinner!! It is that which we call grace that transforms the character when we allow it into the heart. How evil is the fallen nature of man? All in nature takes to give, but not carnal man. The greatest miracle God can perform is to bring the carnal sons of Adam into such a holy relationship with Him, that it is closer than the angels enjoy.

    Now sin has marred God's perfect work, yet that handwriting remains. Even now all created things declare the glory of His excellence. There is nothing, save the selfish heart of man, that lives unto itself. No bird that cleaves the air, no animal that moves upon the ground, but ministers to some other life. There is no leaf of the forest, or lowly blade of grass, but has its ministry. Every tree and shrub and leaf pours forth that element of life without which neither man nor animal could live; and man and animal, in turn, minister to the life of tree and shrub and leaf. The flowers breathe fragrance and unfold their beauty in blessing to the world. The sun sheds its light to gladden a thousand worlds. The ocean, itself the source of all our springs and fountains, receives the streams from every land, but takes to give. The mists ascending from its bosom fall in showers to water the earth, that it may bring forth and bud.
     The angels of glory find their joy in giving,--giving love and tireless watchcare to souls that are fallen and unholy. Heavenly beings woo the hearts of men; they bring to this dark world light from the courts above; by gentle and patient ministry they move upon the human spirit, to bring the lost into a fellowship with Christ which is even closer than they themselves can know. 
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on June 28, 2017, 04:29:59 AM
The earth continues to grow darker in its misapprehension of God--but we see in Jesus the only source of light to brighten the gloomy shadows. Let us join together as we again read through this marvelous revelation of the loveliness of Jesus, and share this revelation with everyone we meet by exemplifying His life in our daily conduct and character, for it is by beholding that we become changed!

     The earth was dark through misapprehension of God. That the gloomy shadows might be lightened, that the world might be brought back to God, Satan's deceptive power was to be broken. This could not be done by force. The exercise of force is contrary to the principles of God's government; He desires only the service of love; and love cannot be commanded; it cannot be won by force or authority. Only by love is love awakened. To know God is to love Him; His character must be manifested in contrast to the character of Satan. This work only one Being in all the universe could do. Only He who knew the height and depth of the love of God could make it known. Upon the world's dark night the Sun of Righteousness must rise, "with healing in His wings." Malachi 4:2. 

Our only hope is in Jesus--for He knows the love of the Father and will pour that love into us by HIs Spirit when we fully surrender to Him! Such an experience is the "new birth" whereby the heart and mind are made pure, keeping the fallen flesh from manifesting itself, and must be an experience we have daily, for God desires to continually reveal more of His love to us in Christ dying for sinners. We may rejoice to "die daily" (1 Corinthians 15:31).
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Post by: JimB on June 28, 2017, 06:34:57 AM
I like the principle you pointed out pastor Sean. "Only by love is love awakened".  Which is why John penned the verse that says "we love Him because He first loved us." This reminds of something that old reformer wrote. 

"Take away the knowldege of Christ, and a Christian is the most sad and melancholy creature in the world: again, let Christ but manifest himself, and dart the beams of his light into their souls, it will make them kiss the stakes, sing in the flames, and shout in the pangs of death, as men that divide the spoil."


It is by love that we are constrained to obey the One altogether lovely. It is by love for the Savior that we produce good fruit. After all He first loved us!!
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Post by: Richard Myers on June 28, 2017, 08:37:35 AM
Amen and amen! It is by His stripes we are healed (converted). It is by grace we are saved (transformed in character).  I love this chapter. It not only points out our great need, but it reveals God's love. And, it reveals that it is not only us that  Christ suffered and died, but it was to place the universe on a safe foundation. Here we are given truth that few understand. What a responsibility rests with God's church!

    The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union.   

We and the entire universe must behold this great love to benefit from it. For eternity we shall all together celebrate God's love ever Sabbath in a special manner. What a Gift we have been given!! There is no greater sin than "unbelief". To know these things and then to sin is an amazing thing! How far removed we are from where God will soon have us....if we will spend a thoughtful hour a day contemplating this wonderful love revealed in the life of Christ.
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Post by: Dorine on June 28, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
What a blessing to read this chapter once again. Some of the thoughts brought out hit home much deeper than before. How humbling it is to read of the Father's love for His erring children; to allow His Son to come to this world that hated Him to the point of killing Him and be treated as we should be treated. How can humanity relate to such love.

"...in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us........forever to retain His human nature......He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren."

Deafening alarm bells should go off every time we are tempted to crucify Him again by indulging in our selfish desires. It's only by beholding HIm through reading and meditating on His life that we are put in a position for Him to soften and change our hearts.

I am so thankful for the promise that sin will never arise again. By His grace I will always be part of the group that is vindicating His name.
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Post by: JimB on June 28, 2017, 01:50:34 PM
By His grace I will always be part of the group that is vindicating His name.

Dorine there was a lot think about in your post but this stood out to me. What you said reminds me of Daniel.

Daniel 1:8 But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.

Like you Daniel made his choice before hand, before he was even tempted. He knew what his choice would be should he be tempted. We need to be prepared before storm hits not waiting until it hits. How many of us follow the Lord's prayer and pray that we aren't lead in temptation and to deliver us from evil?

Thanks for the reminder Dorine!
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on September 23, 2017, 03:46:28 AM
What an IMMENSE blessing it is to read from The Desire of Ages, Chapter 1, "God With Us." I love how the promises of the Bible and the unfolding of Jesus' loveliness draws my heart closer and closer to Him each time I commune with Him and enjoy spending "a thoughtful hour" upon His life and character. There is truly no limit to what Christ can do in our lives. We, by beholding Him, will be changed into His image. By surrendering our hearts fully to Him so He can purify them, we become partakers of the "divine nature" (2 Peter 1:4), and the result is that all of the fruits of the Spirit will be seen in our lives without one missing (see Galatians 5:22-23).

I was incredibly encouraged by this thought today:

   Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified. The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union.  {The Desire of Ages, page 26, paragraph 2}

I pray that God will keep me moment-by-moment in the union and communion of my soul with Christ, that I will not allow the pleasures of the world, life's cares, perplexities and sorrows, the faults of others, or my own faults and imperfections to cause me to look away--even for a moment--from Jesus. Without a constant surrender to Him and union with Him by faith, I am again at the mercy of my fallen nature which is always seeking opportunity to rear its ugly head. I need Jesus in me through His Holy Spirit to keep me from falling, and I trust His promises are stronger than all the doubt and unbelief that the flesh, the world, and the devil may want to oppress me with. I choose to behold Jesus and experience His life in me today, how about you?
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Post by: Richard Myers on September 24, 2017, 05:12:07 AM
Amen Pastor Sean! What a chapter! What a thought, that God can leave all of his creatures with free will and promise that none will ever sin again! And what a price was paid! Jesus is our Brother for eternity! He is bound by his humanity! What a thought.
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Post by: JimB on September 24, 2017, 07:48:41 AM
Amen pastor Sean & Richard. To think that there will be a time soon where one never has to worry about sin and rebellion rising up a second time is a comforting promise. Soon we will be in the Savior's presence learning the deeper things of salvation.

Hard to believe we are beginning this book all over again already. Looks like we will end it again about Christmas time. What a perfect time to start reading this book again. Anyway.... I saw this paragraph again this morning.

Now sin has marred God's perfect work, yet that handwriting remains. Even now all created things declare the glory of His excellence. There is nothing, save the selfish heart of man, that lives unto itself. No bird that cleaves the air, no animal that moves upon the ground, but ministers to some other life. There is no leaf of the forest, or lowly blade of grass, but has its ministry. Every tree and shrub and leaf pours forth that element of life without which neither man nor animal could live; and man and animal, in turn, minister to the life of tree and shrub and leaf. The flowers breathe fragrance and unfold their beauty in blessing to the world. The sun sheds its light to gladden a thousand worlds. The ocean, itself the source of all our springs and fountains, receives the streams from every land, but takes to give. The mists ascending from its bosom fall in showers to water the earth, that it may bring forth and bud.

It's wonderful to look and see how everything has it's ministry to something else besides itself. If it wasn't for sin I believe this world keep going as God didn't design us or this world to break down and die. What a sad state we are in as all creation groans under the weight of sin. But even yet now we can see the beauty that God has left us in this old world. The night sky with a million shinning stars all keeping order, a beautiful sunset that no artist can copy, the majestic mountains with their snow capped peaks, the ocean teaming with it's wild life with mysteries we don't yet understand. The fact that we can still see all this beauty after 6000 years of sin is a message of comfort to me that God will indeed redeem His creation back from the clutches of the evil one.  All of this reminds me of this passage from Christ Object Lessons.

The coin, though lying among dust and rubbish, is a piece of silver still. Its owner seeks it because it is of value. So every soul, however degraded by sin, is in God's sight accounted precious. As the coin bears the image and superscription of the reigning power, so man at his creation bore the image and superscription of God; and though now marred and dim through the influence of sin, the traces of this inscription remain upon every soul. God desires to recover that soul and to retrace upon it His own image in righteousness and holiness. {COL 194.3} 
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Post by: JimB on December 19, 2017, 05:51:27 AM
The angels of glory find their joy in giving,--giving love and tireless watchcare to souls that are fallen and unholy. Heavenly beings woo the hearts of men; they bring to this dark world light from the courts above; by gentle and patient ministry they move upon the human spirit, to bring the lost into a fellowship with Christ which is even closer than they themselves can know.
     But turning from all lesser representations, we behold God in Jesus. Looking unto Jesus we see that it is the glory of our God to give. "I do nothing of Myself," said Christ; "the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father." "I seek not Mine own glory," but the glory of Him that sent Me. John 8:28; 6:57; 8:50; 7:18. In these words is set forth the great principle which is the law of life for the universe. All things Christ received from God, but He took to give. So in the heavenly courts, in His ministry for all created beings: through the beloved Son, the Father's life flows out to all; through the Son it returns, in praise and joyous service, a tide of love, to the great Source of all. And thus through Christ the circuit of beneficence is complete, representing the character of the great Giver, the law of life.

And now we find ourselves back at the beginning, just before the birth of Christ and just in time for the Christmas season. Reminds me of the text that says that Christ came in the fullness of time. Now is a good time to join us and discover for yourself the character of God. You'll find out that like the angels that I bolded above God exists to give and once we are in Heaven we will forever study the mystery of redemption and God will forever demonstrate His love for His faithful children. Here on earth as we read about Him we will become more like Him and soon also find joy in giving to others.
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on December 19, 2017, 06:17:08 AM
Amen, Jim!! The joy of giving begins once we are truly converted, fully surrendered to Jesus, for God's character of love is selfless giving, and we come, as Psalm 34:8 says, to "taste and see" how blessed it is to give, for it is "more blessed to give than to receive" (Acts 20:35).

I love the first chapter of The Desire of Ages! I love how God is clearly revealed in infinite love to us! I love Jesus with all of my heart because by beholding Him I have been motivated to surrender fully to His infinite love, so He can cleanse my heart from all sin, pride, and evil and indwell me with His Spirit. What a miracle! I find love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, meekness, goodness, and faith fill my heart (all of the fruits of the Spirit, without one missing) as I continue to behold Him and remain fully surrendered to Him.

"But turning from all lesser representations, we behold God in Jesus. Looking unto Jesus we see that it is the glory of our God to give. "I do nothing of Myself," said Christ; 'the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father.' 'I seek not Mine own glory,' but the glory of Him that sent Me. John 8:28; 6:57; 8:50; 7:18. In these words is set forth the great principle which is the law of life for the universe. All things Christ received from God, but He took to give. So in the heavenly courts, in His ministry for all created beings: through the beloved Son, the Father's life flows out to all; through the Son it returns, in praise and joyous service, a tide of love, to the great Source of all. And thus through Christ the circuit of beneficence is complete, representing the character of the great Giver, the law of life."
 {The Desire of Ages, page 21, paragraph 2}

"In heaven itself this law was broken. Sin originated in self-seeking. Lucifer, the covering cherub, desired to be first in heaven. He sought to gain control of heavenly beings, to draw them away from their Creator, and to win their homage to himself. Therefore he misrepresented God, attributing to Him the desire for self-exaltation. With his own evil characteristics he sought to invest the loving Creator. Thus he deceived angels. Thus he deceived men. He led them to doubt the word of God, and to distrust His goodness. Because God is a God of justice and terrible majesty, Satan caused them to look upon Him as severe and unforgiving. Thus he drew men to join him in rebellion against God, and the night of woe settled down upon the world."  {The Desire of Ages, page 21, paragraph 3}

That night of woe had settled down upon Nicole Parker, and has upon all who have fallen into sin. I heard a testimony yesterday on http://journeysunscripted.com/ where Nicole Parker has available her testimony--when she was at Ouachita Hills, she was really struggling with having been sexually abused, but God allowed her to be surrounded with people who loved Jesus, and one of the teachers asked her, "Have you ever read The Desire of Ages?" Nicole realized she hadn't probably even opened it before--but when she came to this first chapter, she was so moved by the picture of God that she saw--of His tender love for her, and how through sin and redemption she would get to be closer to Jesus for all eternity, she was moved to tears as she read this beautiful picture of our God, and God began to heal her heart. What love!

Something else stood out to me this morning, and that was that Lucifer sought to "invest the loving Creator with his own evil characteristics," which reminded me of Ezekiel 28:18: "Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee."

In other words, the "traffick" that Lucifer began to pawn off about God in heaven was to seek to attribute to God the desire for self-exaltation and self-seeking, which is totally false (and is a result of Lucifer turning from God to self--the "mystery of iniquity"). God is the Creator, and His being "first" and "greatest" in the universe is because of who He is--He has always been, and always will be--"The I AM." "God is love" (1 John 4:16) is the essence of His character, and I am SO SO THANKFUL that He is winning this great controversy with love, as God invests us with His pure, holy characteristics as we behold Christ and surrender fully to Him!
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Post by: Richard Myers on December 20, 2017, 06:16:31 AM
Amen, Jim and Pastor Sean! What a truth is revealed in this most beautiful chapter! God is love. By beholding His character we will become transformed. It is by accepting His grace that we are saved.

As we came to the end of the reading we better understand why bad things happen to "good" people. Why is it necessary to allow Satan to live and sin to continue on? Well.....it need not have continued so long if we had done that which was entrusted to us. But, we find the answer as the chapter concluded. What a truth!

     Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified. The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union.

It is easy to gloss of what is revealed, but to all who love God and want to give glory to Him, prayerfully consider what is written. Why did Christ to this dark spot in the universe as a human? Why need He suffer and die? Why do we follow in His footsteps? Why do the last Christians on this earth suffer greatly after probation closes? The answer is clearly seen in this truth revealed to His people, the last church before Jesus returns.

God with us, what a truth! What a sacrifice!! What love!!!
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on March 16, 2018, 05:39:32 AM
I love Jesus and it is because He first loved me! He has revealed Himself to us that we might be drawn to God, to learn to love Him, and the more we know of Him, the more intense will be our happiness. I am so thankful that when we surrender our whole heart to Jesus, we experience the amazing gift of true conversion, and then the selfless love of God that is revealed in His law and exemplified in all of the fruits of the Spirit is wrought out in our experience continually!

May we ever remember that we are in an experience far greater in its scope than we can even now comprehend! What love! What grace!

 By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 7:26;  2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love.  {The Desire of Ages, page 25, paragraph 3}

Satan purposes that when you lose a loved one, or go through a bitter trial, that you will separate from God and murmur against Him. But when choosing to trust God, and surrender to Him who so loves us, the things that Satan intends to harm us or cause to separate us from God only bind us the closer to His heart because we begin to understand more fully experientially the sufferings that our Father endured in sending His Son to be born in Bethlehem to die upon Calvary. May we behold this love, and be continually changed from glory to glory!!!
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Post by: Dorine on March 16, 2018, 09:36:34 AM
Oh, yes Pastor Sean. Isn't this the most wonderful chapter revealing the depths of love that no human can comprehend. It will even be the study of the angels through out all eternity.

I love new beginnings. Today is a new beginning for me in another journey into the life of our dearest friend and Saviour. It has taken me a long time to get through this chapter today because I had to pause in so many places and just ponder and pray about what it was that God was eager for me to understand.

It was all so beautiful. But the following impressed me with new revelations of God's love.

"In the beginning, God was revealed in all the works of creation. It was Christ that spread the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth. It was His hand that hung the worlds in space, and fashioned the flowers of the field. "His strength setteth fast the mountains." "The sea is His, and He made it." Psalm 65:6; 95:5. It was He that filled the earth with beauty, and the air with song. And upon all things in earth, and air, and sky, He wrote the message of the Father's love."

....."Now sin has marred God's perfect work, yet that handwriting remains. Even now all created things declare the glory of His excellence. There is nothing, save the selfish heart of man, that lives unto itself. No bird that cleaves the air, no animal that moves upon the ground, but ministers to some other life. There is no leaf of the forest, or lowly blade of grass, but has its ministry. Every tree and shrub and leaf pours forth that element of life without which neither man nor animal could live; and man and animal, in turn, minister to the life of tree and shrub and leaf. The flowers breathe fragrance and unfold their beauty in blessing to the world. The sun sheds its light to gladden a thousand worlds. The ocean, itself the source of all our springs and fountains, receives the streams from every land, but takes to give. The mists ascending from its bosom fall in showers to water the earth, that it may bring forth and bud."

"But turning from all lesser representations, we behold God in Jesus. Looking unto Jesus we see that it is the glory of our God to give. "I do nothing of Myself," said Christ; "the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father." "I seek not Mine own glory," but the glory of Him that sent Me. John 8:28; 6:57; 8:50; 7:18. In these words is set forth the great principle which is the law of life for the universe. All things Christ received from God, but He took to give. So in the heavenly courts, in His ministry for all created beings: through the beloved Son, the Father's life flows out to all; through the Son it returns, in praise and joyous service, a tide of love, to the great Source of all. And thus through Christ the circuit of beneficence is complete, representing the character of the great Giver, the law of life."

Amen!
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Post by: Richard Myers on April 22, 2018, 09:28:43 AM
Amen! These most wonderful truths are presented in the most beautiful writing I've ever read. We are truly blessed to have inspired truth presented in such a beautiful manner! One can never tire reading this inspired revelation of the life and teachings of Christ.
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on June 11, 2018, 02:33:49 AM
God has wrought so many miracles in my life and I just want to praise Him with my whole heart! His grace has saved me, and I am so thankful for how seeds of truth, planted in our lives when we are hurting and broken, can bring deep healing. In the summer of 2008 I was doing door-to-door missionary work in Southern California. At the time, I was a student at Pacific Union College, and had only been a Seventh-day Adventist since March 3, 2007. I have a distinct memory of riding in one of the vans with the group of young people doing ministry together, and I read the following amazing quote that brought tears to my eyes:

 "The work of redemption will be complete. In the place where sin abounded, God's grace much more abounds. The earth itself, the very field that Satan claims as his, is to be not only ransomed but exalted. Our little world, under the curse of sin the one dark blot in His glorious creation, will be honored above all other worlds in the universe of God. Here, where the Son of God tabernacled in humanity; where the King of glory lived and suffered and died,--here, when He shall make all things new, the tabernacle of God shall be with men, 'and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God.' And through endless ages as the redeemed walk in the light of the Lord, they will praise Him for His unspeakable Gift,--Immanuel, 'God with us.'" {The Desire of Ages, page 26, paragraph 3}

At the time I cannot say that I clearly understood the gospel as I do today, but I loved Jesus and found joy in communion with Him. I wanted to follow Him. I was still dealing with depression and the effects of bipolar disorder to some extent in 2008. And having just become a Seventh-day Adventist the year prior, I responded to the Holy Spirit's call upon my heart to get re-baptized July 12, 2008 because I realized that I had profaned God's name calling myself a Seventh-day Adventist Christian when  just months prior I had been living like the world--attending the theatre, listening to rock music, and breaking God's holy Sabbath. But this quote brought incredible joy to my heart. It told me deep down, "It's worth it." All the sufferings and trials we go through are only allowed by a God of infinite love who promises to work all things together for our good. Looking back, I praise God for that first summer of ministry in sharing books door-to-door and praying with people, finding Bible studies, and sharing the loveliness of Jesus. One young man in particular who was one of our leaders, Yoane, made a deep impression on me, as I saw in him an earnestness and zeal for Jesus that made the service of Christ appear attractive, as it really is. He shared with me some material about righteousness by faith, and I remember having morning devotions that summer that were really changing my heart. Often I would weep as I realized how much Jesus loved me and how sinful I was by nature. But the more sinful I saw myself, the more encouraged I was that Jesus came to save me! God's call on my life to be a pastor October 25, 2007, and the ensuing years of school, trials, and ministry experience brought me to the point in 2011 where God fully healed me from bipolar using the NEWSTART (Nutrition, Exercise, Water, Sunshine, Temperance, Air, Rest, Trust in God's Power) principles of healing. Now having served as a pastor in the Michigan Conference for over three years, all I have to say is that God is so gracious. I could not be happier. Today we start setting up for Michigan's Camp Meeting in Cedar Lake, Michigan, and I just love how God brings us full circle. About 10 years ago I read the quote from The Desire of Ages for the first time, and I now praise Him even more as I see ever-increasing evidence that God's grace is powerful enough to save a sinner like me by His shed blood on Calvary and transform me to have a new heart and a new mind where Jesus dwells by His Spirit, imbuing me with all of the fruits of the Spirit so that not one is missing. God loves us, and the more we behold that love (grace), the more we are changed! Will you join me in daily spending a "thoughtful hour" beholding Jesus, our Immanuel?
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Post by: Richard Myers on June 11, 2018, 10:16:59 PM
Amen Pastor Sean. Grace is more than a word, it is the power of redeeming love that transforms sinners into saints. Why would anyone object to saying so? Because they have been taught otherwise. Saints lived long ago, but not in our day.   :( Sadly they know not the power of grace  received into the heart.

Jesus said "I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart." Psalm 40:8. As He went about doing good, and healing all who were afflicted by Satan, He made plain to men the character of God's law and the nature of His service. His life testifies that it is possible for us also to obey the law of God.
     By His humanity, Christ touched humanity; by His divinity, He lays hold upon the throne of God. As the Son of man, He gave us an example of obedience; as the Son of God, He gives us power to obey. It was Christ who from the bush on Mount Horeb spoke to Moses saying, "I AM THAT I AM. . . . Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." Exodus 3:14. This was the pledge of Israel's deliverance. So when He came "in the likeness of men," He declared Himself the I AM. The Child of Bethlehem, the meek and lowly Saviour, is God "manifest in the flesh." 1 Timothy 3:16. And to us He says: "I AM the Good Shepherd." "I AM the living Bread." "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life." "All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth." John 10:11; 6:51; 14:6; Matthew 28:18. I AM the assurance of every promise. I AM; be not afraid. "God with us" is the surety of our deliverance from sin, the assurance of our power to obey the law of heaven. 


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Post by: JimB on September 06, 2018, 05:50:30 AM
 By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,--God's thought made audible. In His prayer for His disciples He says, "I have declared unto them Thy name,"--"merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,"--"that the love wherewith Thou hast loved Me may be in them, and I in them." But not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto.

What a thought... God's thought made audible. This ought to help some who have the tendency to see two different attitudes towards sinners between Jesus and the Father. Both love us so much they are willing to sacrifice and suffer for us. And another wonderful thought that it's the cross of Christ that keeps the universe safe forever after this is all over. It will be our study for the endless ages... how wide and deep must His love for us be! We see through a glass darkly now but someday soon we will see much clearer how much Christ loves us.
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Post by: Richard Myers on September 06, 2018, 06:21:03 AM
Amen, Jim!  What important truths are presented here! It is such a blessing to begin again  in this wonderful revelation of the love of our God! This opening chapter is so beautiful  and moving. I too was impressed with what you have shared this morning. "Not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe."

One of the most profound truths has been opened to our minds here. What does this mean, "the lesson book of the universe"? It answers one of the most important questions being asked by many who wonder how an omnipotent God can allow bad things to happen to "good" people if He is  so loving. Since they cannot reconcile the two truth, they  do not believe them to be true. Yet, God has given to His children the answer here in this first chapter. We  are without excuse for not telling the world why  bad things happen  to "good" people.

    Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. "In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren." Hebrews 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us. Therefore Jesus was "in all points tempted like as we are." Hebrews 4:15. He endured every trial to which we are subject. And He exercised in His own behalf no power that is not freely offered to us. As man, He met temptation, and overcame in the strength given Him from God. He says, "I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart." Psalm 40:8. As He went about doing good, and healing all who were afflicted by Satan, He made plain to men the character of God's law and the nature of His service. His life testifies that it is possible for us also to obey the law of God. 

How can professing Christians believe we can be saved when  we continue to sin. This confirms Satan's lie. Much of Christianity denies the power of grace to transform sinners into saints. But, this does not stop with  us here on Earth.  No, God allows Satan to live and "good" people to be hurt that the whole universe might learn  the lesson of God's great love and the power of grace to keep all from ever sinning again. God has promised sin  shall  be no more when  this  "great controversy" between Christ and Satan has ended. "Affliction shall not arise a second time."

     Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified. The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union.
     The work of redemption will be complete. In the place where sin abounded, God's grace much more abounds. The earth itself, the very field that Satan claims as his, is to be not only ransomed but exalted. Our little world, under the curse of sin the one dark blot in His glorious creation, will be honored above all other worlds in the universe of God. Here, where the Son of God tabernacled in humanity; where the King of glory lived and suffered and died,--here, when He shall make all things new, the tabernacle of God shall be with men, "and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God."

Surrounded by apostasy we do not half understand the privilege with is offered to us! God is   preparing a people to fulfill this  promise. Shall we continue to delay this end of suffering,  sin, and death? Or shall   we turn  to Christ with the whole heart and allow  God to write His law upon our hearts today? Let us praise Him for His unspeakable Gift, Immanuel, "God with us."



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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on September 06, 2018, 07:39:44 AM
Amen, Jim and Richard!

As we behold the exceedingly powerful loveliness of our God as revealed in Christ, the Holy Spirit is moving upon us to appreciate and assimilate in mind and character these thoughts so that we become His final revelation of grace to a world that is soon to perish. Christ's method of coming close to us is the method we too will employ when we are actuated by the Holy Spirit. We will draw near to sorrowful, tempted souls. We will share what the grace of God has done for us, and as a result, God will have a people who through the time of unparalleled apostasy in earth's closing scenes establish beyond controversy that God's grace is strong enough to cleanse the most profligate sinner into a redeemed saint, and keep them from falling during a time when there is no longer an intercessor in the sanctuary in heaven.

 "Of His people God says, 'They shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon His land. For how great is His goodness, and how great is His beauty!' Zech. 9:16, 17. The exaltation of the redeemed will be an eternal testimony to God's mercy. 'In the ages to come,' He will 'show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.' 'To the intent that . . . unto the principalities and the powers in the heavenly places might be made known . . . the manifold wisdom of God, according to the eternal purpose which He purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord.' Eph. 2:7; 3:10, 11, R. V." {The Desire of Ages, page 26, paragraph 1}

Last night at Prayer Meeting where we were studying Revelation 16, I read a statement from The Great Controversy that reveals the character experience of the 144,000--for they pass through an experience unlike any other group:

"Upon the crystal sea before the throne, that sea of glass as it were mingled with fire,--so resplendent is it with the glory of God,--are gathered the company that have 'gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name.' With the Lamb upon Mount Zion, 'having the harps of God,' they stand, the hundred and forty and four thousand that were redeemed from among men; and there is heard, as the sound of many waters, and as the sound of a great thunder, 'the voice of harpers harping with their harps.' And they sing 'a new song' before the throne, a song which no man can learn save the hundred and forty and four thousand. It is the song of Moses and the Lamb--a song of deliverance. None but the hundred and forty-four thousand can learn that song; for it is the song of their experience--an experience such as no other company have ever had. 'These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth.' These, having been translated from the earth, from among the living, are counted as 'the first fruits unto God and to the Lamb.' Revelation 15:2, 3; 14:1-5. 'These are they which came out of great tribulation;' they have passed through the time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation; they have endured the anguish of the time of Jacob's trouble; they have stood without an intercessor through the final outpouring of God's judgments. But they have been delivered, for they have 'washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.' 'In their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault' before God. 'Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple: and He that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.' They have seen the earth wasted with famine and pestilence, the sun having power to scorch men with great heat, and they themselves have endured suffering, hunger, and thirst. But 'they shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.' Revelation 7:14-17." {The Great Controversy, page 648, paragraph 3}

The transformation of character wrought in the 144,000 teach an important lesson that has been true in the gospel from the very first promise given in Genesis 3:15 of a Savior who can implant enmity in the heart against sin when the soul surrenders fully to Christ. God has ever had perfect saints come into heaven (Enoch, Elijah, and Moses are all without sin in heaven, because while on earth they repented and were transformed in mind and character). But God needs more than that. God needs a final unmistakable mature manifestation of His grace in contrast to the maturation of the character of Satan in those who are in rebellion against God. What is the timing? The close of the world's probation, when the seven last plagues are poured out and the 144,000 are standing by faith through the time of Jacob's trouble. They have become settled into the truth intellectually and spiritually so that they cannot be moved. They have learned the lesson from Moses' sin that there is no good thing in them by nature and that in order to any good thing they must have a continual connection with Jesus. This has been their experience, and going through the most trying time of earth's history, this corporate group vindicate God's name as an outflow of the victory Christ wrought on Calvary, as they glorify God before the onlooking universe and refute every charge Satan and his followers have leveled against God's character. The 144,000 are not the only ones saved--but they are the ones who live through the time of trouble and are translated. They, like Noah, will see others come to repentance before the forecasted event of deluge, but those have passed to rest before the final outpouring of God's wrath against sin in the seven last plagues. Why talk about this here? Because it is in the light of the cross of Christ that we see what God already visited upon Jesus in order to save us. Christ was treated as we deserve (which is God's wrath against sin) so we could be treated as He deserves (as kings and priests to God). May we, whether we are translated as one of the 144,000, or martyred for our faith in these closing moments of earth, or pass to rest before Jesus comes--may we all realize the source and power for doing any good thing comes from Jesus Christ and Him abiding in the soul, which always produces in us the ineffaceable characteristics of the divine nature--all of the fruits of the Spirit in the life without one missing as we live up to all the light we know of God's holy law. Hallelujah!!!!
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Post by: Richard Myers on November 25, 2018, 09:16:50 AM
There are many who read along with us. If you have questions or would like to share your thoughts with us, email administrator@remnant-online.com     

The truths revealed are amazing, even to us who have been studying them for so very many years. What a God we serve!!
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on December 02, 2018, 03:25:59 AM
Is someone with you? Yes--He is the I AM. The eternally self-existent One, Jesus Christ, has come to our dark world to be our Brother, has ascended to heaven to prepare a place for us, and is inviting us today to spend a "thoughtful hour" contemplating His life (especially the closing scenes) so we may become like Him in mind and character. The incredible reality of the gospel is the infinite love of God for us (His grace) that transforms degenerate rebellious sinners into repentant, happy, obedient saints who manifest His attributes--all of the fruits of the Spirit without one missing while affectionately obeying all of the light of His law that we have learned of Him! What marvelous reasons we have to be praising God ALL THE TIME!!!

"By His humanity, Christ touched humanity; by His divinity, He lays hold upon the throne of God. As the Son of man, He gave us an example of obedience; as the Son of God, He gives us power to obey. It was Christ who from the bush on Mount Horeb spoke to Moses saying, 'I AM THAT I AM. . . . Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.' Exodus 3:14. This was the pledge of Israel's deliverance. So when He came 'in the likeness of men,' He declared Himself the I AM. The Child of Bethlehem, the meek and lowly Saviour, is God 'manifest in the flesh.' 1 Timothy 3:16. And to us He says: 'I AM the Good Shepherd.' 'I AM the living Bread.' 'I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life.' 'All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth.' John 10:11; 6:51; 14:6; Matthew 28:18. I AM the assurance of every promise. I AM; be not afraid. 'God with us' is the surety of our deliverance from sin, the assurance of our power to obey the law of heaven." {The Desire of Ages, page 24, paragraph 3}

The fact that "I AM THAT I AM" was the pledge of Israel's deliverance speaks to me on a very personal level--as it was on October 25, 2007 that God called me to be a pastor. The call was simple and direct. "I'm calling you to be a pastor" came the inaudible but clear voice into my thoughts while I was standing on the third floor of Granger Hall at Pacific Union College in Angwin, California at about 6pm. "Who are you?" I asked. Then He said, "I AM THAT I AM." At that name I immediately surrendered my life to God's call and removed by shoes. God does not change. Yet at the time, I had only been a Seventh-day Adventist Christian for 7 months and 22 days, and I still had much to learn (and a lot to unlearn). Yet God faithfully would work upon my heart and character to remove what was not from Him and to implant His truth and principles. As God says to us "I AM," He is promising to be with us in the entire journey it takes for us to be able to serve with His character and principles. Yesterday I reflected on the fact that I have now been a pastor in the Michigan Conference for 3 1/2 years (June 1, 2015-December 1, 2015). As I see how God continues to teach me and give me a deeper and deeper hunger and thirst for the righteousness of Christ and the experiential transformation wrought by beholding His loveliness of character, I am encouraged to know He will do even greater works than we can imagine in each of our lives as we yield unreservedly to Him moment-by-moment!

May you find incredible joy in letting Jesus be the Author and Finisher of your life and ministry experience is my prayer!
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Post by: Dorine on December 02, 2018, 05:20:21 AM
Amen Pastor Sean. What an inspiring testimony of how God called you to the ministry. I praise God for your faithfulness to Him and for blessing us each morning with God given thoughts from "The Desire of Ages".
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Post by: JimB on December 02, 2018, 06:56:09 AM
Amen pastor Sean! I appreciate your testimony this morning. It's good for us to read these things and be encouraged. Most of us may not be called to be a pastor but we are surely called to spread the Word also!

"His name shall be called Immanuel, . . . God with us." "The light of the knowledge of the glory of God" is seen "in the face of Jesus Christ." From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; He was "the image of God," the image of His greatness and majesty, "the outshining of His glory." It was to manifes.t this glory that He came to our world. To this sin-darkened earth He came to reveal the light of God's love,--to be "God with us." Therefore it was prophesied of Him, "His name shall be called Immanuel."

God with us!! What a thought and when this is all over it will again be the same way.  I guess my thoughts are spilling over from yesterday but i can't help but think of this verse when I read this, this morning.

Rev 21:3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 
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Post by: Richard Myers on December 02, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
What a joy to begin again reading this most wonderful revelation of Gop's grace to a world which has chosen to reject His love. But, not all are blind to His character of mercy and justice. Where do we see His love? It is written throughout nature, but most pointedly it is revealed in the birth, life, suffering, and death of God's dear Son, Jesus Christ. What does God see in this dark spot in the universe that He would risk losing His innocent Son? He sees what we may become if we will learn of Him. In order that man might know Him, God set up His tabernacle  in the midst of our human encampment.

He pitched His tent by the side of the tents of men, that He might dwell among us, and make us familiar with His divine character and life. "The Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us (and we beheld His glory, glory as of the Only Begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth." John 1:14, R. V., margin.   Since Jesus came to dwell with us, we know that God is acquainted with our trials, and sympathizes with our griefs. Every son and daughter of Adam may understand that our Creator is the friend of sinners. For in every doctrine of grace, every promise of joy, every deed of love, every divine attraction presented in the Saviour's life on earth, we see
 "God with us."

The character of God and His sacred oracles have been entrusted to His church. We have an understanding of who He is, of His great love and His justice. Yet, to those whom great light has come, blindness has fallen. Satan has done all he can to obscure God's character and the plan of salvation.

    Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. "In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren." Hebrews 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us.

Have we believed Satan's lie? When we sin, we support His lie that it is impossible for man to obey His law. Let us turn to Christ and repent of our sins that we might be His witnesses that His law is perfect and man through Christ can keep His commandments. We can love others as He loves us. If we would spend a thoughtful hour each day contemplating the life of Christ, we would be empowered through the Holy Spirit to love God and our neighbor. What a thought! That God sent His Son to save a sinner such a me! What a God we serve!!
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Post by: Beacon on January 30, 2019, 09:23:35 PM
"Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified.The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. ]Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. ]Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union."

When I take the time to contemplate the thoughts in these two paragraphs I can only think of the words....Amazing Grace how sweet the sound...That Saved a Wretch like me. I'm sure that as more is revealed and understood  by us as eternity rolls our love for Jesus will only grew deeper.

 "The work of redemption will be complete. In the place where sin abounded, God's grace much more abounds. The earth itself, the very field that Satan claims as his, is to be not only ransomed but exalted. Our little world, under the curse of sin the one dark blot in His glorious creation, will be honored above all other worlds in the universe of God. Here, where the Son of God tabernacled in humanity; where the King of glory lived and suffered and died,--here, when He shall make all things new, the tabernacle of God shall be with men, "and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God." And through endless ages as the redeemed walk in the light of the Lord, they will praise Him for His unspeakable Gift,-- Immanuel, "God with us."

THANK YOU JESUS ---- THANK YOU JESUS ---- THANK YOU JESUS
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on February 27, 2019, 03:26:47 AM
God has something amazing to share with us--it is His character. His glory, His love, and the fullness of His divinity He longs to reveal to us! But we are sinful and cannot look upon God in His glory without being destroyed. So God did something so genius--He sent His Son into this world as a human being, and through Jesus Christ we are able to come into union and communion with the infinite who is invisible! What incredible condescension that the Creator would stoop to become one of His creatures! Jesus is forever our Brother, and we are of eternal value to God because we are part of a royal family by adoption! As by a living-faith surrender we see the loveliness of Jesus and yield the whole heart to this most incredible manifestation of grace, our hearts and minds are transformed and the inevitable result is that we are converted into His image to reveal in our finite sphere the infinite attributes of His divine nature! The divine nature is manifested in all of the fruits of the Spirit without one missing! We will reveal in Him abiding in us true love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance! (See Galatians 5:22-23.) What an incredible joy we get to have in Jesus today!!!!

"Nearly two thousand years ago, a voice of mysterious import was heard in heaven, from the throne of God, 'Lo, I come.' 'Sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not, but a body hast Thou prepared Me. . . . Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me,) to do Thy will, O God.' Hebrews 10:5-7. In these words is announced the fulfillment of the purpose that had been hidden from eternal ages. Christ was about to visit our world, and to become incarnate. He says, 'A body hast Thou prepared Me.' Had He appeared with the glory that was His with the Father before the world was, we could not have endured the light of His presence. That we might behold it and not be destroyed, the manifestation of His glory was shrouded. His divinity was veiled with humanity,--the invisible glory in the visible human form." {The Desire of Ages, page 23, paragraph 1}

That last sentence really touched me this morning--and to think that as we meditate upon Jesus that His glory is invisible, and that such glory He is reproducing in our characters from glory to glory, from character to character!!!
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Post by: Dorine on February 27, 2019, 07:40:09 AM
........"Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto."

This revelation starts here and now. If this truth does not burn within our hearts now we would never be happy in heaven because our characters will not be miraculously changed just in time to enter heaven. To know Christ is to love Him. If we can't find time to spend with Jesus now why would we desire to spend eternity with Him? I'm looking forward to another walk with Jesus. He will transform our lives. As we behold Him we will be changed into His image. What an awe-inspiring realization.
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Post by: Richard Myers on February 27, 2019, 08:45:02 AM
"Through Christ's redeeming work the government of God stands justified.The Omnipotent One is made known as the God of love. Satan's charges are refuted, and his character unveiled. ]Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. ]Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union."

When I take the time to contemplate the thoughts in these two paragraphs I can only think of the words....Amazing Grace how sweet the sound...That Saved a Wretch like me. I'm sure that as more is revealed and understood  by us as eternity rolls our love for Jesus will only grew deeper.

 "The work of redemption will be complete. In the place where sin abounded, God's grace much more abounds. The earth itself, the very field that Satan claims as his, is to be not only ransomed but exalted. Our little world, under the curse of sin the one dark blot in His glorious creation, will be honored above all other worlds in the universe of God. Here, where the Son of God tabernacled in humanity; where the King of glory lived and suffered and died,--here, when He shall make all things new, the tabernacle of God shall be with men, "and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God." And through endless ages as the redeemed walk in the light of the Lord, they will praise Him for His unspeakable Gift,-- Immanuel, "God with us."

THANK YOU JESUS ---- THANK YOU JESUS ---- THANK YOU JESUS

Amen, Brother Beacon! What amazing love!! The truth revealed in today's opening chapter has so much to consider that where can we begin? I was impressed with what you have shared. It led me to think upon the fact that the godhead is eternal and has no beginning. It is past our ability to comprehend. Is this an excuse to deny God? What an absurd thought. When one takes the time to understand what is written in Scripture, when one considers the glories revealed in heaven and in Earth, there is no excuse for not knowing there is a loving and omnipotent God. Not only has His power been revealed in the things He has created, but His wisdom is past our understanding. And, His love is unfathomable.

God has promised that sin shall come to its end when this horrible but lovely demonstration is complete. How can this be? God will not remove His creatures freedom to choose. Free will is ours for eternity. Then how can God say this?"Rebellion can never again arise. Sin can never again enter the universe. ]Through eternal ages all are secure from apostasy. By love's self-sacrifice, the inhabitants of earth and heaven are bound to their Creator in bonds of indissoluble union."
What wisdom!! God's love and justice is being revealed to the universe. That God would allow His innocent Son to come to this dark spot in the universe a helpless babe subject to the weakness of humanity, to fight the battle of life as each or us must fight it, at the risk of failure and eternal loss, is evidence which causes all who understand to cry out "wonder O heavnes and be astonished O Earth, herein is love!" And it is the great blessing that we on this wicked planet are involved. It is this fallen race that are offered homes here when it is made the center of the universe. It it here where the Son of God has tabernacled in humanity that we might know God's wonderful character of love and justice!!

What a thought!!! Please join with us in not only beholding this love daily, but in sharing what God has opened to you. email administrator@remnant-online.com
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on May 25, 2019, 03:38:43 AM
As we begin a beautiful journey again to behold the loveliness of Jesus is contemplation of His life and character in The Desire of Ages, I am so thankful Christ condescends to reach us where we are, to awaken love in our hearts (for only by love is love awakened), that we may become partakers of His grace and receive a new nature! As we surrender fully to Christ, He renews our hearts and minds and gives us an increased capacity for knowing and loving Him! When we live by faith on Him as a personal Savior, all of the fruits of the Spirit will be revealed in our lives--not one will be missing. I am so thankful for Jesus this Sabbath morning!!

"Nearly two thousand years ago, a voice of mysterious import was heard in heaven, from the throne of God, 'Lo, I come.' 'Sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not, but a body hast Thou prepared Me. . . . Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me,) to do Thy will, O God.' Hebrews 10:5-7. In these words is announced the fulfillment of the purpose that had been hidden from eternal ages. Christ was about to visit our world, and to become incarnate. He says, 'A body hast Thou prepared Me.' Had He appeared with the glory that was His with the Father before the world was, we could not have endured the light of His presence. That we might behold it and not be destroyed, the manifestation of His glory was shrouded. His divinity was veiled with humanity,--the invisible glory in the visible human form." {The Desire of Ages, page 23, paragraph 1}

Jesus' method is the only true one that works in reaching people. We also are to go forth to mingle with people and to show sympathy for them with Christ in our hearts, that we may minister to them, win their confidence, and then do as Christ did by inviting them to follow Him. What a joy we can have in sharing the love that has so ministered to our hearts! 
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Post by: Richard Myers on May 25, 2019, 06:35:54 AM
Amen Pastor Sean!  What a wonderful revelation of our God that we read in this opening chapter! God's character has been misrepresented to this world, the unfallen worlds, and the angels of which one third rejected God's love and are now working with Satan in an attempt to turn the truth into a lie.

It is a most amazing truth that the Son of God took upon Himself our fallen nature and came to this sin darkened world a helpless babe subject to the weakness of humanity to fight the battle of life as we must fight it at the risk of failure and eternal loss. Why? Why would God allow this? In today's reading we find that our God is a God of unsurpassed love! And, we read that it is only the selfish heart of man of those that God created on this Earth that lives unto itself. All else take to give, just as do the heavenly angels that come to this Earth to minister to sinners.

"Satan represents God's law of love as a law of selfishness. He declares that it is impossible for us to obey its precepts. The fall of our first parents, with all the woe that has resulted, he charges upon the Creator, leading men to look upon God as the author of sin, and suffering, and death. Jesus was to unveil this deception. As one of us He was to give an example of obedience. For this He took upon Himself our nature, and passed through our experiences. 'In all things it behooved Him to be made like unto His brethren.' Heb. 2:17. If we had to bear anything which Jesus did not endure, then upon this point Satan would represent the power of God as insufficient for us. Therefore Jesus was 'in all points tempted like as we are.' Heb. 4:15. He endured every trial to which we are subject. And He exercised in His own behalf no power that is not freely offered to us. As man, He met temptation, and overcame in the strength given Him from God. He says, 'I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart.' Ps. 40:8. As He went about doing good, and healing all who were afflicted by Satan, He made plain to men the character of God's law and the nature of His service. His life testifies that it is possible for us also to obey the law of God."

If this was studied and understood by the church, we would see revival and reformation today taking place. It is the power of grace to enable repentant sinners to keep the law of God. "Here are they that keep the commandments of God." It is the character of God when beheld that transforms the character of sinful man. This is that which we are given a period of time to learn and to do. It is the goodness of God that leads to repentance. It would be good if we would spend a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of Christ. By beholding His loveliness we would be converted daily. Join with us in not only beholding His love, but by sharing what it is that the Holy Spirit is revealing to you as you see our magnificent God and the love whereby we are saved. If you are not yet registered, send an email to administrator@remnant-online.com and you too can encourage others that God is speaking to your heart these beautiful truths.
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Post by: Dorine on May 25, 2019, 07:35:31 AM
"Since Jesus came to dwell with us, we know that God is acquainted with our trials, and sympathizes with our griefs. Every son and daughter of Adam may understand that our Creator is the friend of sinners. For in every doctrine of grace, every promise of joy, every deed of love, every divine attraction presented in the Saviour's life on earth, we see "God with us."
Every sentence, every paragraph of this chapter is filled with assurance of God's love for you and me. Even the angels marvel at the depth of God's mercy and grace. All He asks in return is a life committed and surrendered to Him on a moment to moment basis. And when we wander and take our eyes off of Jesus He doesn't abandon us. Instead He stands at our hearts door knocking, waiting for us to invite Him in once more. When we daily lift Jesus up and keep Him foremost in our minds He transforms our lives. Thank you Jesus for Your matchless love.
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Post by: Beacon on May 25, 2019, 02:02:23 PM
"By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. "

It seems impossible to describe in human language the immense sacrifice that God made in order for the redemption of the world to be made possible.  No wonder we are told that we should spend at least one thoughtful hour a day in contemplation of what Heaven has done to provide a way of escape from this awful mess that began when Adam and Eve disobeyed our God of Love.  If we will take this time to meditate and pray, we are promised that by the power of the Holy Spirit we can become changed into the likeness of our Saviour and be ready to meet Him when He comes again to take His faithful children home to place where we will never again be faced with evil. Please join with us as we once again begin this journey through the very encouraging book "The Desire of Age "

"This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isa. 9:6. The I Am is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Heb. 7:26; 2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love."
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Post by: JimB on May 27, 2019, 08:03:37 AM
Thank you Dorine, for pointing out that Christ is a friend of sinners. Looks like I'm a couple of days behind you guys. i will catch up but this morning as I read. This is what popped out to me.

It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love.


I've always know that the glory that surrounded Christ was His character. Like Moses shown when he descended form the mount and the rest asked him to veil his face. And knowing that Christ is unselfish it should have been easy to put the two together that to get a little more detailed is that His character is self-sacrificing love. What a loving Savior we have that is reaching out to all of us.

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Post by: Richard Myers on July 24, 2019, 09:25:27 AM
I was impressed to share this truth with our readers today. "What is truth?" The words of Pilot who soon after murdered a man, God, whom he knew to be innocent.

And, a knowledge of the truth leads the sinner to make a decision, but not all choose rightly. Paul presented the truth to a king. "King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest." Deeply affected, Agrippa for the moment lost sight of his surroundings and the dignity of his position. Conscious only of the truths which he had heard, seeing only the humble prisoner standing before him as God's ambassador, he answered involuntarily, "Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian."  But, he did not act on his understanding of truth.

Today is the day of salvation. Make a decision to spend a thoughtful hour a day contemplating the life of Christ.. Join with us daily as we read a chapter from the Desire of Ages. You will be blessed and daily converted. "We all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 2 Cor. 3:18.
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Post by: Beacon on November 11, 2019, 07:12:52 PM
"God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both.

He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren.
Hebrews 7:26;  2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love."


For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
John 3:16

Do we really understand, comprehend and appreciate the tremendous LOVE that is stated in this short verse?...I would encourage all of us to spend more time actually envisioning the counsel meeting which took place prior to Jesus coming to this earth?

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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on November 12, 2019, 01:39:46 AM
Amen, Brother Beacon!!


Such infinite love God has poured out upon us!! He wants us and has a use for us as we cooperate with Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the ministering angels to bring blessings to others!!

I appreciate so much God’s gentle and patient ministry through the angels. May we also minister in harmony with them and be gentle and patient in our ministry to win souls!!

“The angels of glory find their joy in giving,--giving love and tireless watchcare to souls that are fallen and unholy. Heavenly beings woo the hearts of men; they bring to this dark world light from the courts above; by gentle and patient ministry they move upon the human spirit, to bring the lost into a fellowship with Christ which is even closer than they themselves can know.” {The Desire of Ages, page 21, paragraph 1}

As we come close to others as did Jesus, we can pray that the Lord will use is as instruments of His redeeming love, for “only by love is love awakened.” {The Desire of Ages, page 22, paragraph 1}

I marvel at how kind God is to us in Christ, and my heart thrills in contemplation of what He reveals through us for eternity by His mercy: “The exaltation of the redeemed will be an eternal testimony to God’s mercy.” {The Desire of Ages, page 26, paragraph 1} My prayer is that we may daily drink of God’s mercy and appreciate it, knowing that Christ, completely undeserving, drank our cup of divine justice against sin, and died as our sacrifice!! Having been shown such mercy, may we today extend it to others!!!
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Post by: Dorine on November 12, 2019, 05:43:19 AM
The angels of glory find their joy in giving,--giving love and tireless watchcare to souls that are fallen and unholy. Heavenly beings woo the hearts of men; they bring to this dark world light from the courts above; by gentle and patient ministry they move upon the human spirit, to bring the lost into a fellowship with Christ which is even closer than they themselves can know.

Imagine! The angels are constantly working on our behalf to bring us into a relationship with Christ that is even closer than they themselves know. All of heaven is focused on this little polluted planet. If we could see behind the scenes we would see a flurry of constant activity on behalf of fallen man. As we receive from the hand of God the blessings we enjoy from day to day we are not to sit idly by. God has given us abilities and responsibilities to cooperate with the heavenly agencies to bring the message of God's amazing grace to all we come in contact with.  Each time I start these readings I read as if it was the first time. There is always fresh revelations of God's love that He has ready to bestow upon the earnest seeker.
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Post by: Richard Myers on November 12, 2019, 07:56:40 AM
Amen! What a tremendous reading is this!! What a God we serve!!  And why is it that our relationship with God can be even closer than that of the holy angels? Because the greatest form of love is grace, and they have never experienced it. Those who have been forgiven much love much. And we who are great sinners have been forgiven so very much!! We love Him so much because He first loved us so much!

We all have focused on the same theme, God's immutable love. It is the great object of our study now and will be for eternity. To many it is not understood why the Bible calls Jesus the Son of God and the Son of Man. In today's reading we are shown why. It is a most powerful revelation of God's love for us that His Son would submit to becoming one of us, thus He is indeed the Son of Man. He can no longer be everywhere at one time because He is now bound by His humanity. He is still God, the Son of God, and He is now God in human flesh, the likeness of sinful flesh (Romans 8:3.)

    By His life and His death, Christ has achieved even more than recovery from the ruin wrought through sin. It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 7:26;  2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love. 

What love!!!
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Post by: Dorine on February 07, 2020, 07:37:34 AM
Since Jesus came to dwell with us, we know that God is acquainted with our trials, and sympathizes with our griefs. Every son and daughter of Adam may understand that our Creator is the friend of sinners. For in every doctrine of grace, every promise of joy, every deed of love, every divine attraction presented in the Saviour's life on earth, we see "God with us."

What a glorious chapter. Christ's life is all about love. A love that our finite minds can only catch a glimpse of. But that glimpse will mature and grow as we spend time with Him each day.  Another walk with Jesus from the manger to the courts of heaven awaits us. This is where we can be recharged with spiritual strength and knowledge. He will keep us from falling when we keep our eyes on Him and our hand in His. He is our strength and our salvation.
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on February 07, 2020, 08:18:00 AM
Amen, Sister Dorine!!

The "love" of Christ is manifested in Him being "with us." I was moved this morning to see that Jesus' being with us is how He shows us His love!

"'His name shall be called Immanuel, . . . God with us.' 'The light of the knowledge of the glory of God' is seen 'in the face of Jesus Christ.' From the days of eternity the Lord Jesus Christ was one with the Father; He was 'the image of God,' the image of His greatness and majesty, 'the outshining of His glory.' It was to manifest this glory that He came to our world. To this sin-darkened earth He came to reveal the light of God's love,--to be 'God with us.' Therefore it was prophesied of Him, 'His name shall be called Immanuel.'" {The Desire of Ages, page 19, paragraph 1}

The light of God's love is manifested in Jesus being our Brother and coming to dwell with us. We also, by abiding in Him, may dwell with others and reveal the light of Jesus' presence to them that they may become like Him in mind and character! To have Christ abiding in us means that all of the fruits of His Spirit will be seen in our lives without one missing and we will gladly and affectionately obey all of the Ten Commandments to the depth that we know them in Christ by the faith of Jesus through the baptism of the Holy Spirit!
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Post by: Beacon on February 07, 2020, 02:28:51 PM
"In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace,

God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word.
"


How can we begin to understand the depths of God's love for each of us!! - and it will grow deeper throughout all eternity.

O Love that wilt not let me go,
I rest my weary soul in thee;
I give thee back the life I owe,
That in thine ocean depths its flow
May richer, fuller be.

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Post by: Richard Myers on February 07, 2020, 09:28:27 PM
Amen! It is such a wonderful chapter!  My son and I spent our worship this morning on one paragraph.

     By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,--God's thought made audible. In His prayer for His disciples He says, "I have declared unto them Thy name,"--"merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,"--"that the love wherewith Thou hast loved Me may be in them, and I in them." But not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto. 

The lesson for us was "Our little world is the lesson book of the universe." Imagine all that this statement entails! What a truth for us to share with all we have opportunity. What do we know about this statement? It is the most amazing truth God can share with us. Imagine that He has entrusted this to us!!!  How many if they understood, would never again ask why if your God is omnipotent and your God is love, does He allow bad things to happen to "good" people? We have the answer that will make a difference is ever so many!
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Post by: Dorine on May 04, 2020, 05:52:44 AM
This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word. "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both. He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 7:26;  2:11. In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love.

The intimacy that Scripture portrays between God and us is beyond finite understanding. The beauty we see in these words and the realization that we truly do mean that much to Him brings tears of joy and gratitude to my eyes. No wonder we will be searching the depths of His love throughout eternity. It can never be exhausted. "Jesus is all the world to me". I cling to Him like a child to it's Mother's apron because apart from Him I am not safe.
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Post by: Richard Myers on May 04, 2020, 06:37:36 AM
Amen dear Sister! What a chapter!! If all we had were this one chapter, we would know enough to be eternally saved! I am amazed as I see God's plan for us and the universe. And, we are reminded that unselfish love is at the foundation of God and His government!

   By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,--God's thought made audible. In His prayer for His disciples He says, "I have declared unto them Thy name,"--"merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,"--"that the love wherewith Thou hast loved Me may be in them, and I in them." But not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages. Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto.

I find myself more and more repeating the truth that God would have suffered and died for just one of us, but there is more to the story than our salvation. God has a serious problem. There is sin in His universe. He suffers on account of this. Only He could have devised a plan wherein His creatures could retain free will and yet, He can promise us that sin will never ever come again when this demonstration is over.

Bad things happen to "good" people not because God causes this, but He allows it that He can put and end to sin forever. Let a Bible student explain why it is that when probation closes for humanity, that God does not then take His faithful to heaven right then and there. He not only delays His coming, but He allows His faithful to suffer a darkness that was not known even in the dark ages when persecution was at its height. What is to be gained by putting His faithful through a time of trouble such as never was?

But not alone for His earthborn children was this revelation given. Our little world is the lesson book of the universe. God's wonderful purpose of grace, the mystery of redeeming love, is the theme into which "angels desire to look," and it will be their study throughout endless ages.

We are the "lesson book" for the whole universe!! God's character is to be revealed in those who live in fallen evil flesh. We are His witnesses when things go well, but we are better witnesses when being burned at the stake. John was boiled in oil. God says to you and to me "Come let us reason together!"  We are not stupid even when wicked. We can know the truth. Then let us study this chapter that we might know the character of our God and more of His plan for us and the universe! The Word was made flesh and we have the opportunity to behold Him as He walked on this Earth among those whom He called Brethren. What condescension! What love!
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Post by: Beacon on May 04, 2020, 06:52:21 AM
"Both the redeemed and the unfallen beings will find in the cross of Christ their science and their song. It will be seen that the glory shining in the face of Jesus is the glory of self-sacrificing love. In the light from Calvary it will be seen that the law of self-renouncing love is the law of life for earth and heaven; that the love which "seeketh not her own" has its source in the heart of God; and that in the meek and lowly One is manifested the character of Him who dwelleth in the light which no man can approach unto."

This reminds me of the words of this song....#76 SDA Hymnal " Oh Love that will not let me go." by George Matheson 1882

O Love that will not let me go,
I rest my weary soul in thee;
I give thee back the life I owe,
That in thine ocean depths its flow
May richer, fuller be.


May our hearts be full of gratitude and surrender to our Savior for all He has done - is doing - and will yet accomplish for our eternal redemption. 
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Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on May 04, 2020, 09:52:53 AM
Amen, Sister Dorine, Brother Richard, and Brother Beacon!

Nothing in the history and unfolding experiences of this world catches God by surprise. Even the rebellion that happened in heaven and the fall of Adam and Eve that has plunged our planet in so much suffering did not catch God off guard. He did not plan for sin to happen, but He foresaw that the freedom granted in relational love (His character) could (and sadly, would) be abused. But He created us because He loved us and He would rather give us freedom than have robots pre-programmed saying "I love you" for eternity. He desires our love to flow back to Him marked by our own individuality, and reflecting the gratitude for who He truly is to us!

The plan for our redemption was not an afterthought, a plan formulated after the fall of Adam. It was a revelation of "the mystery which hath been kept in silence through times eternal." Romans 16:25, R. V. It was an unfolding of the principles that from eternal ages have been the foundation of God's throne. From the beginning, God and Christ knew of the apostasy of Satan, and of the fall of man through the deceptive power of the apostate. God did not ordain that sin should exist, but He foresaw its existence, and made provision to meet the terrible emergency. So great was His love for the world, that He covenanted to give His only-begotten Son, "that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16. 

As to why God lets His people stay in a world of suffering and sorrow--even after the probation of the world closes and the seven last plagues are falling, we can see that trials have a refining influence on God's people even if it does not mean that they will change their minds about continually surrendering the heart fully to Christ. (For walking in true conversion means manifesting all of the fruits of the Spirit without one missing while obedience is evident up to all a person knows). We can see Job understood what trials do: "But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold" (Job 23:10). The refining process continues right up to the second coming of Jesus, for the righteous love and pray for those who are persecuting them and seeking to put them to death (showing that their character is safe to take to heaven, as they are living a life ripe like Christ in the most trying circumstances because they love God), and it will also allow the whole universe to see that the wicked who are "fully ripe" (Revelation 14:18) are not going to change and that it is safe for Christ to come in His full glory, which will "destroy [the wicked] with the brightness of His coming" 2 Thessalonians 2:8.

The whole universe will realize the goodness of God in such a final and thorough way that the promise and prophecy given in Nahum 1:9 will be realized: "What do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time." It will be safe for ALL CREATED BEINGS to continue to enjoy free will forever with such a marked and final revelation in the closing moments of this world's history of what sin leads to and how thoroughly powerful God's grace and love are to keep His people from falling back into sin when they focus evermore beholding Jesus' loveliness! The genius love of God will be fully seen, who devised a way to save all who desire to be saved but provided a way to remove sin and sinners from ever again polluting the peace and happiness of the universe! Praise to the Lord!!
Title: Re: Welcome! Join With Us as We Read Daily The Desire of Ages
Post by: Pastor Sean Brizendine on July 30, 2020, 05:54:31 AM
God is so genius. Really. Always. Constantly. He takes ALL THE BAD STUFF that the devil intends to use to separate us from Jesus, and then revolutionizes the experience into a song and science whereby through the cross of Christ we are brought into a closer intimacy with God than if the sin and bad stuff had not happened. The only condition for us? Look to Jesus and yield the WHOLE heart to Him!! While we should not intentionally sin (and why would we if we truly love God and know His plan is best?), but if we make mistakes, and as this planet has been plunged into the sin pandemic since Adam and Eve sinned, let us rejoice that Jesus came to bring us into oneness with God!! What a blessedness!!

"The work of redemption will be complete. In the place where sin abounded, God's grace much more abounds. The earth itself, the very field that Satan claims as his, is to be not only ransomed but exalted. Our little world, under the curse of sin the one dark blot in His glorious creation, will be honored above all other worlds in the universe of God. Here, where the Son of God tabernacled in humanity; where the King of glory lived and suffered and died,--here, when He shall make all things new, the tabernacle of God shall be with men, 'and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God.' And through endless ages as the redeemed walk in the light of the Lord, they will praise Him for His unspeakable Gift,--Immanuel, 'God with us.'" {The Desire of Ages, page 26, paragraph 3}

God is with you right now. You may not feel Him, but that is where love is experienced BY FAITH! When God says He is with us, we can trust Him and let Him deliver us from all of our sins, heal us into His image, and fill us with all of the fruits of the Spirit so not one is missing! Then because He shows us the definition of the freedom in the universe (Hint: it's the Ten Commandments) we gladly walk in harmony with these declarations of continual dependence upon Jesus in order to do any good thing!! What love is this that we find in Christ! Share it! Sing it! Live it!!
Title: Re: Welcome! Join With Us as We Read Daily The Desire of Ages
Post by: Beacon on July 30, 2020, 06:52:23 AM
"It was Satan's purpose to bring about an eternal separation between God and man; but in Christ we become more closely united to God than if we had never fallen. In taking our nature, the Saviour has bound Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked with us. "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. He gave Him not only to bear our sins, and to die as our sacrifice; He gave Him to the fallen race. To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of the human family, forever to retain His human nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His word."

He who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners," is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 7:26;  2:11.

"In Christ the family of earth and the family of heaven are bound together. Christ glorified is our brother. Heaven is enshrined in humanity, and humanity is enfolded in the bosom of Infinite Love..."Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder." God has adopted human nature in the person of His Son, and has carried the same into the highest heaven. It is the "Son of man" who shares the throne of the universe. It is the "Son of man" whose name shall be called, "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6. The I AM is the Daysman between God and humanity, laying His hand upon both."

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
John 3:16


Do we really understand, comprehend and appreciate the tremendous LOVE that is stated in this short verse above?...I would encourage all of us to spend more time actually envisioning the counsel meeting which took place just prior to Jesus coming to this earth.

What Great Love the Father and Jesus have bestowed upon each one of us!!! 

Title: Re: Welcome! Join With Us as We Read Daily The Desire of Ages
Post by: Richard Myers on July 30, 2020, 08:58:41 PM
Amen Pastor Sean and Brother Beacon!  What a chapter!! Why did Jesus come to the Earth to dwell with us? Let me share what I shared in Wednesday's Sabbath school lesson.

Wednesday         July 29

The Holy Spirit, the Word, and Witnessing



Why is there life giving power in the Word? Why does faith come by the Word? What is the Word? We have begun reading again the Desire of Ages. In the first chapter we read: "By coming to dwell with us, Jesus was to reveal God both to men and to angels. He was the Word of God,—God’s thought made audible." The Bible says "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." John 1:14. This is why there is living power in the Word, it is a revelation of the character of God. As we read the Bible, we learn of God. We cannot trust someone we do not know. When we know God as it is our privilege to know Him, we will trust Him with the whole heart, with all we have and all we are.

God with us is a most amazing thing. Jesus left heaven and came to this dark spot in the universe a helpless baby subject the weakness of humanity to fight the battle as each of us have to, at the risk of failure and eternal loss. Such love!!  He came here where Satan claims dominion. Imagine the sorrow and pain that our heavenly Father felt watching His innocent Son suffer at the hands of evil men. Wonder O heavens and be astonished O Earth!!
Title: Re: Welcome! Join With Us as We Read Daily The Desire of Ages
Post by: Dorine on July 31, 2020, 04:48:12 AM
"By His humanity, Christ touched humanity; by His divinity, He lays hold upon the throne of God. As the Son of man, He gave us an example of obedience; as the Son of God, He gives us power to obey."

This short statement is powerful. May we keep our eyes on Jesus today. He is our everything.  He is our only connection to God. He is our example in all things and He provides the power to live for Him. May we not try to carry a burden that is not ours to carry. Everyday I need to be reminded of who He is and who I am; what part He plays and what part is mine. He wants our daily surrendered hearts so that in continually looking to Him He will change us into His character.