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Title: More Time Setting
Post by: Mimi on December 03, 2010, 05:53:45 PM
Billboards advertise the coming Rapture
Published: Dec. 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM
   
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NASHVILLE, Dec. 1 (UPI) -- Billboards in Nashville and eight other cities around the United States advertise The Rapture, saying it will take place on May 21, 2011.

The advertisements were arranged by fans of Family Radio Inc., and the date is the one worked out by the Christian network's founder, Harold Camping, The (Nashville) Tennessean reports. They say "He Is Coming Again" and warn there is less than six months to get into a state of grace.

Allison Warden, 29, of Raleigh, N.C., who was in charge of the billboard campaign in Nashville, would not say who supplied the funding. Other cities include Louisville, St. Louis, Detroit, Little Rock, Omaha, Kansas City, Fort Wayne, Ind., and Bridgeport, Conn.

Camping calculated his date based on the belief there would be 7,000 years between Noah's Flood, dated at May 21, 4990 B.C., and the Rapture, when faithful Christians are taken up into heaven.

There have been numerous predictions of the Second Coming. William Miller, founder of the Seventh-Day Adventists, predicted it would take place in 1843, an event that became known as the Great Disappointment.

The Adventists have become more cautious.

"The Bible says no one knows the day or the hour," said the Rev. Fred Fuller of Madison Campus Seventh-day Adventist Church near Nashville. "I don't believe that date-setting or the scare tactic of an immediate date is a biblical approach."
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Vicki on December 04, 2010, 04:12:01 PM
There have been numerous predictions of the Second Coming. William Miller, founder of the Seventh-Day Adventists, predicted it would take place in 1843, an event that became known as the Great Disappointment.

The Adventists have become more cautious

William Miller died 14 years before there was a Seventh-day Adventist church - I wonder how he could have founded it? We do have our roots in the Millerite movement. Two different things. I don't recall the Seventh-day Adventist Church ever setting a date for Jesus to return.

With the ease of research these days you'd think articles could be more accurate.

I wouldn't wait almost 6 months to get right with God - now is the time.
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2010, 05:27:19 PM
If it wasn't such an example of poor journalism it would almost be comical that they credited Miller for founding the Seventh-day Adventist Church since he never accepted the Sabbath.  ::) 

And no, the Seventh-day Adventist Church has never been guilty of setting a date for the Second Coming, although some of its members have been guilty of date setting.
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Vicki on December 04, 2010, 06:10:39 PM
Poor journalism for sure. I had noticed no one took credit for the article. There was a link to the source of their article which did state the info regarding Miller better, but continued on to mock instead of revealing facts.
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Sister Dee on December 04, 2010, 06:16:39 PM
Good points. 

The Flood was May 21, 4990 B.C.?  I wonder how Camping arrived at that? 
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Vicki on December 04, 2010, 06:28:32 PM
I don't know. Perhaps the ages of patriarchs and kings can be traced back? I've never tried.

ex:
Genesis 9:28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.....

Genesis 11:10 These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood: 11 And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters. 12 And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah: 13 And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Wally on December 05, 2010, 03:55:29 AM
Good points. 

The Flood was May 21, 4990 B.C.?  I wonder how Camping arrived at that? 

I don't know, but he's way off.  Off the top of my head, without doing the calculations (or cheating and looking in the Commentary), I recall the figure of approximately 2344 BC for the flood.  That is based on adding up the ages of the Patriarchs before the flood, and coordinating it with the births of their first sons.  That gives you a flood date of 1656 AC (after Creation), if I recall correctly.  Subtracting that figure from 4000 (assuming approximately 4000 years between Creation and the birth of Christ--see DA 49) gives you 2344.  How he came up with a figure of nearly 5000 BC is a mystery.  That would make the earth 7000 years old.  The only way he could arrive at a figure like that is to assume several omissions in the genealogical record.  That's a big assumption. Where's his proof?
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Vicki on December 05, 2010, 04:40:43 AM
ah - I didn't catch his calculation error because his reasoning is just plain wrong. Ussher's timeline which is considered among the best calculates the earth was created in 4004 BC.
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: JimB on December 05, 2010, 06:46:56 AM
I was thinking about this yesterday. I don't know how many people actually believe what he is teaching but I assume that there are some. If they really believe that they will be raptured in about 6 months are they living differently?

It's my understanding that when the milerites thought the Lord was coming in 1844 that they were making things right between each other. They left crops in the field because they didn't see any need to harvest them. Etc...etc...
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Vicki on December 05, 2010, 07:03:37 AM
It would be interesting to meet up with someone who believes this and ask how it has affected their life. So many Christians think all you have to do is believe so I doubt there is much introspection going on in most people.
Title: Re: More Time Setting
Post by: Colleenhf on December 10, 2010, 11:01:39 AM
Is there info that the founders believed in the 7,000 yr age of the earth then christ would come?