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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 07, 2000, 06:28:00 AM
Now that the government in England has confessed there is a relationship between mad cow disease (BSE) and CJD, a human disease that is fatal, we should be awakened to the problems facing us in eating animal products.

Have you ever considerd that Mad Cow  disease may be in your country? And, have you considered that it could be in products that contain ingredients made from infected cows?

It seems we have been given good counsel that if heeded would protect us from this brain destroying disease. Does anyone have a listing of foods that contain these ingredients that if infected could lead to human infection?

Richard

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: MARCIO on September 08, 2000, 06:02:00 PM
I'm a vegan for almost 6 years now.  The main reason why I changed my diet was that, right after I was baptized, I was impressed by the counsels given us in the SOP about health reform.  Today, almost 6 years after, I can only count the blessings.  My health has been excellent since then.  I haven't been to the doctor or taken any drugs such as Aspirin, Tylenol and so on since I changed my diet.  I don't have to worry about eating something that may have Mad Cow disease, etc.

I never thought I would be a vegan one day.  That shows that with God NOTHING is impossible.  Praise the Lord for His counsels regarding our well being.

Marcio

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Liane H on September 09, 2000, 09:59:00 AM
It is so strange that one of the reasons I never would become a new ager was because I did not want to be a vegetarian.

And look at me now.  

The reality is that England and Australia will not allow GMO altered food in their country either.

But what do those same companies like Kellogg who send GMO "free" food to those countries give us, GMO altered products.

I was thinking just a few months ago, well as long as I am using Organic milk, I should be o.k.  

Boy was I wrong.  Organic means nothing.  You can have 1% organic product and they can call it organic.  

You can have organic soybeans, but the soybean oil they use is not. You HAVE TO READ THE LABELS, to make sure that you are buying pure organic products.

And because it says organic, does not mean it is GMO free.

Animals like cows, sheep and pigs are being fed meat byproducts with their grains that are pressed together as pellits as feed.

These animals that are primarly vegetarians are being given meat to eat.

It is not enough that we are taking care of our bodies, but God calls us to be responsbile caretakers of everything on this earth. What we do to these animals, whether they are used as food or as pets, He has given into our care as we are given into His care for our lives.

Are we being responsible. Are we speaking out against the abuse and injustice being done to these poor animals. They cannot speak for themselves.  We must speak for them.  

If you continue to eat meat, at least make sure that the caretakers of these animals are treating these animals in a humane and caring way while they are alive.

The meat may not look like a cow when it gets to the dinner table, but nonetheless it was once a living creature that feels pain and kindness from others.

It is the least we can do.

Liane

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 14, 2000, 11:43:00 AM
Thanks, Brother Marcio for the testimony.  :) Jesus loves us and wants us to be in good health. When we lose our health we lose a lot. I praise Him also for the light that can preserve our precious health. Sister Liane,  thanks for pointing out what is being done to the animals.  The diseases in them is increasing at an alarming rate. It is no wonder. In England, chickens were fed cow meat that had been diseased with mad cow disease, then cows were fed chicken manure thus reinfecting the healthier cows.

God has warned us to not eat products from the animals.  Over a hundred years ago we were told "soon" we should not do so.  Cancer is epidemic in the world today and much is coming through the animal products. The animals are sick just as God said.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Suzanne on October 31, 2000, 04:01:00 PM
This is from the Riverside, Calif. Press-Enterprise, Oct. 29, 2000

British Girl Dies From Mad Cow

London--A 14 year-old girl Saturday became the latest person to die of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, the human form of mad cow.

The young girl died at her home in Wigan in northern England, just days after her family allowed television cameras to record her plight. She was seen lying virtually motionless in bed.

Her mother, pointed out that the family has since stopped eating meat, and said she felt guilty for buying cheap beef burgers, which she fears may have caused her daughter's illness.

The British government this week promised millions of dollars in compensation for families stricken by the disease.

It said mistakes were made in the handling of the crisis, including a 6-month delay in informing the public about the disease after government scientists identified it in late 1995, for fear of causing panic and damaging British trade.

81 people have now died from the brain-wasting disease in Britain and 5 other cases are suspected. 3 lawsuits have been filed against the government.  --end of article.

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on October 31, 2000, 05:43:00 PM
Thank you, Sister Suzanne. There are some lessons for us to learn from this.  We thought that if you cooked the animal product it would kill the bacteria or virus and thus the disease could not be transfered. Not true. Yes, the virus and bacteria are dead, but the prion transfers the disease and even when heated to temperatures in excess of 200 degrees C. the prion is still able to infect. What else can we learn? It is not safe to trust our health to the government. We must take responsibility for ourselves.

One more lesson. God is always right and if we will follow the light we have been given our children will reap the benefit. If we love our children then we ought to walk in the light.  One hundred years ago we were told to sterilize our milk from healthy cows. The day would soon come when it would not be safe to drink sterilized milk. This was the light from one hundred years ago. Do we want prophesy? Do we want science? Or do we want to continue as we always have? You may review the posts from other forums over the last seven years and the information coming out of the GC and see that there is great opposition to the truth. All must decide for themselves, but as the above article suggests the consequences of being wrong are getting quite severe.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dugald T Lewis MD on October 31, 2000, 05:58:00 PM

“Many die of disease caused wholly by meat eating, yet the world does not seem to be the wiser." EGW
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 01, 2000, 07:20:00 AM
Yes, Dr. Dugald and many do not know it because we have not done our work. The diseases that are in the animals, especially cancer, are being passed to humans through the meat, milk , and eggs.  While Seventh-day Adventists reject this truth, the world suffers because we are not witnesses for the Lord. What a testimony for the truth if we as a people walked in the light we have been given. The consequences of our actions go further than mere mortal life. A subject well worth pondering.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Suzanne on November 01, 2000, 09:06:00 AM
Brethren, this is from the Riverside Press-Enterprise, dated Oct. 28, 2000.

Spread of Disease in Hospital Feared

New Orleans--A patient who died after brain surgery had an incurable disease thay may have been spread to 8 other patients through tainted instruments, hospital officials said.

Tulane Univ. Hospital and Clinic stopped using the surgical instruments as soon as officials realized the first patient had died from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, said Dr. Alan Miller, a Tulane vice president.

Miller said that the instruments went through normal washing and sterilization procedures before the 8 operations, which were also brain surgeries.  --end of article.

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Suzanne on November 01, 2000, 12:49:00 PM
Brothers and sisters, this item is from "Good Medicine," Autumn 2000.

Mystery Meat Uncovered

German scientists have developed a test that detects brain and spinal cord material in cooked meat products. Liverwurst and bologna samples from across Germany tested positive. The presence of brain tissue means possible exposure to mad cow disease and Creutzfeld-Jakob disease, a fatal human brain disorder.

No, it it not illegal in Germany to use brain material in meat, and the lead investigator of the study believes that this discovery is no reason for consumers to change their eating habits.

(Good Medicine, is published quarterly by Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine).  

                 

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Suzanne on November 16, 2000, 08:05:00 AM
A news item from the Riverside, Calif. Press-Enterprise, Nov. 15, 2000.

Mad Cow Scare Sees Steak Ban

FRANCE--Amid spiraling fears about mad cow disease, France's government on Tuesday announced it was banning the T-bone steak, the second specialty to be slashed from the nation's menus in a week.

Prime Minister Lionel Jospin said the government was also implementing a temporary ban on all livestock feed containing meat--including fish, chicken and pork.

Concern about France's beef also heightened in Italy, where the Agriculture minister threatened to halt most beef imports from France if the European Union failed to block the exports.  --end of article.

Brothers and sisters, livestock feed containing meat--including fish, chicken and pork--continues to be used on a daily basis in this country (USA). This "witches' brew" is dried and pulverized into a brown powder or meal called "protein concentrate" and is used as an additive in almost all livestock and poultry feed.  

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 19, 2000, 11:26:00 AM
It is a very serious situation and a very sad one.  We feed animal products to sheep and cows. This is what started the BSE problem in England.  We have "mad cow" disease in our sheep for sure. It is called Scrapie. Thank you, Jesus for telling us in advance that it is not safe to eat animal products.

As we are able we will be providing some additional resources to help our people use this sad situation to minister to those who have not been blessed with the light we have.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 23, 2000, 08:48:00 AM
France, Italy, and Spain are going through what Britain did with the discovery of BSE (Mad Cow Disease) in their cattle. The price of meat has been cut in half and the economic situation is dire.  The success in testing for BSE in France has generated the new cases and now it is thought that the people have been eating infected cows for some time. Knowing the disease is contagious to humans has slowed many from eating meat.

We can thank Jesus on this Thanksgiving day in the U.S. that our children are not eating animal products. Now, if we had warned the world prior to this, how many would have been saved from not only CJD (human mad cow disease) but from cancer and other diseases that are transmitted via animal products? It is good that we have a place to take our guilt. The world does not if they will not accept Jesus as a Saviour. Lord Jesus forgive us our sins and cleanse us from our unrighteousness.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 04, 2000, 10:59:00 AM
While there are a number of diseases that one might contract from eating animal products, BSE (mad cow disease) is a good example to look at when considering the safety of eating  such things. BSE was first found to be a significant problem in cattle in England, but for those that felt safe in other countries, it was short lived. Now, cattle have been found to be infected in much of Western Europe and we have known for a long time that sheep in many countries including the U.S. have Scrapie which is the sheep version of "mad cow disease".

Isn't God good to allow such an infectious situation to develop publicly that God's people might have another source of information than just the Seventh-day Adventist Church!

Richard

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 14, 2000, 05:04:00 PM
Comfortable in the U.S.?  Scrapie, the sheep disease that was transfered to cattle and called "mad cow" disease is in the U.S. flocks and has been for many years. CJD the human version of BSE (mad cow disease) is in the U.S. also.

Can sheep infect humans with a spongiform disease?  We have some studies on the subject. Anyone care to comment?

And an additional question. Can one be infected by animal products other than eating  meat?

Richard

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dugald T Lewis MD on December 24, 2000, 05:42:00 PM
Dear Brother Richard,

I just learnt from the 6:30 news tonight on CBS or NBC that Germany is now being affected by mad cows. The entire meat industry there is being threatened. Pretty soon, it would be outside of Europe.  

Dugald


Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 24, 2000, 08:22:00 PM
Yes, Dr. Dugald. Isn't God good to warn us ahead of time?  Spongiform disease has been outside of Europe for quite awhile. It will come as a shock to many in the U.S. that we already have spongiform disease here.

Richard

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dugald T Lewis MD on December 27, 2000, 06:54:00 PM
Dear Richard,
In that news report I referenced, they were quick to state that CJD is not yet here in the US. I don't quite believe that. Interestingly the incubation period can be as long as 10 years, so lets wait a while.
Sincerely
Dugald
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 27, 2000, 07:53:00 PM
Dr. Dugald, CJD is already in the U.S. The rate is reported to be 1 case per million, but my guess is that there is much that is not diagnosed. Dr. Hulse told me that a percentage of Alzheimers patients on death are detirmined to have Creutzfeldt-Jakob rather than Alzheimers. It is so sad to realize that so many are contracting so much disease from animal products. One day we will realize how much suffering we could have prevented if we had done what we were told to do.  :(
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: M.A. Crawford on December 28, 2000, 08:15:00 AM
As it has already been alluded to, perhaps now we can finally understand why the Lord, mainly through His servant Ellen G. White, has given us ample warning as to the dangers involved in consuming animal flesh and products.

We have individuals who have access to outstanding and vital information on this subject. Other than through the Remnant Online forums, I would hope that some how, some way, this information could be sent to responsible individuals in various parts of the country (and possibly the world) for distribution to as many churches (and/or concerned pastors) as possible because there are so many of our people who need to know this vital information while there is still time to do something about it.

M.A.  

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 29, 2000, 05:15:00 PM
Happy Sabbath, all.  :)

Brother Crawford, that is an excellent suggestion. It is one that we here at TRO can undertake. What a service this could be to the world. Many in the churches will not appreciate it, but there will be many who will. We ought not let this stop us. Think of the suffering that could be alleviated if we were to expand this knowledge around the world.  

Let us continue to pray and discuss how to best go about this.  

In His love and grace,     Richard

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Helen Thompson on December 29, 2000, 05:40:00 PM
Has anyone accessed these web sites:

www.notmilk.com

www.mad-cow.org

www.prwatch.org
Surely the Lord is warning the whole world. How can we stand by and not see the Lord's hand in this. We have been told in the S.O.P.that the Lord would let us know when the time to give up milk and eggs. The time is now.
There are books written by non church members that warn of these things.
Here is a small sampling:
"Mad Cowboy" by Howard Lyman
"Mad Cow U.S.A." by Sheldon Hampton and John Stauber
"Mad Cows and Milk Gate" by Virgil Hulse
"Milk the Deadly Poision" by Robert Cohen

Because of greed the animal creation is groaning under disease.
In the Sept. 1,1997 issue of U. S. News and World Report is an article intitled "The next bad beef scandal?" This is an eye opener as to what they are feeding the cattle!!!!! They don't care about the consumer, it's just their pocket book!!!!!!! A word to the wise.
My husband shares these things with his Sabbath School class, and many are concerned.  

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 29, 2000, 07:13:00 PM
Sister Helen, happy Sabbath!  You will be blessed to know that Dr. Hulse was a faithful Seventh-day Adventist physician educated at Loma Linda.  God is working in ways we do not see.  :)

And, he is working in Sabbath School classes around the world we do not see. Thanks for encouraging us with your husband's faithfulness.

One additional word of encouragement, go to our Web Sites forum and there you will find a few other faithful servants that are doing good work for the Lord in this area.

Thanks for the information.

In His love and grace,     Richard

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Helen Thompson on December 29, 2000, 07:55:00 PM
Bro. Richard

Sorry,I did make a mistake on Dr. Hulse account. He has written a timely book. I just wish that more members would take heed.

Have a happy Sabbath.
Helen

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on August 10, 2002, 03:00:00 PM
Aug. 9

The first Canadian, a man, has died from contracting Creutzfeldt-Jakob (mad cow) disease. "There is no evidence that mad cow disease has entered the Canadian food supply, and therefore we can reassure the Canadian public the person did not acquire the disease in Canada," said Dr. Antonio Giulivi, an official with the Canadian government agency, Health Canada.


http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/ap20020809_371.html

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Curt on September 29, 2002, 04:28:00 AM

The human form of mad cow disease is more widespread than iis being admitted and only time will tell.

By the way - OPra and "The Mad Cowboy" were again aquitted for remarks made against the dairy and beef industry when he was interviewed on Opra a couple of years ago.

Below is an article on the threat to Brits oncontracting the human form of Mad Cow Disease

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Curt on September 29, 2002, 04:30:00 AM
From IntelliHealth Online

More Than 7,000 Britons Could Be At Risk Of Human Form Of Mad Cow Disease: Report
September 20, 2002
LONDON (AP) -- More than 7,000 people in Britain could face an increased risk of contracting the human form of the fatal brain wasting illness mad cow disease, according to research published Friday.
According to preliminary results of an ongoing study published in the British Medical Journal, 120 people per million could be at increased risk of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, but have not yet developed symptoms.
Variant CJD has killed some 80 Europeans since the mid-1990s, mostly in Britain, which has diagnosed more than 100 cases.
A team led by David Hilton of Derriford Hospital in Plymouth, southern England, studied samples from appendix and tonsil removal operations for traces of the disease.
They looked for the accumulation of prion protein, a known reliable marker of bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE, in cows.
From 8,318 samples studied, one showed traces of the prion protein.
The scientists also looked at tissue removed during autopsy or during surgery from patients who were later confirmed as having variant CJD, and found 19 out of 20 showed traces of the prion protein.
Based on the one positive case per 8,318 samples, the researchers estimated that 120 people per million could have a detectable accumulation of prion protein, but said the margin of error was high. The research, which is funded by Britain's health department, is set to run for a further year.
"This finding shows that we need larger scale studies particularly of tissue from recently removed tonsils so that we can obtain a more reliable picture of the possible numbers of people who may develop vCJD," said Hilton, a consultant neuropathologist.
"We have confirmed that there are individuals in the population carrying this disease silently but we don't know if they will go on to develop symptoms for sure," he added.
It appears to be contracted by eating meat tainted by mad cow disease. Prions cause deep lesions and sponge-like holes in brain tissue. There is no known cure.
Currently, the surest way of confirming infection with variant CJD is by examining brain tissue after death.
Scientists don't know how long the incubation period is and don't know how many people have been infected with the disease. In the past they have estimated that anywhere between a few hundred to 100,000 people could eventually be struck.
If 120 people per million could have an accumulation of prion protein, then based on the population in the United Kingdom of just under 60 million, some 7,200 people could be at increased risk of variant CJD.
The Chief Medical Officer, Sir Liam Donaldson, said more research needed to be done.
"This research provides evidence of infection but it is very hard to draw conclusions on the size of the outbreak from it," he said.
He announced plans to set up an archive of tonsils so more research could be conducted.
"The archive will allow prospective studies to be done on the largest possible number of tonsils so that we can get better estimates of the size of the vCJD epidemic," he added.
Dr. John Collinge of the Institute of Neurology in London told the British Broadcasting Corp. that the tests may not have been sensitive enough and up to four times as many cases could have been found.
"You don't know whether this is one sample that has been found in a very tiny number of the population which was fortuitously picked up by the study or whether it is the tip of an iceberg," he said.
Copyright 2002 Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Curt on September 29, 2002, 04:53:00 AM
And now the Genetic Cure - Change the Genes in a new breed of cows to fight off the Mad Cow spread to cattle.
As SOP tels us, in the last days the use of meat will become more objectionable. Here we see it is not only Mad Cows but what will possibly be identified as "Clean Beef".

Study: Breeding Could Avert Mad Cow
September 24, 2002
WASHINGTON (AP) -- In a study that could help develop cattle bred to resist mad cow disease, researchers showed in a laboratory experiment that a mutated protein may protect animals from the prion protein that causes the brain-destroying disorder.

Researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, reported that they genetically altered a strain of mice so the animals made a mutated form of prions which then prevented the animals from becoming ill when injected with a form of prion that usually causes the brain disease.

"We found that the (genetically engineered) mouse became completely resistant to the prion disease," said Dr. Jiri G. Safar, a co-author of the study appearing this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Safar said he and his colleagues now hope to develop a genetically engineered strain of cattle which is resistant to mad cow, known formally as bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE.

Patrick W. Dunne, a veterinary scientist at Texas A&M and a BSE researcher, called the study by Safar and his colleagues "a breakthrough."

"This means that prion diseases in livestock could be at least inhibited, if not eliminated," said Dunne. "It is a very significant finding."

Prion diseases include BSE in cattle, scrapie in sheep and Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease in humans. There is also a related wasting disease in deer and elk. The diseases are caused by an abnormal form of the prion protein that makes the normal form of prion change its shape and become infectious. The abnormal prion causes the progressive, irreversible destruction of brain cells. The disease is fatal in all species where it occurs.

An epidemic of mad cow disease developed in Britain in the 1980s after cattle there were given feed that included body parts from sheep with scrapie. Researchers later found that some people developed a form of prion disease, called new variant-Crutchfeld-Jacob Disease, after eating meat from infected cattle. The discovery caused a temporary ban on the import of British beef in many countries and the destruction of thousands of cattle in the United Kingdom.

More than 100 people in Europe have been diagnosed with new variant-CJD, but that form of prion disease has not been diagnosed in the United States. A type of CJD not related to eating meat, however, does occur in the United States.

In the new study, Safar and his co-authors, which includes Stanley B. Prusiner, who was awarded a Nobel Prize for discovering prion disease, found that by altering the genes of mice they could make the animals resistant to the brain-destroying disease.

Safar said earlier studies in Japan and elsewhere had suggested that some mutated forms of prion prevented the disease-causing form of the protein from causing disease.

To test this idea, researchers engineered a mouse strain with genes that caused key changes in the amino acids that make up the prion protein. When mature, the mice were injected with high doses of the disease-causing form of prion.

Although some of the test animals did form some pathogenic prions, none of them developed the full blown prion disease. Safar called this the "silent expression" of the diseased prion.

In contrast, mice with the normal type of prion developed a fatal brain disorder when they were injected with the disease-causing form of prion.

With selective genetic engineering, Safar said, "it is possible we could wipe out even the silent expression and transmission of the pathogenic prion."

Safar said that altering the prion gene to make it resistant to the disease is better than eliminating the gene altogether, as some have suggested. Taking out the gene altogether, he said, could cause subtle health changes in the animals since normal prions play a role in brain cell maintenance.

Copyright 2002 Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 29, 2002, 09:03:00 PM
Wow!
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Curt on October 06, 2002, 06:43:00 AM
HI,

I heard a brief news bulletin but have not seen the article. If anyone has please let me know where I can get it. The news release said that the Court case between the Cattle and Dairy industry vs Oprah & The Mad Cowboy was thrown out. The first case was also thrown out and the Cattlemena dn Dairy farmers took it to a higher US court.

Please let me know (email) where I can get the article.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Suzanne on October 06, 2002, 02:36:00 PM
Br. Curt....

This is from Howard Lyman's, the Mad Cowboy's web page:

Special Announcement: 8-27-02

It's OVER. The verdict on the most recent appeal by "Cactus Feeders" against Oprah Winfrey and Howard Lyman, to a Federal Court has been dismissed. After almost 6 years and many millions of dollats in lawyer's fees, the case is over. Oprah and Howard won and the group that appealed is not permitted to appeal this verdict to a higher court (ie. the Supreme Court) or pursue the matter any more.

The original trial was in Feb. 1998 in Amarrillo, Texas... The April 1998 verdict was for Oprah and Howard. After several appeals...on August 27, 2002, the Federal judge dismissed the case, which means the case is over, statute of limitations has expired. The case cannot be filed again, anywhere...including the Supreme Court.

For the complete background and account see: www.madcowboy.com/01_BookOP.000.html

~Suzanne~  

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Curt on October 09, 2002, 05:11:00 PM
Suzanne,

thank you very much for the post. I did visit his website and browsed a few articles. Free Speech Is Alive and we should use it for the education of all.
:)

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 12, 2003, 01:17:00 PM
In order to understand what is being done by the U.S. and others responsible for alerting the public of the danger from BSE (Mad Cow Disease) and the associated diseases, we must learn a few terms being used and what they mean.

Transmissible spongiform  encephalopathies (TSEs) include Mad Cow Disease, Scarpie in sheep, Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)in deer and elk, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) in humans.  Few consider that the scrapie in European and American sheep, and CWD in deer can infect humans.

From the World Health Organization

Transmissible spongiform
                   encephalopathies (TSEs) are a family
                   of diseases of humans and animals
                   characterized by spongy degeneration
                   of the brain with severe and fatal
                   neurological signs and symptoms. In
                   animals, scrapie is a common disease
                   in sheep and goats. Mink and North
                   American mule deer and elk can
                   contract TSEs. Bovine spongiform
                   encephalopathy (BSE) is also a TSE,
                   affecting a number of species (cattle, human, cats, some types of animals
                   in 300 settings).

                   BSE is a transmissible, neuro-degenerative fatal brain disease of cattle.
                   The disease has a long incubation period of 4-5 years and it is fatal for
                   cattle within weeks to months of its onset. The nature of the BSE agent is
                   still being debated. Strong evidence currently available supports the theory
                   that the agent is composed largely, if not entirely, of a self-replicating
                   protein, referred to as a prion. It is transmitted through the consumption of
                   BSE-contaminated meat and bone meal supplements in cattle feed.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 29, 2003, 08:04:00 AM
The United States has a very large meat industry that is at risk. With the discovery of a "mad cow" in Canada, who shares an open border and similar feed products for their cattle, the United States has now added Canada to the list of countries from which it will not import cow and it's products.

With the discovery of BSE in Canada, Americans are now in a position to wonder as to their own health. Canada has exported a very large amount of it's beef to the United States.

Japan also is having problems since they discovered mad cows in their country. They had a fraud difficulty in their meat industry and and trying to recover. Here is a quote from the Japan Times regarding how the BSE got into Japan. "To increase production, cattle were fed animal protein-based feed, even though this ran counter to their physiology, he said."

From the U.S. Federal Register we have the Canada issue:

Rules and Regulations
                                               Federal Register
DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

9 CFR Parts 93 and 94

[Docket No. 03-058-1]


Change in Disease Status of Canada Because of BSE

AGENCY: Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, USDA.

ACTION: Interim rule and request for comments.

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SUMMARY: We are amending the regulations by adding Canada to the list
of regions where bovine spongiform encephalopathy exists because the
disease has been detected in an animal in that region. This action
prohibits or restricts the importation of ruminants that have been in
Canada and meat, meat products, and certain other products and
byproducts of ruminants that have been in Canada. This action is
necessary to help prevent the introduction of bovine spongiform
encephalopathy into the United States.

DATES: This rule is effective retroactively to May 20, 2003. We will
consider all comments that we receive on or before July 28, 2003.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 30, 2003, 04:36:00 AM
   

WHO conclusions and recommendations to reduce exposure to the BSE agent


All countries must prohibit the use of ruminant tissues in ruminant feed and must exclude tissues that are likely to contain the BSE agent from any animal or human food chain. BSE eradication was recommended during a WHO consultation held in December 1999.
All countries are encouraged to conduct risk assessments to determine if they are at risk for BSE in sheep and goats. It is advised that any tissue which may come from deer or elk with Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD, a transmissible spongiform disease of North American mule deer and elk) is not used in animal or human food; however, at this time there is no evidence to suggest that CWD in deer and elk can be transmitted to humans.
No infectivity has yet been detected in skeletal muscle tissue. Reassurance can be provided by removal of visible nervous and lymphatic tissue from meat (skeletal muscle).
Milk and milk products are considered safe. Tallow and gelatin are considered safe if prepared by a manufacturing process which has been shown experimentally to inactivate the transmissible agent and, if prepared from specifically identified tissues, or from cattle without risk of exposure to BSE.
Human and veterinary vaccines prepared from bovine materials may carry the risk of transmission of animal TSE agents. The pharmaceutical industry should ideally avoid the use of bovine materials and materials from other animal species in which TSEs naturally occur. If absolutely necessary, bovine materials should be obtained from countries which have a surveillance system for BSE in place and which report either zero or only sporadic cases of BSE. These precautions apply to the manufacture of cosmetics as well.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 30, 2003, 04:50:00 AM
From the World Health Organization information above we can learn a lot.

"at this time there is no evidence to suggest that CWD in deer and elk can be transmitted to humans."

If we value our health, we can put this another way. "At this time there is no evidence to suggest it is safe to eat deer and elk."

Continuing from the WHO statement:  "Milk and milk products are considered safe."

No studies have been done on humans to indicate it is safe to drink milk from Mad Cows.

"Tallow and gelatin are considered safe if prepared by a manufacturing process which has been shown experimentally to inactivate the transmissible agent and, if prepared from    specifically identified tissues, or from cattle without risk of exposure to BSE."

The suggestion that a manufacturing process can "inactivate" mad cow in gelatin was an industry suggestion that is incorrect.

"Human and veterinary vaccines prepared from bovine materials may carry the risk of transmission of animal TSE agents."

Eating animal products is dangerous, injecting them into the blood stream is even more so.

"These precautions apply to the manufacture of cosmetics as well."

Something to consider when we wash our hands with soap made from cows and sheep that may have BSE or Scrapie.

There is more here than meets the eye of the casual observer.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 31, 2003, 09:11:00 AM
The following is what I have been able to come up with as to the extent of the problem as it is being reported. I would suggest that it is only the tip of a very large iceberg.


Country..........BSE total.......Cases of vCJD
               
                           
                     

UK.................183341........... 129
Austria...............1
Belgium.............111
Canada...............1..................1
CzechRepublic......5
Denmark............13
Finland................1
France.............808..................6
Germany...........252
Greece...............1
Ireland...........1271..................1
Israel.................1
Italy...............100...................1
Japan.................7
Liechtenstein.......2
Luxembourg.........2
Netherlands.........60
Portugal.............750
Poland................5
Slovakia.............12
Slovenia..............3
Spain.................272
Switzerland.........437
USA.....................0.................1
             

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on June 05, 2003, 09:18:00 AM
Some may feel very comfortable in eating animal products when they see no or little difficulty in their own country with vCJD. Let me exlain something that the world does not know, but that we do.

vCJD has been directly tied in with the Mad Cows in the UK. But, there are other forms of Mad Cow Diseas in people besides vCJD. They are known as TSEs and are found in many animals. There is a CJD that is called "sporadic". It is not seen by most in government and industry to be communicated from animal to man so there is littel concern for preventing CJD unless it is vCJD.

It is sad that the church has not been active in this area since it possess great light. The chances are very good that there is a relationship between sporadic CJD and the eating of animals and their products that are infected with s TSE.

TSEs are transmissible spongiform brain diseases in humans and animals. TSEs
are fatal, there is no way prophylaxis or of cure. Apart from scrapie which is
a well described disease in sheep and goats, five more TSEs in mammals are
known: the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in cattle, the chronic wasting
disease (CWD) in deer, the transmissible mink encephalopathy (TME), the feline
spongiform encephalopathy (FSE) in cats and another spongiform encephalopathy
in antelopes (greater kudu). Single cases of unusual TSEs were found in animals of
the London Zoo (e.g. cheetah and puma), which are thought to be due to BSE
infected feed. Another unusual case of TSE was diagnosed in an ostrich of Hanover
Zoo. A transmission to pigs was possible only experimentally, but was never
described to have happened in nature. There are four different kinds of TSEs in
humans: the Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD),
Gerstmann-Sträussler-Scheinker-Syndrome (GSS), fatal familiar insomnia and
Kuru.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Pat Caggiano on June 08, 2003, 06:15:00 PM
Robert Cohen, author of the book  MILK...The Deadly Piosion, has a web site that everyone should visit!!!!!
www.notmilk.com   and to all SDA's a GIFT
check it out
www.GodsNutritionist.com
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: WendyForsyth on June 08, 2003, 08:40:00 PM
OH PRAISE THE LORD!!!

What a wonderful man! This is so beautiful! Truly a gift. A man that has such a wide influence taking up the cause is so wondeful!Praise the Lord for people who God can use when those who have much light refuse to shine!

Amen!!!

God bless you Robert Cohen!!!

Wendy Forsyth and family

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on June 09, 2003, 10:06:00 AM
One of the differences between vCJD and sporadic CJD is the age of onset of symptoms. The cases of vCJD in the U.K. were in younger victims. CJD ages are almost always older victims being aged sixty of older. This of course does not mean the infection was at an older age, but rather the manifestation of the disease.

Now, we have two cases in the United States discovered at the same hospital in Michigan in men aged 26 and 28. There is no explanation given as to why. There is a serious problem in the U.S. We have not gotten a good report as to what is really happening. Soon it shall become obvious that the animals are so sick that the humans that eat them are at great risk.

CJD Deaths

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on June 10, 2003, 07:30:00 AM
While animals are transfering their diseases to humans, we are feeding our leftover meals back to them. Sometimes it inculdes their herd mates. They can also get the bones from their siblings from outdated dog food that has found it's way back into cattle food.

With these kinds of practices who would want to continue eating animal products?

USA Today

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dugald T Lewis MD on June 15, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
When I spoke with Robert Cohen a few weeks ago, he told me that the book on Ellen G. White will soon be available.

I am hoping that any errors in the first printing will be corrected so that the world will receive an accurate presentation of the health message. I will be working on this. He appears agreeable.  
 

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dugald T Lewis MD on July 03, 2003, 04:15:00 PM
Mad cow case could have roots in imported American cattle, says report
at 13:48 on July 3, 2003, EST.

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Cattle graze at a feedlot near Picture Butte, Alta., approximately 25 kilometres north of Lethbridge, Tuesday. (CP PHOTO/Adrian Wyld)

EDMONTON (CP) - The single case of mad cow disease that has paralysed the Canadian beef industry may have originated in cattle imported from the United States five years ago, says the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

In a final report on its investigation into the outbreak, the agency refers to an unusually large 1998 shipment of 25,000 pregnant U.S. cows who had been born before the ban was imposed on feeding animal protein back to cattle.

"Canada cannot, to date, exclude the possibility that the index case itself derived through this huge, unique importation," the report says.

Because the cows were brought in before the start of the Canadian Cattle Identification Program, those cattle lost their identification as American imports.

"There was one year where the regulation was interpreted as allowing animals to be brought directly into Canadian feedlots without testing for brucellosis and anaplasmosis," said Dr. Claude Lavigne of the food agency.

"It was interpreted as allowing sexually intact animals to come in and some of these animals did not remain in feedlots."

The report says 70 per cent to 80 per cent of those cattle were Black Angus, the same breed as the northern Alberta cow that later developed mad cow disease. The cows have long since integrated into the general Canadian population and entered the feed chain.

U.S. officials have known about the possible American connection since June 12, Lavigne said.

The report underlines the extent to which the Canadian and American cattle industries are integrated, he added.

"All of the risk elements are there and are common to both countries. If you combine that with the known fact that there has been a lot of movement across the border, you end up with very similar risk factors in both countries.

"It probably could have shown up in the U.S. and may still."

There's little chance the imported cattle could be tracked back to their American farms of origin, Lavigne said.

"The trail is cold. It would probably be close to impossible to find the exact origin of all these animals. They've lost identification on the way."

The agency is also revisiting the 1993 discovery of a mad cow infection in an Alberta bull that had recently been imported from England.

Scientists theorize that other infected cattle may have come over before the 1993 case was discovered and that low levels of bovine spongiform encephalopathy may have cycled between herds, rendering plants and feed mills until 1997 when the feed ban was enacted.

That ban does not allow feed derived from ruminants such as cows and sheep to be fed to other ruminants.

The brains from the British cows imported with the infected bull have been preserved.

"They are being reassessed to determine, with sensitive diagnostics unavailable at the time, the degree to which the BSE threat may have extended beyond the single clinical case," the report says.

Canada has also contacted British officials to see if any of the herds of origin of those imported animals have developed mad cow disease.

The federal agency all but ruled out the possibility of the mad cow infection arising from wild or domestic elk herds.

A similar ailment, called chronic wasting disease, has appeared in elk and deer in both Saskatchewan and Alberta, but no link with BSE was found.

"The possibility that they might transmit the disease directly to intensively commingling cattle has been explored, with negative results to date in protracted studies in the U.S."

The report also rules out the possibility the single Alberta case arose spontaneously.

Since the case of mad cow was discovered May 20, the borders of almost all Canada's major trading partners have been closed to Canadian beef.

Producers estimate the closures are costing them $11 million a day. The economic pain has spread to related industries and rural communities.

BOB WEBER

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dugald T Lewis MD on August 06, 2003, 07:11:00 PM
Italian Dies of Mad Cow-Linked Disease

(AP) ROME - A 27-year-old Sicilian woman died Wednesday of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (news - web sites), becoming Italy's first victim of the brain-wasting malady linked to mad cow disease, doctors said.

 

Dr. Fabrizio Tagliavini, director of the division of neuropathology of the Carlo Besta National Neurological Institute in Milan, said the patient was Italy's only diagnosed case of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.


Testing done in England confirmed the infection, he said by telephone. It was not known how the woman contracted the disease. She had been hospitalized in Milan for several months.


Experts say variant CJD appears to be contracted by eating meat tainted by bovine spongiform encephalopathy (news - web sites), or mad cow disease.


BSE (news - web sites) is believed spread by recycling meat and bones from infected animals and grounding them into cattle feed.


Earlier this week, the Italian Health Ministry said there have been 104 cases of cattle testing positive in Italy for mad cow disease. The nation detected its first case in cattle in 2001, after the European Union (news - web sites) ordered mandatory tests on cattle older than 30 months destined for slaughter.


Mad cow disease has infected cattle in much of Europe, and variant CJD has killed more than 100 people worldwide, mostly Britons.


Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Narroc on August 14, 2003, 11:52:00 PM
Susan, You seemed to have hit the nail on the head with your remarks concerning feeding animals food which contains other goundup animals. One of the reasons why I would never eat Chicken is years ago I vivted a poulty farm and saw the poor 2 days old chicks about 2000 of them in a big large shed the heating was started at 40C and slowly decreased  over time down to about 21 when they were 6weeks old. They were feed by an orgar which ran the full lenght of the shed with some sort of artifical feed which contained hormores and animal products, I have enough problems with hormores with out adding to the problem. There were several large fans in the roof to ventilate the building and I was told that early one morning the power went off and when the owner realised this and got to the shed and opened up the big doors at each end over 1/2 of the chickens had died, they were just gathered up and ground up to feed the rest.
Now if that's not enough to put one off chicken I don't what would.
God condemed cannibalism because he knew of the effects of it.
What does concern me is the people who abuse their bodies and then complain about the health system which isn't able to fix them up quick so they can carry on abusing their bodies. We had a wife here who complained her husband died in his early 40's because he couldn't get a heart operation soon enough but he had been a smoker for many years.
Self inflicked health problems.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on January 20, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
Many have wondered how their loved ones developed Ahlzeimers. Like sporadic CJD it just happens or it is the result of aluminum. No, neither of these diseases just happen. I have suspected for a long time that both diseases come from eating the flesh or products of animals with spongiform disease.

We now have found "mad cows" with lesions similar to the ones found in Ahlzeimer patients. I believe this is the evidence we needed to begin to discuss a relationship between the two. Sporadic CJD and Ahlzeimers are caused, they don't just happen without a cause. I believe we shall soon find out that they are both caused by infections from animals with a spongiform disease.

I have been looking for the evidence of such a connection for some time. Today, I believe I have found it. There are those who have been aware of this for over thirty years. It is sad that the public has not been informed.

Almost thirty years ago the Agricultural Research Council (ARC) at its meeting on October 12, 1976 stated "The USDA concluded that it could 'no longer justify or permit scrapie-blood line and scrapie-exposed sheep and goats to be processed for human or animal food at slaughter or renderng plants.' (ARC 84/77).The problem is emphasized by the finding that some strains of scrapie produce lesions identical to the ones which characterise the human dementias."

It is very interesting to note that we see here something that ought to interest us all. That the lesions in human dementia correspond to the lesions produced by scrapie is the "smoking gun" that I believe will be found to explain a cause of Ahlzeimers.

Those who have concern and love for humanity need to take this information to heart. There is no safety in eating the flesh of animals nor in eating any animal product. The government is not to be trusted when it comes to our health. They have other concerns that compete with human and animal health.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on January 20, 2005, 09:42:00 AM
Thirty years is a long time, but not as long as a hundred. In 1902 a prophet spoke and said "Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men. The time is near when, because of the iniquity of the fallen race, the whole animal creation will groan under the diseases that curse our earth."

In 1896 the same prophet said "Cancer, tumors, and all inflammatory diseases are largely caused by meat-eating. From the light which God has given me, the prevalence of cancers, and tumors is due to gross living on dead flesh. I sincerely and prayerfully hope that as a physician you will not forever be blind upon this subject. For blindness mingled with a want of moral courage to deny your appetite, to lift the cross, which means to take up the very duties that cut across the natural appetite and passion. Feeding on flesh the juices and fluids of what we eat passes into the circulation of our blood, and as we are composed of what we eat, we become animalized. Thus a feverish condition is created because the animals are diseased and by partaking of their flesh we plant the seeds of disease in our own tissue and blood. Then when exposed to the changes in a malarious atmosphere, these are more sensibly felt. Also when we are exposed to prevailing epidemics and contagious diseases, the system is not in a condition to resist the disease. I have the subject presented to me in different aspects. The mortality caused by meat-eating is not discerned. If it were, we should hear no more arguments and excuses in favor of the indulgence of the appetite for dead flesh. We have plenty of good things to satisfy hunger without bringing corpses upon our tables to compose our bill of fare. I might go on to any length upon this subject, but I will forbear."

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: WendyForsyth on January 21, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
That's the smoking gun I've been looking for Brother Richard. Thank you.

I've "Known" for years that it was the same. I couldn't prove it or explain it well. But I knew, because I believe that God impressed me with that knowledge. Now to find out that the government has known for 30 years and hidden this from people. All for the love of money? Boy will they have alot to answer for.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on January 21, 2005, 04:47:00 AM
It is sad, but the light that God has given has not blessed the world as it should have. Many reject it and not only eat eggs, milk, and animal products in processed foods, but still eat the flesh of animals. Cancer is rampant and spread from animal to man. The sickness in animals is much greater than most believe.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: JimB on March 30, 2005, 07:12:00 AM
Apparently the taste of beef is worth the chance to these people in Japan to want our beef exported to them. Here is the story. Beef-Bowl Fans Demand U.S. Imports
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 23, 2005, 06:38:00 AM
Mad cows didn't just happen. Man contributed to the problem with how they cared for their animals.

Here is an example that few know about. What is food for baby cows? That's right, cow milk. What have ranchers been feeding their calves? Milk "extracts" with the cream removed. Since this milk is deficient it has to be supplemented with grease from cattle. Where do you suppose the grease comes from? Really smart! Especially today.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Liane H on April 23, 2005, 08:35:00 AM
We have a baby lamb that is named Willow. She was rejected by her mom. We started her on Land-o-Lakes lamb milk replacer. Within the ingredients is the following:

animal fat (preserved with ethoxyquin.)
Animal sterol (source of vitamin D3.)

The sorry state is all the types of milk replacers use animal fat, there is nothing we can do about it.

She will never be sold as she is a pet, so she will never be eaten either.

Liane, the Zoo Mama  

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: David MD on May 02, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
"Feds probing alleged mad cow cover-up"
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20050429-020831-9428r

Can the cattle men cover-up the cover-up story -we will soon see.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 03, 2005, 09:09:00 AM
The multi-billion dollar meat industry is very powerful. But, sooner or later the truth will be known and some of those who knew and said nothing, or worse actively covered up, will be seen to have caused a great disaster. For over  one hundred years light has come to the world in regards to the dangers of eating the flesh of animals. It is so very sad to think of the little ones who are and will suffer on account of the selfishness of man.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: WendyForsyth on May 03, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
It's not just fat put in the baby cow's formula (it's not milk that's for sure), it's blood. They put animal blood directly into the formula to supplement what it lacks nutritionally. Supposedly.

But now all the hens are coming to roost.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 16, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
Do you trust government when it comes to "mad cow" disease? The father of Britain's youngest CJD victim is accusing medical authorities of a seven-year conspiracy to hide the fact that his son had been a blood donor.

Daily Mail

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Sherwin on May 16, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
I think it is hard for the goverement to cover up anything in this day and age. The media has a way of outing anything and everything. If there really were loads of people getting mad cow, as some have speculated, the media would catch on to it pretty fast.

RichardS

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 16, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
Since Sunday really is a hoax and milk really is full of leukemia virus, why doesn't the media report it? What a story!  They don't for the same reason the doctors don't report the problems with drugs and meat. They are not willing to change their behavior to correspond to the truth. Most in the media are liberal and they allow their personal beliefs to sway what and how they report the news.

Seven years is a long time to have been exposed to CJD and to not be told.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Bill Wennell on May 17, 2005, 07:13:00 AM
While it is true that in this day and age it is hard to truly cover-up anything, it is also true that you can keep it out of the limelight. Madcow is an excellent example! I work for the USDA, I work in a place that slaughters cattle. How many tests have I done for madcow? "0", zero, zilch, none, nada (get the picture?). Even I have to dig for the madcow facts, yes - they are scattered all over the internet, but the government does their best to keep it that way so only if you are digging with you come up with the right facts. My father would always argue with me over the "facts" of such things. Where was he getting his information? Nightly news! Where was I getting mine? Investigative studies! You Want facts? You have to know where to go to get them, they don't just fall into your lap (unless God brings them to you because He wants you to know, but if you want to live in ignorance, He allows you that luxury as well).

Madcow has been here in the US since at least 1985 (FACT - see my other posts in the madcow areas).

Madcow is probably the biggest cover-up in US history since the beef/dairy industry is a multi-billion dollar subject.

The USDA is incredibly ignorant (and the US public incredibly naive) to be so inconsistant in it's treatment of BSE (example: prions aren't transmitted in the blood (USDA says) but in reality there have been cases of vCJD (madcow in people) transmitted by blood transfusion (FACT)).

Why won't the USDA allow plants to test animals when they want to?????? This is the cream of the cake issue, there are plants that would test cattle to help sales, especially overseas but the USDA controls the reagents and will NOT allow them to do so! Incredible?!?

And yet there is no cover-up?

Wow, that's even so incredible, it's unbelieveable!

Also, the VA did a study in Pittsburg, PA (check the other BSE posts, or e-mail me for the website) where it was determined that at least 15% of Ahlzheimer's deaths were in fact vCJD deaths. Ahlzheimer patients are usually NOT autopsied, and without proper testing the physical results would look (and therefore be diagnosed) the same. What's 15% of all the ahlzheimers deaths in the uS come to? Just a thought!

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Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on August 14, 2005, 06:45:00 AM
We have been pointing out that "sporadic" CJD is caused it just does not happen as has been suggested. Its cause is the same as the "variant" CJD, infection from other animals or humans. Science is beginning to see this important truth.

The Department of Pathology at the University of Edinburgh, Western General Hospital, UK. has a case that highlights possible difficulties in the differential diagnosis of vCJD and the more rare sCJD subtypes based on molecular features alone. Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (sCJD) is described in a young Dutch protein prion gene (PRNP) codon 129 valine homozygote. Certain clinical and molecular features of this case overlap those of variant CJD.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Curt on September 03, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
Theory: Mad Cow May Have Come From Humans
September 2, 2005

LONDON (AP) -- A new theory proposes that mad cow disease may have come from feeding British cattle meal contaminated with human remains infected with a variation of the disease.

The hypothesis, outlined this week in The Lancet medical journal, suggests the infected cattle feed came from the Indian subcontinent, where bodies sometimes are ceremonially thrown into the Ganges River.

Indian experts not connected with the research pointed out weaknesses in the theory but agreed it should be investigated.

The cause of the original case or cases of mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is unknown, but it belongs to a class of illnesses called transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, or TSEs.

Such illnesses exist in several species. Scrapie is a TSE that affects sheep and goats, while chronic wasting disease afflicts elk and deer. A handful of TSEs are found in humans, including Kuru, Alper's disease and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, or CJD.

All TSEs are fatal, untreatable and undiagnosable until after death. They are called spongiform encephalopathies because the diseases involve spongy degeneration of the brain.

The disease was not known to infect cows until 1986, when the first cases were noticed in Britain. About a decade later, a new permutation of CJD, which scientists dubbed variant CJD, started showing up in people there. Experts believe this new variant came from eating beef products infected with mad cow disease.

But where the cows got the disease remains a mystery.

The most popular theory is that cattle, which are vegetarian, were fed meal containing sheep remains, passing scrapie from sheep to cows, where it eventually evolved into a cow-specific disease. Another theory is that cows just developed the disease spontaneously, without catching it from another species.

However, a pair of British scientists now proposes the origin may be the bones of people infected with classical CJD, which they theorize ended up in cattle feed imported from South Asia.

Britain imported hundreds of thousands of tons of whole bones, crushed bones and carcass parts to be used for fertilizer and animal feed during the 1960s and 1970s. Nearly half of that came from Bangladesh, India and Pakistan, said the scientists, led by Alan Colchester, a professor of neuroscience at the University of Kent in England.

"In India and Pakistan, gathering large bones and carcasses from the land and from rivers has long been an important local trade for peasants," the scientists wrote. "Collectors encounter considerable quantities of human as well as animal remains as a result of religious customs."

Hindus believe remains should be disposed of in a river, preferably the Ganges.

"The ideal is for the body to be burned, but most people cannot afford enough wood for a full cremation. ... Many complete corpses are thrown into the river," the scientists said, adding that the inclusion of human remains in animal bone material exported from the Indian subcontinent has been documented.

Britain was the main recipient of animal byproducts exported from India and Pakistan during the relevant period and was also a leader in feeding meat and bone meal to calves, they noted.

Finally, the similarities between the strains -- mad cow disease, classical CJD and variant CJD -- are sufficiently close to support the theory of a link among them, the authors argued.

"We do not claim that our theory is proved, but it unquestionably warrants further investigation," the scientists wrote.

Indian neuroscientists Susarla Shankar and P. Satishchandra of the National Institute of Mental Health and Neurosciences in Bangalore, India, agreed the theory needs to be followed up, but urged caution.

"Scientists must proceed cautiously when hypothesizing about a disease that has such wide geographical, cultural and religious implications," they wrote in a critique published in the journal.

Relatives of people who die of suspected CJD are persuaded to bury their dead or cremate them, the two said. In most hospital-related deaths, bodies are not taken to Varanasi, the holy city on the banks of the Ganges, but cremated or buried nearer to home.

"Even in Varanasi, most Hindus do not put half-burnt bodies into the river," they wrote, adding that if bodies found in the Ganges did have CJD, there should have been a major epidemic of the disease in north India.

"Facts to support or refute their hypothesis now need to be gathered with urgency and great care," the Indian scientists said.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Sherwin on September 07, 2005, 06:24:00 PM
WASHINGTON - The government is easing rules intended to prevent the spread of mad cow disease among people, allowing part of a cow's small intestine to be used as casing for some sausages.

Complete story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050908/ap_on_he_me/mad_cow_2

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Bill Wennell on September 12, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12593

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Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 05, 2005, 12:12:00 PM
There is advance being made in the discovery of animal diseases being contracted by humans when they eat their flesh, milk, and eggs. The bright area of study from my perspective is with alhzeimers. Few see any relationship, but the evidence is there for the finding.

I posted this earlier this year and in the light of what I found yesterday I think it advantageous for those who are interested in this subject to review it. I will then share the new information I discovered that ties in.

1-20-2005 10:40 AM    

Many have wondered how their loved ones developed Ahlzeimers. Like sporadic CJD it just happens or it is the result of aluminum. No, neither of these diseases just happen. I have suspected for a long time that both diseases come from eating the flesh or products of animals with spongiform disease.

We now have found "mad cows" with lesions similar to the ones found in Ahlzeimer patients. I believe this is the evidence we needed to begin to discuss a relationship between the two. Sporadic CJD and Ahlzeimers are caused, they don't just happen without a cause. I believe we shall soon find out that they are both caused by infections from animals with a spongiform disease.

I have been looking for the evidence of such a connection for some time. Today, I believe I have found it. There are those who have been aware of this for over thirty years. It is sad that the public has not been informed.

Almost thirty years ago the Agricultural Research Council (ARC) at its meeting on October 12, 1976 stated "The USDA concluded that it could 'no longer justify or permit scrapie-blood line and scrapie-exposed sheep and goats to be processed for human or animal food at slaughter or renderng plants.' (ARC 84/77).The problem is emphasized by the finding that some strains of scrapie produce lesions identical to the ones which characterise the human dementias."

It is very interesting to note that we see here something that ought to interest us all. That the lesions in human dementia correspond to the lesions produced by scrapie is the "smoking gun" that I believe will be found to explain a cause of Ahlzeimers.

Those who have concern and love for humanity need to take this information to heart. There is no safety in eating the flesh of animals nor in eating any animal product. The government is not to be trusted when it comes to our health. They have other concerns that compete with human and animal health.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 05, 2005, 12:38:00 PM
These lesions are amyloid plaques. Where else have they been found? How about dogs who have doggy dementia. Researchers say that deposits of beta-amyloid plaques in brain tissues are likely to play a role in canine cognitive dysfunction syndrome (CDS). These plaques build up and eventually inhibit transmission of the brain’s neural signals.  Science Central  These plaques appear to be similar to those found in some cows with BSE and the sheep with scrapie.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 05, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
What's the problem?

Sheep with Scrapie have been eaten for many years. You see Scrapie is said to not be a problem for humans who eat these diseased sheep. Interesting that the public does not hear anything from anyone about this danger.

The day will soon come when the public will find out about these things. Good to know that the church is doing its job of spreading the light God has given regarding the dangers of eating animals and their products.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 05, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
And...do we all remember how it is that the cattle in England are believed to have come down with Mad Cow Disease? It is commonly believed that the cows got the disease from eating dead sheep infected with scrapie.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 05, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
And not only is their evidence that suggests Alzheimer's may be related to spongiform disease, but we find more evidence to suggest that sporadic CJD is not sporadic at all, but caused from eating animals that have spongiform disease.

Experiments have confirmed earlier findings that the BSE and vCJD prions are closely similar. However, in a mouse experiment scientists were surprised to see that while some of the mice developed a disease pattern closely similar to human vCJD, others produced a pattern like a form of sporadic (classical) CJD.  The data suggests that some cases of apparently sporadic CJD in the UK and elsewhere where people have been exposed to BSE prions may in fact be caused by BSE.
MRC

So...in countries like the U.S. who think they do not have a problem with diseased animals causing "mad cow" disease (CJD) in people, they need to re-think their position. Again, we are thankful that we do not have to guess about what to eat and not eat. God is good to send us light regarding the transmission of disease from animals and their products to man.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 18, 2005, 08:32:00 AM
What if my thoughts on CJD prove to be correct and sporadic CJD comes from eating animals with spongiform disease? What does this mean to the ordinary person? It means that they will live with the very real possiblity of already having been infected with the CJD disease. Not only them, but their children. It will be an epidemic. And...it may already be seen if it proves out that Alzheimer's is tied to CJD.

I continue to seek for the scientific evidence to prove this theory of mine. Today, I have found a little more that will move the inquiring mind in the right direction.  From the Lancet Neurology 2005; 4:805-814.

"We studied 114 brain samples from 70 patients with sporadic CJD and three patients with variant CJD. Every patient classified as CJD type 2, and all variant CJD patients, showed POM2/POM12 reactivity in the cerebellum and other PrPSc-rich brain areas, with a typical PrPSc type 1 migration pattern."

What does this mean? It means that some are beginning to question the basis for current CJD classification. It is the proof that we needed to say that sporadic CJD is not that different from vCJD. And, it is very possible that differing strains of BSE that manifest differing patterns will cause CJD. Or that sheep spongiform, Scrapie, or Mink Encephelopathy, or Chronic Wasting Disease may infect humans and cause what has been called "sporadic CJD." The disease does not just happen, it is caused and the most likely cause is the eating of animal products from diseased animals.

If this proves to be true, the human population will be infected to a degree never realized before. The incubation period of CJD can vary considerably. Which means that people that are in their sixties may have been infected 40 or 50 years ago. Or, as in the UK, it may be of a much shorter duration with young people dying from CJD.

One last reminder, there is a very good chance that Alzheimer's is related to this disease also. Remember that upon death around 5% of Alzheimer's patients are diagnosed with CJD. And, remember also that amyloyd plaques similar to Alzheimer's has been found in BSE infected cows in Italy. And, also that these amiloyd plaques were discovered in Scrapie infected sheep many years ago.

The evidence is beginning to grow. Maybe somewhere along the line someone will say something rather profound. Sadly too few have the knowledge they need to protect their families. Who will tell them?

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Sherwin on November 19, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
While I suppose that Alzheimer's could be caused in some way by the consumption of animal products I think it is safe to say that the disease is at least somewhat hereditary. I know it runs in my mother's family. Now it could be that animal products cause the disease and hereditary factors make some more susceptible than others. (Of course that could apply to any disease) While my mother had been a vegetarian for over 60 years before succumbing to Alzheimer's last week she was not vegan until the last 5 or 6 years of her life. Very few SDA's who grew up on farms were vegetarian much less vegans. They ate what they raised, whether it be vegetables, eggs or whatever.

Another thing about Alzheimer's is that years ago people would not live long enough to be as effected by it as much as they are now, and then of course way back when it was just called dementia, as were most diseases of the mind that were predominantly in older people.

RichardS

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 29, 2005, 07:44:00 AM
Yes, Brother Sherwin, heredity plays a part in our ability to resist disease. There are indeed faults in our genetic makeup that make us more susceptible to certain diseases. And, there are children born with the infectious agent already in the system. We will find that God has created us in a very remarkable way and works through His laws to keep us healthy.  All die from something. This is a result of sin. What God wants is for us to allow Christ into our hearts so that we might have power to live according to His laws. This will help us to live a more healthful, joyous, and lengthy life.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 29, 2005, 08:03:00 AM
Being a strict vegetarian is not good enough if want to have the best of health. It is only one of many laws that we need to learn about and work into our lives.

Today the minutes from the UK's SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY ADVISORY COMMITTEE (SEAC) September meeting were released. It will be informative for some who are reading along here to note the concern with "fertiser". It may be that you have provided the very best diet for your family with vegetables grown in a home garden. In wanting to do the very best, you have have added bone meal or a fertilizer with bone meal in it. We have reached the point in this world's history where we must consider more carefully what we do in regards to what we eat and how it is grown. We cannot cover all the bases, but we have a God who will. We just need to be educated and do all that we can.

From the minutes of the meeting: "There are
no EU approved rendering plants in India permitted to produce meat and bone meal for use in fertiliser in the EU."

Why the concern about meat and bone meal in India? Because it is considered by some a possibility that human bones may have ended up in meat and bone meal. So what? If the humans had a spongiform disease it could contaminate the foods grown in the meat and bone meal fertilizer. It seems the British are more concerned about protecting their people from this disease now that it is killing people in their country.

How are the infected animals in the U.S. and other countries disposed of? How do you get rid of these infected prions? Very high temperature incineration. In other words there is no safety in using bone meal from animals which may be infected. How about using dung? I don't think so. What animals are not infected by spongiform disease? I don't think anyone really knows. It seems likely that all mammals are open to this infectious disease. It does not just happen, it is caused.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on December 22, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
The Japanese government lifted a ban on imports of U.S. and Canadian beef last week. Here is an interesting article from Japan where they test each cow for BSE after slaughter.   Japan Times
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on June 11, 2006, 06:23:00 PM
Now that two home grown cows have been confirmed to have BSE in the US you would think that people might be concerned. But, it appears that most continue eating cows anyway. The USDA continues to express their confidence that there is no problem with the safety of meat.

We now have an interesting situation since the American cows do not have the same strain of BSE as did the European and Canadian cows. While there have been a few in Europe with this strain, most had the variant type (vBSE).

Here is a comment that ought to wake up those that are asleep. "A more common form of CJD — not linked to mad cow — can happen spontaneously and is reported in nearly 300 people in the U.S. each year. This form occurs mostly in older people; the average age at death is 68. Some scientists are raising the possibility that the atypical strain also might happen spontaneously in cattle."   Dallas News

"Spontaneously" is a code word for no cause. Which means you can continue to eat "mad cows" since they do not cause "spontaneous" CJD. But, there is a problem here. If it is true that these mad cows in the US just get the disease without any cause, then how can the industry ever make their meat safe? No one is going to want to eat a mad cow even if it is only "spontaneous" Mad Cow Disease.

The day is fast coming when the USDA and the meat industry will have to pay the piper. The connection between human CJD, Alzheimer's, and sick animals cannot be kept a secret much longer.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Sherwin on June 11, 2006, 08:31:00 PM
Weather it is kept a secret or not does anyone really think the general public will change their habits? People continue to smoke, not wear their seat belts, have unsafe sex, drink, over eat, etc even though they know it's not the smartest thing to do.

All we as SDA's can do is keep on with the warnings and hope at least some heed them.

Brother Sherwin

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on June 11, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
You are so right, Brother Sherwin. Most will not stop eating meat. It takes a Saviour for most to change their appetites. That is why so many cannot change their appetites, they have no real living relationship with Jesus.

But, the harvest field is white and those who will change their diet will make very good Christians. They may even become Christians in order that they can change their habits. They may want to keep eating steak, but when they contemplate the risk to their children, some will reconsider.

And, enough will either stop or cut back that the meat industry will suffer. It will be very sad because it will be very hurtful to a lot of people. Today would be a good time to get out of the cattle and dairy business.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: SA on February 08, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
RECALLS AND FIELD CORRECTIONS: VETERINARY MEDICINE -- CLASS II

______________________________
PRODUCT
Bulk Darling's 85% Blood Meal, Flash Dried, distributed in totes and in 1-ton bags (for one customer only), Recall # V-012-2007
CODE
Blood meal distributed between 9/7/2006-2/3/2007.
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Darling National LLC, Omaha, NB, by telephone on January 12, 2007. Firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
Some of the exempt bovine blood meal was cross-contaminated with prohibited bovine meat and bone meal that had been manufactured on common equipment and the labeling did not bear the cautionary BSE statement that it should not be fed to ruminants.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
1,366,128 lbs.
DISTRIBUTION
WI, TX, NE, TN, CO, and MN

END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 7, 2007
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What's the concern?

Blood meal is a specified risk material for Mad Cow Disease. It is a high risk to humans as well as cows. If you use blood meal, beware. And if you feed your pets food with blood meal, beware.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Sister Marie on February 08, 2007, 10:10:00 PM
Could this be in dog food as well, maybe under a different name, or in bread under a different name?

Here is some information I came across.

BLOOD MEAL, WHOLE
Description

Whole blood meal is produced by spray drying at low temperatures, the fresh whole blood from animal processing plants. The fresh blood is collected in on-site cooling tanks that utilize agitation to prevent coagulation of the fresh blood. Once delivered to the drying plants the whole blood is centrifuged to remove foreign material and then circulated through a disintegrator to rid all remaining foreign particles prior to spray drying.

Typical Analysis

Crude protein 80 %
Crude fat 1 %
Crude fiber 1 %
Ruminant digestible protein 63.1 %

Typical Amino Acid Profile

Methionine  1.0 %
Crystine  1.4 %
Lysine  6.9 %
Tryptophane 1.0 %
Isoleucine 0.8 %
Histidine  3.05 %
Valine 5.2 %
Leucine  10.3 %
Arginine 2.35 %
Glycine 4.4 %

Storage and Handling

Whole blood meal is available in bags or as bulk material. Whole blood meal is packaged in 50 pound poly-lined paper bags.

Caution:  Any recommendations given here should be considered as general only and may not apply in your specific situation.  All final recommendations should be made by a qualified person familiar with your particular circumstances.

Blood meal
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Blood meal is dried, powdered blood used as a high-nitrogen fertilizer. It is one of the highest non-synthetic sources of nitrogen and if over-applied it can burn plants with excessive ammonia. Blood meal is completely soluble and can be mixed with water to be used as a liquid fertilizer. It usually comes from cattle as a slaughterhouse by-product. It may also be spread on gardens to deter animals such as rabbits, or as a compost activator.

Blood meal, bone meal, and other animal by-products are permitted in certified organic production as soil amendments, though they cannot be fed to organic livestock. In the United States, fear of BSE (mad cow disease) and the related Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease prompted Demeter International—which certifies Biodynamic farms—to completely prohibit the use of bone meal and blood meal, since these could be avenues of infection for BSE.

Blood meal is different from bone meal in that blood meal contains nitrogen, while bone meal contains phosphorous.

Nitrogen is more typically missing from soils than the other elements provided by most fertilizers (phosporous and potassium). Plants grown in soil lacking proper amounts of nitrogen will yellow from the leaves down. Applying blood meal will help plants become green again.

Experts soothe worries about using bone, blood meal
January 7, 2004 The Oregonian by Kym Pokorny

http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/fertilizer1804.cfm

More discussion

http://ufbir.ifas.ufl.edu/chap31.htm

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Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Liane H on February 09, 2007, 04:02:00 AM
Not sure how they are labeling it on the bottles, but apparently calcium tablets are primarily made from bone meal for both humans and animals.

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Liane, the Zoo Mama
Romans 8:19   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Esther 7 on February 22, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
Testing for mad cow is being cancelled. The one and only testing facility in Washington State is being closed.

The Seattle Times had a front page article that stated not a single person in the United States has ever contracted Mad Cow disease.

Is there anyone who can do the research and correct the error for this newspaper?

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 05, 2007, 09:10:00 PM
Japan will check all processed meats imported from the United States after a shipment was found last week with sausages containing beef in violation of regulations aimed at containing mad cow disease, an official said Monday. source

Question: Why does Japan refuse meat that Americans are willing to buy and eat?

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: JimB on March 06, 2007, 05:59:00 AM
 
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Myers:
Question: Why does Japan refuse meat that Americans are willing to buy and eat?

Because they are smarter than we are. I'm assuming also that since they are this careful that they know the process of how our meat is or is not inspected. Just a guess.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 06, 2007, 07:30:00 AM
That's it. They test every one of their own cows for Mad Cow, we test very few. They know that Americans are eating diseased cows. They don't want them. Americans have been willingly deceived.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Liane H on March 06, 2007, 10:13:00 AM
Hi Brother Jim:

Also they like to eat our horses where they is not cases of a form of Mad Cow Diseases as of yet and others and myself are trying to stop this killing of horses for food.

There are only three plants in the United States, two in California, one in Illinois, I think or Indiana and Canada.

All horses no matter where around the United States are shipped to these slaughter houses from auctions around the country.

The shipping itself is terrible, no less the killing of them after they get there.

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Liane, the Zoo Mama
Romans 8:19   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Esther 7 on March 06, 2007, 01:44:00 PM
Some excellent horse friendly bills were passed recently, I just don't have all the information with me.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Liane H on March 06, 2007, 02:49:00 PM
I knew they were on the floor, but did not know if they had been voted on yet.

They have to go through both houses so I am not sure where it is presently.

Now if there are two of the same bill with different wording, then they both go to a committee to make it into one bill and then it goes to the President to vote or veto the bill.

Will do some checking myself and thanks for sharing as horses are very important to me.

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Liane, the Zoo Mama
Romans 8:19   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 06, 2007, 07:14:00 PM
I think we have a topic for horse exports. It would be good if those who are interested could have this information.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: JimB on March 08, 2007, 08:08:00 AM
This is an interesting development. It is sad that they are not sticking to their quarantine.  
quote:
S. Korea to Relax U.S. Beef Quarantines

South Korea said Thursday that it will lower its quarantine standards this month over banned bone fragments in American beef shipments, paving the way for the nation to resume U.S. beef imports.

South Korea _ once America's third-largest overseas beef market _ notified the United States of the plan during negotiations in Washington on Tuesday, and the U.S. did not oppose it, South Korea's Agriculture Ministry said in a statement.

South Korea agreed to resume imports of U.S. beef last year following a three-year ban triggered by fears of mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

Full Article


Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 08, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
I am sure there was a lot of political pressure put upon S. Korea to resume imports.
Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 21, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
From today's FDA recall notice.

Enforcement Report

The FDA Enforcement Report is published weekly by the Food and Drug Administration, Department of Health and Human Services. It contains information on actions taken in connection with agency Regulatory activities


PRODUCT
Bulk cattle feed made with recalled Darling’s 85% Blood Meal, Flash Dried, Recall # V-024-2007
CODE
Cattle feed delivered between 01/12/2007 and 01/26/2007
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Pfeiffer, Arno, Inc, Greenbush, WI. by conversation on February 5, 2007. Firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
Blood meal used to make cattle feed was recalled because it was cross-contaminated with prohibited bovine meat and bone meal that had been manufactured on common equipment and labeling did not bear cautionary BSE statement.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
42,090 lbs.
DISTRIBUTION
WI

___________________________________
PRODUCT
Custom dairy premix products: MNM ALL PURPOSE Pellet, HILLSIDE/CDL Prot-Buffer Meal, LEE, M.-CLOSE UP PX Pellet, HIGH DESERT/ GHC LACT Meal, TATARKA, M CUST PROT Meal, SUNRIDGE/CDL PROTEIN Blend, LOURENZO, K PVM DAIRY Meal, DOUBLE B DAIRY/GHC LAC Mineral, WEST PIONT/GHC CLOSEUP Mineral, WEST POINT/GHC LACT Meal, JENKS, J/COMPASS PROTEIN Meal, COPPINI – 8# SPECIAL DAIRY Mix, GULICK, L-LACT Meal (Bulk), TRIPLE J – PROTEIN/LACTATION, ROCK CREEK/GHC MILK Mineral, BETTENCOURT/GHC S.SIDE MK-MN, BETTENCOURT #1/GHC MILK MINR, V&C DAIRY/GHC LACT Meal, VEENSTRA, F/GHC LACT Meal, SMUTNY, A-BYPASS ML W/SMARTA, Recall # V-025-2007
CODE
The firm does not utilize a code - only shipping documentation with commodity and weights identified.
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Rangen, Inc, Buhl, ID, by letters on February 13 and 14, 2007. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON

March 21 2007 Products manufactured from bulk feed containing blood meal that was cross contaminated with prohibited meat and bone meal and the labeling did not bear cautionary BSE statement.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
9,997,976 lbs.
DISTRIBUTION
ID and NV

END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR MARCH 21, 2007

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 21, 2007, 07:44:00 PM
The recalls were for product that could have been fed to cows and sheep. No problem if the food goes to your pig, dog, cat, fish, or you. It cannot go to cows and sheep.

Interesting. Now what was that material that they used to feed to cows and sheep? Do they still feed cows to cows?

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 10, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
Seven French doctors were ordered on Tuesday to stand trial over the deaths of 110 teens who developed Creutzfelt-Jakob Disease (CJD) after taking growth hormones in the 1980s, court officials said.

In one of France's most serious health scandals the victims, most of them children suffering from stunted growth, are thought to have developed the brain-wasting disease after being given contaminated hormones.

source

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on October 05, 2007, 09:16:00 PM
 South Korea suspended U.S. beef imports today after inspectors reportedly found a recent shipment contained bone that is banned due to concerns over mad cow disease.

The Agriculture Ministry said two vertebrae segments were found in one box of meat in an 18.5-ton shipment from the U.S. that arrived last week. Vertebrae are among parts — also including skulls and eyes — believed at risk of carrying the brain-wasting disease.

"The ministry suspended inspections of all U.S.-produced beef and asked the U.S. government to immediately halt sending any shipments," it said in a statement. source

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on October 11, 2007, 11:16:00 AM
Deceptions abound in the world today. We war not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in high places. Well....Satan sure can use flesh and blood to deceive. Most humans are in a state of self deception, but they are indeed helped along by those who are more concerned about the success of industry and continuing their own perverted lifestyle than they are about the health and lives of their own children.

Remember Mr. Gummer in England when the government was telling the people it was safe to eat cow meat? We remember he was the one who in order to squash any fear the public had about Mad Cow Disease infecting humans, had his young daughter eat a hamburger for the news reporters.

"A family friend of John Gummer, the former Agriculture Minister who in 1990 tried to show that beef was safe by encouraging his 4-year-old child to eat a hamburger in front of the cameras, has died from the human form of 'mad cow' disease.

Elizabeth Smith, 23, a student from St Margaret South Elmham, Suffolk, died from variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) on October 4, three years after becoming ill." source

She would have been six years old at the time Mr. Gummer and friends were telling the world it is safe to eat mad cows. And, even her father is still telling the world it is safe to eat meat.   :(  I wonder how many who have had great light are refusing to believe it is no longer safe to eat animals, their milk, and eggs?  I am so sorry for the little ones who have to follow in their parents footsteps. God have mercy on those who have been shown and refuse to believe.

Title: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on October 11, 2007, 11:22:00 AM
We did a television interview just after Mr. Gummer was attempting to convince the world to eat sick cows, in which we revealed the truth about the dangers of not only Mad Cow Disease, but from milk infected with Bovine Leukemia Virus. We will be moving TRO to a new site soon and then we will have video clips from that interview to share online. God has given His people warning as to what happens before it happens. We did our part, but many in the church do not spread the light and one day will face some very angry people who will say "Why did you not tell us!!!"
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 03, 2007, 10:00:37 PM
Ever feel that when someone is trying to do good that there are others standing in the way? The Japanese are trying to protect their people from Mad Cows, but there are some who are going to force Mad Cows down their throats. It is very sad. Here is the USDA acting head telling the world how it is. (Japan tests every one of its own cows for Mad Cow Disease, but the US refuses to do so.) I have highlighted the important statements in red.


     Transcript of Questions and Answers: Acting Agriculture Secretary Chuck Conner with Media After U.S. Meat Export Federation Remarks
     Washington D.C., October 29, 2007
     

Q: -- partners in Korea? Is that what you said?

SEC. CONNER: Well, as you guys know we had a trade delegation that's spent the better part of a couple of weeks traveling to five different countries I believe in Asia. We had heard some concern that perhaps, there was concern that we were focused on Japan and Korea and not pushing others. And we wanted to send a strong message that we expect all of our international trading partners to trade in beef and all our beef products according to international OIE standards. So this was an important mission, not only to continue our efforts with Japan and Korea, but at the same time to reach out to those other countries who, as well, are expected to trade according to those standards.

A delegation was over there for a couple of weeks. They are back I believe as of yesterday. In fact they have returned, so I've not had the opportunity to sit down and be fully briefed, but some of what they report is that there has been some progress made in those countries, that there's been expression of some interest in moving towards international standards. We're going to follow up obviously on these things because again we do expect all of Asia and all of our international trading partners to trade according to these standards, and we're not in any way changing that, and just believe that's the only way you're going to have reasonable trade in beef around the globe is according to those standards.

REPORTER: Which, countries showed interest?

REPORTER: -- over the weekend it was revealed that the Topps beef was sourced out of Canada. Can you explain what that will mean in terms of import food safety working group recommendations and any new recommendations coming out of USDA plus the trade implications?

SEC. CONNER: Well, let me just say, Sally, the comment I'll have on that is obviously we worked very, very closely with CFIA from the beginning. We've had such a great working relationship throughout all our beef issues with Canada, with the Canadian government, the CFIA in particular. You know, they had been more than cooperative with us in terms of tracking down this material and sourcing this plant that has been identified. I'm confident that working with Canada we're going to continue to work through these issues and get this resolved at this point. So that's all I'll say.

REPORTER: -- international trade expand, (unclear) safety of U.S. beef, or I should say the safety of beef consumed by Americans?

SEC. CONNER: Well, Chuck, you've heard me say on numerous occasions I believe our food supply is safe, our beef supply is safe. We've had this circumstance for this one particular case that has led to a sizeable recall. I think we've openly identified with you issues that came about as a result of that particular recall that we have put in place several changes that we felt strengthened our own system that we have in place. And those changes will enable us to move much more quickly on a recall than perhaps what our guidelines would have allowed us to do in the past.

We're going to continue to look and analyze this situation, again to make sure we have the absolute best system in place for protection of our consumers. Most of that you've seen already in terms of the announcements that came out of FSIS shortly after the major recall was issued for the product coming out of New Jersey.

REPORTER: Sir, (unclear) Prime Minister (unclear) be in town meeting with President (unclear). What is your expectation with regards to the beef issue?

SEC. CONNER: Well, again, the president on numerous occasions has stated to our trading partners and to the Japanese and Koreans in particular that he expects our beef producers in the United States to be able to trade beef internationally according to OIE standards. International, science-based standards. And the President has been personally involved in making this case. We appreciate his personal involvement in making that case, and I am certain that this is going to be underscored again with the Japanese that we expect, as they have indicated before, that they are willing to move forward to trade according to those international standards, international standards that will ensure that Japanese consumers not only have access to beef but have access to a very, very safe beef supply. And again I would expect the President to underscore that.

REPORTER: When you started did you expect it would be almost November and we'd still be dealing with opening markets with Japan?

SEC. CONNER: Well, I won't comment on that directly, but obviously it reflects the frustration that we've got at this point. It's been too long, Alan. I'll just say that. It's been simply too long. We are frustrated. We are going to continue to press this point, press again for full OIE compliance. And we appreciate the work of our trade experts the last couple of weeks to make this case on many, many points around the globe. And as I have indicated, we will be reporting perhaps some progress, but a lot more needs to be done. We're frustrated. It's time to get this issue behind us.

REPORTER: Despite OIE guidelines, international guidelines, have you gotten – is Japan still set in only wanting to accept beef of under 30-month-age cattle, not accept culled cattle?

SEC. CONNER: Well, the Japanese can state their own position. Our position with the Japanese is, they have agreed to live by international standards. And international standards are not 30 month and younger animals. International standards in Japan would allow us to trade all products from all age cattle into that country. And that's what we expect Japan to do because that's what they have agreed to do by being a part of this international body.

REPORTER: Mr. Secretary, on the Peru Free Trade Agreement you'd expressed some hope about this month. Have any congressional leaders indicated when they might be moving on that?

SEC. CONNER: I'm not aware of what they are saying in terms of the timing of that. Again, obviously they come out of both committees with strong votes, strong bipartisan votes I might add, and so we'd expect them to move forward on this very quickly. We are going to continue to press for rapid adoption of that particular agreement as well as the other three going forward.

REPORTER: On beef again, had you talked to the Asian countries about going to the SPS Committee in Geneva about, with the complaint or at least the discussion within the committee?

SEC. CONNER: I have not had any discussions in that regard. Again, we're going to continue to make the case for these international standards, and we just expect those countries who have agreed to live by these standards, expect others in terms of trading of their products, to live by international standards, to say simply, "We're a part of this body, we're a part of the international body; this is what we have agreed to trade by, this is how we expect others to treat us. Therefore, this is how we're going to treat U.S. beef."

We're frustrated. You know, we're going to continue to press that point. And next steps, we'll have to see, but we're going to continue to press that point as again we have in the last two weeks with this high level delegation that has been to the five different Asian countries.

REPORTER: Different topic. Anything new from the wild fires as far as crop damage? What's USDA been finding out?

SEC. CONNER: Well, obviously, in terms of crop damage we need to get an assessment of that at this point. As you might expect, the last several days we have been focusing on full containment of the fire. Under Secretary Mark Rey reported on that this morning in our sub cabinet meeting. Most of the fires are in the 90 percent containment category. That's not to say there might not be one or two that aren't there, but we made a lot of progress in the last three days since the wind died down.

I will tell you as well, obviously those same people in our fire center are watching the weather maps very, very closely because there is some talk about later in the week some form of Santa Anta winds picking up again, in which case if there are any fires remaining at that point that could be problematic. So this is an ongoing, fluid situation. But in the last few days as we've been able to get our full deployment in the air and on the ground, we've made a great deal of headway.

REPORTER: So may I go back to the beef issue? So that you mentioned that, so that some of the nations are interested in moving into the OIE standards. I'm just wondering, which countries show that?

SEC. CONNER: Well, in terms of this trip I'll be having more to say about that at a later point. I'll just again report as I said in my remarks in here that we feel like we have made some progress towards moving toward OIE standards in certain situations.

REPORTER: -- with Japan?

SEC. CONNER: I'm not going to say anything more. You guys heard my remarks.

REPORTER: What are the next steps now that the Asian trip is over?

SEC. CONNER: Well, obviously we need to get a full briefing from the group that just returned over the weekend, both Sue Schwab and I. I will be meeting with her in the middle part of this week, Wednesday I believe Sue and I are scheduled to have a meeting. We'll plot out our next steps based upon that briefing. Obviously we're going to continue to reach out to all of our counterparts in these countries, continue to press them with just the strongest possible message that we can: "Simply do what you said you were going to do. This is not a tough situation. You are a part of the international body, you've been a part of these negotiations, you've indicated what you're going to do. Fulfill that obligation, open up your markets according to the science-based standards of the OIE."

Again, it's not difficult. It's something that for the sake of international trade, for the sake of all exports moving around the country, around the globe freely, they should be willing to do because these are countries that are champions of trade, champions of trade according to international standards. Now they just need to do it for this particular product.
   

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Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on August 09, 2008, 08:14:44 PM
South Koreans are angry about the deal that will bring the risk from mad cows to South Korea from the US.
source (http://i1.democracynow.org/2008/8/7/south_koreans_fill_streets_of_seoul)

Utube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns3RJrooaGQ)

South Korea was the number 3 importer of US beef.  Money seems to be the primary concern, not health. The US wants to send older cows who are more at risk for CJD to S Korea.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 29, 2008, 03:17:36 PM
We are assured that the government and the cattle industry have things under control. One of the concerns is the transmission of BSE from sick cattle to other animals via cattle products. One such product is blood. How does it look? Is it safe to feed animals with blood from sick cows or sheep? Will blood transmit BSE?

In April 2008 FDA announced the publication of its Final Rule for 21 CFR Part 589.2001 - Substances Prohibited From Use in Animal Food or Feed. FDA specifically stated in their opinion that, "FDA is not prohibiting the use of blood and blood products in animal feed because we believe such a prohibition would do very little to reduce the risk of BSE transmission."

Known as a leader in developing nutritional products for the swine industry, where 95% of pig starter diets in the United States contain functional proteins, APC has more recently developed their line of colostrum replacers, supplements, feed additives and milk replacer ingredients for calves. Products include plasma, serum and immunoglobulin concentrate based Acquire®, Lifeline®, Gammulin® and Nutrapro® used to optimize the health and performance of calves.

So....the USDA says all is well. Prohibiting blood and blood products "would do very littel to reduce the risk of BSE transmission."

Prion diseases are efficiently transmitted by blood transfusion in sheep


Fiona Houston1, Sandra McCutcheon1, Wilfred Goldmann2, Angela Chong2, James Foster2, Silvia Sisó3, Lorenzo González3, Martin Jeffrey3, and Nora Hunter2 1 Neuropathogenesis Division, Roslin Institute, Compton, United Kingdom; 2 Neuropathogenesis Division, Roslin Institute, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, United Kingdom; and 3 Lasswade Laboratory, Veterinary Laboratories Agency, Penicuik, United Kingdom

The emergence of variant Creutzfeld-Jakob disease, following on from the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) epidemic, led to concerns about the potential risk of iatrogenic transmission of disease by blood transfusion and the introduction of costly control measures to protect blood supplies. We previously reported preliminary data demonstrating the transmission of BSE and natural scrapie by blood transfusion in sheep. The final results of this experiment, reported here, give unexpectedly high transmission rates by transfusion of 36% for BSE and 43% for scrapie. A proportion of BSE-infected tranfusion recipients ( 3 of 8 ) survived for up to 7 years without showing clinical signs of disease. The majority of transmissions resulted from blood collected from donors at more than 50% of the estimated incubation period. The high transmission rates and relatively short and consistent incubation periods in clinically positive recipients suggest that infectivity titers in blood were substantial and/or that blood transfusion is an efficient method of transmission. This experiment has established the value of using sheep as a model for studying transmission of variant Creutzfeld-Jakob disease by blood products in humans.  source (http://bloodjournal.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/abstract/112/12/4739?ct)

Still eating animal products at your holiday meals? You may want to reconsider.



Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on March 10, 2009, 06:55:20 AM
SEAC* was informed about the following issues: . A mother and son in Spain had died of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD). This is the first recorded instance of more than one case of vCJD within one family. Seems that mad cows do indeed kill humans who eat from them.

* In the UK.... The Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee (SEAC) is appointed by Ministers and sponsored jointly by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA), the Department of Health and the Food Standards Agency . Its role is to provide independent expert scientific advice to the Government on spongiform encephalopathies such as BSE, CJD and scrapie. SEAC's remit is wide-ranging, and covers public health, food safety and animal health issues. 
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on January 16, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
Researchers at the University of Zurich, the University Hospital Zurich and the University of Tübingen recommend precautionary measures for scientific labs, slaughterhouses and animal feed plants. New research suggest airborne prions are infectious and can induce mad cow disease or Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease. Transmission of BSE to humans, e.g. by ingesting food derived from BSE-infected cows, causes variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease which is characterized by a progressive and invariably lethal break-down of brain cells.

It is known that prions can be transmitted through contaminated surgical instruments and, more rarely, through blood transfusions. The consumption of food products made from BSE-infected cows can also induce the disease that is responsible for the death of almost 300 people. However, prions are not generally considered to be airborne -- in contrast to many viruses including influenza and chicken pox.

Prof. Aguzzi says the findings are entirely unexpected and appear to contra-dict the widely held view that prions are not airborne. Not only are they infectious, but they are highly infectious.  source (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110113213056.htm)

The article did not mention the fact that mad cows and other material infected or thought to be infected have been incinerated. Generally when material is incinerated there is a release of material into the environment. Since they believed the prions to not be infectious when airborne, they may have misunderstood the risk from incineration.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: JimB on January 16, 2011, 07:06:31 PM
Makes one wonder what the best way of disposal is so that it can't spread. Bury it?
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on January 16, 2011, 07:11:10 PM
It should be treated as toxic waste.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on January 16, 2011, 08:31:37 PM
It is treated by most agencies in most countries as toxic waste. There are different levels of disposal for different agents. There are criteria for disposal, but they did not realize that the material was a danger in the air.  Apparently it is more toxic because there is no ability for the immune system to block it when breathed in as when eaten.

Prions are a very real problem. They are getting into the environment from cattle, sheep, deer, elk, cats, etc. They are in the soil and end up in water. I am not sure where it will end, but God knows. There is a topic on Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in this forum. It reveals the spread of this prion disease in elk and deer. It is spreading east and west on the northern US border.  We are living in the very last days of Earth's history.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 02, 2011, 03:42:21 AM
Some may feel very comfortable in eating animal products when they see no or little difficulty in their own country with vCJD. Let me exlain something that the world does not know, but that we do. vCJD has been directly tied in with the Mad Cows in the UK. But, there are other forms of Mad Cow Diseas in people besides vCJD. They are known as TSEs and are found in many animals. There is a CJD that is called "sporadic". It is not seen by most in government and industry to be communicated from animal to man so there is littel concern for preventing CJD unless it is vCJD.

That post was from 2003. This Australian report is dated June 2010.

(http://remnant-online.com/Images/atypical.jpg)

Sporadic CJD, we were told "just happens". Note that this Australian doctor is saying that they now have evidence that sporadic CJD is being transmitted by Mad Cows to people. "The recent research is that in fact it is due to atypical forms of mad cow disease which have been found across Europe, have been found in America and have been found in Asia."  

Why is this important? Because the variant form of Mad Cows was what caused the CJD in England. We were told that the sCJD "just happens" so that it was not coming from mad sheep or mad cows. But, as I have been warning, the sporadic CJD (sCJD) is coming from eating animals and their products. The US has had very few cases of vCJD, but we have many cases of sCJD. Now the dots are being put together. Read through this thread and the CJD topic to get a better picture of the situation. It is much worse than we have been told.

And, this last week I had a doctor tell me that Alzheimer's is now being called a prion disease.  We have enough evidence to suggest that it also is a transmissible spongiform disease that is being introduced into humans via infected cows, deer, and sheep. The incubation period for these diseases can be very long or relatively short. See the Alzheimer's thread for more information.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 02, 2011, 06:49:53 AM
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And, this last week I had a doctor tell me that Alzheimer's is now being called a prion disease.
Finally!
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 20, 2011, 04:13:14 PM
For many who are not strict vegetarians, the scientific news is getting worse. They have now discovered that BSE (Mad Cow Disease) and Scrapie (Mad Sheep Disease) infects much more than the brain and nerve tissue.  A new study just published reveals that markers for the disease are found throughout the body.

 
Prions are largely contained within the nervous and lymphoid tissue of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) infected animals. However, following advances in diagnostic sensitivity, PrPSc, a marker for prion disease, can now be located in a wide range of viscera and body fluids including muscle, saliva, blood, urine and milk, raising concerns that exposure to these materials could contribute to the spread of disease in humans and animals. Previously we demonstrated low levels of infectivity in the liver of sheep experimentally challenged with bovine spongiform encephalopathy. In this study we show that PrPSc accumulated in the liver of 89% of sheep naturally infected with scrapie and 100% of sheep challenged with BSE, at both clinical and preclinical stages of the disease. PrPSc was demonstrated in the absence of obvious inflammatory foci and was restricted to isolated resident cells, most likely Kupffer cells.
 
Citation: Everest SJ, Ramsay AM, Chaplin MJ, Everitt S, Stack MJ, et al. (2011) Detection and Localisation of PrPSc in the Liver of Sheep Infected with Scrapie and Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy. PLoS ONE 6(5): e19737. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0019737
 
Editor: Jason C. Bartz, Creighton University, United States of America
 
Received: December 30, 2010; Accepted: April 5, 2011; Published: May 12, 2011
 

The United States and other governments have insisted that the meat being sold is safe because it does not contain any "SRM", spcified risk material. This is meat that would contain nerve tissue. Japan refused to important any more US beef when they found a shipment that contained some specified risk material. Not all cows, sheep, goats, deer, or eld are infected with a spongiform disease, but the risk is steadily increasing. The evidence is pointing towards Alzheimer's being an infectious disease similar to CJD (human Mad Cow Disease) and animal Mad Cow and Scrapie Diseases.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on February 01, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
With BSE and other TSEs in animals, the recognition of the wide diversity of prion strains in the field, including three new forms of animal TSEs (L-type Atypical BSE, H-type Atypical BSE and Atypical scrapie), has complicated disease diagnosis and surveillance, as well as scientific assessment of their potential risks to humans. EFSA and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) recently delivered a scientific opinion on any possible epidemiological or molecular association between TSEs in animals and humans (EFSA Panel on Biological Hazards (BIOHAZ) and ECDC, 2011). This opinion confirmed Classical BSE prions as the only TSE agents demonstrated to be zoonotic so far but the possibility that a small proportion of human cases so far classified as “sporadic” CJD are of zoonotic origin could not be excluded. Moreover, transmission experiments to non-human primates suggest that some TSE agents in addition to Classical BSE prions in cattle (namely L-type Atypical BSE, Classical BSE in sheep, transmissible mink encephalopathy (TME) and chronic wasting disease (CWD) agents) might have zoonotic potential. In particular the L-type Atypical BSE agent might be similarly or even more virulent to humans than the Classical BSE agent. While mankind has been in contact with the major TSE of small ruminants for centuries, there is no epidemiological evidence to suggest that classical scrapie is zoonotic; however, experimental transmission data on humanised mice and non-human primates have been very scarce so far.  source (http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/e991.htm?emt=1)
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on February 01, 2012, 10:55:02 PM
While mankind has been in contact with the major TSE of small ruminants for centuries, there is no epidemiological evidence to suggest that classical scrapie is zoonotic; however, experimental transmission data on humanised mice and non-human primates have been very scarce so far. 

"No epidemiological evidence".  It is my understanding that lesions in sheep infected with scrapie are similar to amyloid plaques found in human dementia patients. The USDA has known this for over 20 years.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on February 01, 2012, 11:31:29 PM
I don't have time to spend doing research on this subject, but I took some time tonight ( it is late) to take a look at what has been happening.  I don't have to express my joy at finding this because those who have been following this thread already know.

Alzheimer's disease: A prion protein connection

Moustapha Cisse1 & Lennart Mucke1

February 26, 2009

More than 20 million people worldwide have Alzheimer's disease, yet its causes remain mostly uncertain. Fresh findings provide molecular clues, linking this disease to another neurodegenerative disorder.

Investigations of the causes of Alzheimer's disease yield one culprit time and time again: abnormal build-up of amyloid-β (Aβ) peptides in the brain. Small, soluble aggregates of Aβ — Aβ oligomers — impair memory by disrupting memory-related functions of synaptic junctions between neurons1, 2, 3.  source (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v457/n7233/full/4571090a.html)

This finding came from the Gladstone Institute of Neurological Disease and in the Department of Neurology, University of California, San Francisco.  Alzheimer's disease: A prion protein connection means that there is substantial evidence pointing to Alzheimer's being caused by a spongiform disease.  Mad Cow, Scrapie, Chronic Wasting Disease, etc.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 07, 2012, 03:04:34 PM
Now that science is making headway into the dangers posed to humans by the spongiform diseases in animals, let's consider that while eating animal products is unsafe, there are other dangers also.  I have reported that research has shown that these diseases can be transmitted by bodily fluids including milk. And, it is believed that the infective agents can be found in soil also.

There is a study recently completed that will be interesting to those who are following this subject.

Currently, tests for CWD in live animals involve relatively invasive procedures to collect lymphoid tissue biopsies and examine them for Chronic Wasting Disease (Mad Elk and Deer).  Now, it has been shown that the "PMCA successfully detected PrPCWD in feces from elk that were positive by IHC, with estimated prion loads from 100 to 5,000 pg PrPCWD/g of feces. These data show for the first time PrPCWD in feces from naturally exposed free-ranging elk and demonstrate the potential of PMCA as a new, noninvasive CWD diagnostic tool to complement IHC." source (http://www.jwildlifedis.org/content/48/2/425.abstract?etoc)

Detecting spongiform disease in live animals means that we ought to be able to detect spongiform disease in cows, sheep, and humans.  Prior to this research, it was an invasive procedure, but not any  longer. They found prion protein in feces. When this is available for sheep and cows, it could be disastrous for these two industries. Detecting BSE and Scrapie in live animals could reveal a much large infection rate than is currently estimated. Detection in humans could prevent spread of the disease through medical and dental procedures.

Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 07, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
The ramifications are huge. I see no end to it, do you?   

Here are other free-ranging animals reported as positive for CWD. http://www.cwd-info.org/
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Wally on April 07, 2012, 03:46:19 PM
One of my long time customers was recently diagnosed with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.  I didn't realize that it was possible to diagnose it in a living person. They said that from the onset of symptoms until death is about 6 months.  The first symptoms appeared last fall, and he isn't expected to live much longer.  He is already unable to recognize anyone and is unable to function without full time care.  A very sad situation.  They don't know how he acquired the disease, but they are suggesting a hereditary factor.  I didn't have the heart to tell his wife that it could have come from eating infected meat.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 07, 2012, 03:57:30 PM
Very sad.

Soil clay content underlies prior infection. From what I know of soil composition in the Rocky Mountains, clay is king.

Environmental factors — especially soil properties — have been suggested as potentially important in the transmission of infectious prion diseases. Because binding to montmorillonite (an aluminosilicate clay mineral) or clay-enriched soils had been shown to enhance experimental prion transmissibility, we hypothesized that prion transmission among mule deer might also be enhanced in ranges with relatively high soil clay content. In this study, we report apparent influences of soil clay content on the odds of prion infection in free-ranging deer. Analysis of data from prion-infected deer herds in northern Colorado, USA, revealed that a 1 % increase in the clay-sized particle content in soils within the approximate home range of an individual deer increased its odds of infection by up to 8.9 % . Our findings suggest that soil clay content and related environmental properties deserve greater attention in assessing risks of prion disease outbreaks and prospects for their control in both natural and production settings.

http://www.wellsphere.com/cjd-article/soil-clay-content-underlies-prion-infection-odds/1369600
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 07, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
It is very sad. Even more so when we realize the incubation period can be very long. People could have made changes ten years ago and still be infected from before then. Was it variant CJD or sporadic CJD? More than likely it is sporadic since they are saying it does not come from eating meat. It just happens. If it was variant, then more than likely he would have gotten it from the UK.  Although they have exported quite a bit of gelatin to the US that is a source of infection with variant CJD. If it is variant, it would have been widely reported.

They have convinced everyone that there is nothing that can be done about sporadic, so keep eating your animal products.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 07, 2012, 04:22:28 PM
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Was it variant CJD or sporadic CJD?
I am not finding any of the reports from this site http://www.cwd-info.org/ that state which it is.

Am looking into the soil article, this one in particular: http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v2/n2/pdf/ncomms1203.pdf. 
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 07, 2012, 04:34:41 PM
Look at this short discussion on soil clay in the Rocky Mountains and the UK. More work needs to be done in that area:

Despite the plausibility, attempts to link specific soil characteristics
to patterns of prion disease occurrence at a broad geographical
scale have thus far yielded equivocal results 16,17 . Trace elements in
soils did not appear to explain observed patterns of scrapie occurrence
in the United Kingdom 17 , but soil clay mineralogy data were
not considered in that analysis. Analysis of various geochemical
factors and their respective influences on scrapie and bovine
spongiform encephalopathy incidences in Britain yielded relatively
weak evidence of soil clay and organic carbon contents increasing
or decreasing, respectively, disease incidence 16 . However, the
uniformly low-soil clay content ( < 5.2 % ) and low ratio of clay to
organic carbon ( < 2:1) in the soil data analysed, the small sample
sizes, and the coarse geographical scale 16 may have precluded or
obscured demonstrable effects. Moreover, the common practice of
adding phyllosilicate microparticles to livestock feeds 26 could overshadow
or confound the influences of soil-derived microparticles
on prion transmission risk in production setting as compared with
natural systems.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v2/n2/pdf/ncomms1203.pdf
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Wally on April 08, 2012, 03:28:01 AM
I don't know the type, but this man is originally from Denmark, so that may be a clue.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Wally on April 10, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
I just got word yesterday that the man died.  It was inevitable, but very sad, nevertheless.  He and his wife had a very good relationship.  I can only hope that the Lord will be able use this tragedy as means of saving her.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 10, 2012, 06:20:56 PM
It is sad. Much more education needs to be done in this area. People are needlessly dying.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 10, 2012, 08:01:20 PM
The numbers are relatively small for CJD. It is increasing. But, if Alzheimer's proves to be an infectious spongiform disease, then the numbers are huge and growing rapidly. And, I think that to be the case. There is enough evidence to suggest the relationship. There are many ways to die, but none are as devastating as losing one's mind. And, if I am right, and Alzheimer's is infectious from spongiform animals, then it was all preventable if the truth were made known that eating animal products is a source of infection.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Dorine on April 11, 2012, 05:06:42 AM
A non-SDA family I know lost their mother last year to a "rare kind of brain cancer" the Dr's had not seen before. Her brain was full of holes like a sponge. When I heard that I became very suspicious. The interesting thing is that her mind was good right up to the end and she didn't suffer except for some dizziness and black outs once in awhile. There was no autopsy done.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 11, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
I don't believe they are very interested in keeping track of the spongiform diseases. Something like this ought be studied a little more to make sure it is not connected to spongiform disease. From my understanding there is no mandatory reporting of some of these human diseases.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on April 11, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
I believe this will develop as did HIV and AIDS. Until it hits the home of "those in charge," it will remain on a shelf as something they know about but do not have a high level of concern. The day will come when they do, if your suspicions are correct. 
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on April 12, 2012, 06:48:48 PM
I ran across this while reading on the current research in TSEs.  It is a study done in 2003 and published in the British Medical Bulletin.

The lesion profiles in mice infected with sCJD were similar for the six sources and strikingly different from those seen in mice with BSE or vCJD (Fig. 3). Serial mouse-to-mouse passage of sCJD isolates has yielded a unique strain that is distinct from the pair of strains isolated from BSE. These results indicate that sCJD, even in dairy farmers potentially exposed to BSE, is associated with a different TSE strain from that causing vCJD or BSE.


It is not often, if ever, we will find a statement saying "even in dairy farmers potentially exposed to BSE" when dealing with sCJD.  Again, s is "sporadic" CJD and there is no cause, it just happens. Well, here the scientist is thinking that maybe there is a connection between BSE and sCJD.  In the study they took vCJD and infected mice with it. The text can be read here.  source (http://bmb.oxfordjournals.org/content/66/1/99.full)
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on August 03, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
It took many years, but now the tide is turning. What we have known for a long time is coming to light.

Seven main threats for the future linked to prions

The NeuroPrion network has identified seven main threats for the future linked to prions.

First threat

The TSE road map defining the evolution of European policy for protection against prion diseases is based on a certain numbers of hypotheses some of which may turn out to be erroneous. In particular, a form of BSE (called atypical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy), recently identified by systematic testing in aged cattle without clinical signs, may be the origin of classical BSE and thus potentially constitute a reservoir, which may be impossible to eradicate if a sporadic origin is confirmed. Also, a link is suspected between atypical BSE and some apparently sporadic cases of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans. These atypical BSE cases constitute an unforeseen first threat that could sharply modify the European approach to prion diseases.   source (http://www.neuroprion.org/en/np-neuroprion.html)

Sharply modify is just the right use of the words. Sporadic CJD has a cause and our friends are finally getting the picture right. And, it scares them. It ought to if they continue to eat animal products. And, even if they don't continue, with up to a 50 year incubation period, it is already too late for many who have been eating and drinking animal products for a long time.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on August 16, 2012, 06:07:38 AM
Second threat

In small ruminants, a new atypical form of scrapie currently represents up to 50% of detected cases and even involves sheep selected for resistance to classical scrapie. The consequences for animal and human health are still unknown and there may be a potential connection with atypical BSE. These atypical scrapie cases constitute a second threat not envisioned previously which could deeply modify the European approach to prion diseases.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 03, 2012, 06:16:35 AM
Third threat

The species barrier between human and cattle might be weaker than previously expected and the risk of transmission of prion diseases between different species has been notoriously unpredictable. The emergence of new atypical strains in cattle and sheep together with the spread of chronic wasting disease in cervids renders the understanding of the species barrier critical. This constitutes a third threat not properly envisioned previously that could deeply modify the European approach to prion diseases.

I understand that many reading this do not understand what is being said, and many others are not reading this. Let me express a thought that is woven throughout the posts in this Healthful Living Forum. Few understand the threat to their health and happiness posed by the eating of animal products. What is being stated by this European group has profound importance to all living on this planet. Cancer, Alzheimer's, and many other fatal and non-fatal diseases are being transmitted through this vector. The connection between animal diseases and human diseases is much more than we have been told. Here in this message, we find a warning so dire that to read it and to go on with life without understanding what the implications are will be a great mistake. In other words, we are being told. Wake up!  If you are not eating animal products then realize that God is giving you something to tell those whom you love that do not understand the dangers. To lose one's life is sad, but to lose one's mind before they die is not a good way to go.

Read again the warning, the admission that there has been a failure in the past to understand the real threat to human life posed by sick animals.  You will not hear this being reported in the media of the world. The cost to the economy is too great to spread this news far and wide.

The species barrier between human and cattle might be weaker than previously expected and the risk of transmission of prion diseases between different species has been notoriously unpredictable. The emergence of new atypical strains in cattle and sheep together with the spread of chronic wasting disease in cervids renders the understanding of the species barrier critical. This constitutes a third threat not properly envisioned previously that could deeply modify the European approach to prion diseases.

Translation:  The touted barrier between mad cows, mad sheep, mad deer and people may not exist. In other words, many species of animals, like the ones mentioned and others like pigs, chicken, fish and their eggs, and milk, are now being seen as a risk for transmitting prion diseases to people.

The world has been warned.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 03, 2012, 06:40:24 AM
Fourth threat

Prion infectivity has now been detected in blood, urine and milk and this has potential consequences on risk assessments for the environment and food as well as for contamination of surfaces including medical instruments. Furthermore the procedures recommended for decontamination of MBM (Meat and Bone Meal), which are based on older methodologies not designed for this purpose, have turned out to be of very limited efficacy and compromise current policies concerning the reuse of these high value protein supplements (cross-contamination of feed circuits are difficult to control). It should be noted that the destruction or very limited use of MBM is estimated to still cost 1 billion euros per year to the European economy, whereas other countries, including the US, Brazil, and Argentine do not have these constraints. However, many uncertainties remain concerning the guarantees that can be reasonably provided for food and feed safety and scientific knowledge about the causative agents (prions) will continue to evolve. This decontamination and environmental issue is a fourth threat that could modify deeply the European approach to prion diseases.

We are being warned!

Translation:

As we have been preaching for many years, animal products, eggs and dairy products, are a risk for the transmission of Mad Cow Disease and Mad Sheep Disease. Do not think that drinking raw goat milk is not a high risk for the transmission of fatal diseases. The disinfecting of medical instruments is being questioned. The feedstock for animals is seen to be at risk. And, notice what I made mention of in my last post. There is a great economic loss from dealing with this situation in an appropriate manner. What has been stated here is important to note. One billion dollars every year is what they say it will cost to deal with the meat and bone meal problem in Europe. But, even more telling is why they would be reluctant to do it. Competition in the world market would make is very hard to put into practice what they know needs to be done to protect animal and human health. "other countries, including the US, Brazil, and Argentine do not have these constraints."  The U.S. will not modify their policy on MBM, thus leaving their customers at high risk, but also making it impossible for Europe to compete if they do restrict the current policy that is seen to be ineffective at removing the risk for the transmission of prion diseases.

We have been warned!
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 09, 2012, 12:07:20 AM
Fifth threat

The precise nature of prions remains elusive. Very recent data indicate that abnormal prion protein (PrPTSE) can be generated from the brains of normal animals, and under some conditions (including contaminated waste water) PrPTSE can be destroyed whereas the BSE infectious titre remains almost unchanged, a finding that underlines the possibility of having BSE without any detectable diagnostic marker. These are just two areas of our incomplete knowledge of the fundamental biology of prions which constitute a fifth threat to the European approach to prion diseases.

There is some  honesty being shown here. These people must not own any cows or sheep. If it were not for our faith in God, it would be very hard to go to the doctor or dentist.  And, our drinking water was already bad enough without telling us that water treatment may not be able to remove the infectious prion disease.  Many cities depend upon waste water treatment for drinking water. The sewer water is treated, then where does it go? Into rivers that provide irrigation for food crops, and municipal drinking water. But, the primary concern all ought to have before reading these new cautions, but especially after reading here, is the eating of animal products. That includes dairy and eggs. The risk is too great.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 23, 2012, 02:04:58 PM
Sixth threat

The absence of common methods and standardisation in the evaluation of multiple in vivo models with different prion strains and different transgenic mice expressing PrP from different species (different genotypes of cattle, sheep, cervids, etc) renders a complete and comprehensive analysis of all the data generated by the different scientific groups almost impossible. This deeply impairs risk assessment. Moreover, the possibility of generating PrPTSE de novo with new powerful techniques has raised serious questions about their appropriateness for use as blood screening tests. The confusion about an incorrect interpretation of positive results obtained by these methods constitutes a sixth threat to European approach to prion diseases.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 25, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
Seventh Threat

The detection of new or re-emerging prion diseases in animals or humans which could lead to a new crisis in consumer confidence over the relaxation of precautionary measures and surveillance programmes constitutes a seventh threat that could modify the European approach to prion diseases.


This is what is happening and will happen more. Like cancer, prion diseases are not limited to just a few kind.  As I been writing for many years, there is enough scientific evidence to suggest that Ahlzheimer's may be a prion disease. In which case, humans have been infected for many years and at an ever increasing rate. There is no safety in eating animal products because of the increase in their diseases. Many are transferred to people.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: carls365 on September 25, 2012, 12:46:41 PM
I read the other day chewy candies like jelly beans, Gummy Bears, and Knox gelatin, Jello, are made from the hoves of cattle. Frankly, a vast number of things we eat probably has some slaughtered animal parts in them. It is far, far, beyond that time when meat was considered to be safe. All mostly because of the evil tampering of men.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 26, 2012, 10:51:15 AM
Carl, we have  topic on gelatin. It is most dangerous. For awhile it was imported from the UK when other cow products were not. It can carry Mad Cow Disease. Many are fearful because it is often made with pig, but that is not the greatest risk any more. The government was assured that the manufacturing process rendered the BSE, Mad Cow Disease harmless, so they allowed its importation. They later acknowledged that this was not so and the BSE was still infectious in the gelatin.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: carls365 on September 26, 2012, 12:12:25 PM
Yet, most of the world's billions eat meat from anywhere and lots of it. My neighbors have beef, pork, and poultry couple times a day, seven days a week. Scary thought Richard.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on September 26, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
It is a blessing to be able to share with those who are open to truth what they can do to prevent many of the terrible diseases that are ravaging the world. And, at the same time be able to show them that we care about them, the "right am" works.  And, because we were given great light on this over 100 years ago, there is a great responsibility resting upon all in the church to give this warning. It is very sad to see young children being given milk by their parents thinking they are helping them.  We know and with that understanding comes accountability.  One day we shall hear "you knew and did not tell me?"
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on October 18, 2012, 09:18:19 AM
We cannot protect ourselves from all threats in this world. We are dependent upon God for our protection. But, we must do what we can to prevent disease from overcoming us. A healthy Bible based diet is an important part of remaining disease free. There are other considerations when it comes to infectious disease. We understand the importance of washing our hands. Here is something else that will help to impress upon our minds the need to practice good hygiene

Avian scavengers, such as American crows (Corvus brachyrhynchos), have potential to translocate infectious agents (prions) of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) diseases including chronic wasting disease, scrapie, and bovine spongiform encephalopathy. We inoculated mice with fecal extracts obtained from 20 American crows that were force-fed material infected with RML-strain scrapie prions. These mice all evinced severe neurological dysfunction 196–231 d postinoculation ( = 198; 95% CI: 210–216) and tested positive for prion disease. Our results suggest a large proportion of crows that consume prion-positive tissue are capable of passing infectious prions in their feces ( = 1.0; 95% CI: 0.8–1.0). Therefore, this common, migratory North American scavenger could play a role in the geographic spread of TSE diseases.

Kurt C. VerCauteren*, John L. Pilon¤a, Paul B. Nash¤b, Gregory E. Phillips, Justin W. Fischer

United States Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Wildlife Services, National Wildlife Research Center, Fort Collins, Colorado, United States of America

We see here a very real threat to human health from Mad Cow Disease and other TSE diseases such as Scrapie, Chronic Wasting Disease, and CJD. Prions are not easily rendered incapable of transmitting disease. They are very infectious and appear to be long lasting. One high risk activity that comes to mind is the practice of collecting drinking water from the surface of roofs. This is a common practice in some countries. Once the bird droppings land on the roof, there is great danger to human health.
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Mimi on October 18, 2012, 10:24:31 AM
I am amazed at the additional threat from such a common source. Amen to your statement on us doing what we can to prevent disease. Otherwise, for those unavoidable elements, God must be our protector!
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 07, 2013, 11:33:57 AM
Ten thousand shall fall at our side. "Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; [nor] for the arrow that flieth by day;  Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.  A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee." Psalms 91:5-7.

From an article dated yesterday, May 6, "Professor Marc Turner, medical director for the Scottish National Blood Transfusion Service, said shortfalls in technology mean blood donors are not screened for the passive form of variant (vCJD), otherwise known as mad cow disease. Some 2500 Scots are estimated to be "silent" carriers of defective proteins that have caused people to develop the deadly brain-wasting illness, which can kill sufferers in 12 to 18 months."

The article goes on to say "Humans cannot now contract vCJD from eating British beef, following the culling of millions of cows in the late 1980s." That is an amazing statement to make. With the unknowns involved, I would not want to make such a statement.

British Government officials believe that one in 20,000 Britons carry a dormant form that could be passed on in blood donations. According to Professor Turner  "most people over the age of 16 or 17 would have been exposed to BSE in the food chain, especially during the 1980s, and warned that in principle those exposed could have been infected with a form of vCJD."

"Most people over 17"?  That does not bode well for the British or anyone else who ate British beef or sheep. Being exposed to, that is eating Mad Cows, is a most serious disaster. Incubation periods are very long in some cases. source (http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/warning-of-mad-cow-disease-threat-to-blood-transfusions.20977106)
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on May 19, 2015, 04:10:04 PM
We have noted in other posts that prions, the infective agent in the transmission of spongiform diseases such as Mad Cow, Mad Sheep, and Mad Deer diseases, can infect soil for extended periods of time. It is now seen that the prions can move from the roots of plants to higher up structures in plants. This is bad news for animals and humans. The prions can be excreted in urine and feces in cows, sheep, goats, deer, elk, cats, mink, and who knows what other animals that can be carriers of spongiform diseases. 

Grass Plants Bind, Retain, Uptake, and Transport Infectious Prions

Sandra Pritzkow, Rodrigo Morales, Fabio Moda3, Uffaf Khan, Glenn C. Telling, Edward Hoover, Claudio Soto
IRCCS Foundation Carlo Besta Neurological Institute, 20133 Milan, Italy; May 14, 2015

Prions are the protein-based infectious agents responsible for prion diseases. Environmental prion contamination has been implicated in disease transmission. Here, we analyzed the binding and retention of infectious prion protein (PrPSc) to plants. Small quantities of PrPSc contained in diluted brain homogenate or in excretory materials (urine and feces) can bind to wheat grass roots and leaves. Wild-type hamsters were efficiently infected by ingestion of prion-contaminated plants. The prion-plant interaction occurs with prions from diverse origins, including chronic wasting disease. Furthermore, leaves contaminated by spraying with a prion-containing preparation retained PrPSc for several weeks in the living plant. Finally, plants can uptake prions from contaminated soil and transport them to aerial parts of the plant (stem and leaves). These findings demonstrate that plants can efficiently bind infectious prions and act as carriers of infectivity, suggesting a possible role of environmental prion contamination in the horizontal transmission of the disease.   source (http://www.cell.com/cell-reports/abstract/S2211-1247%2815%2900437-4)
Title: Re: Mad Cows and People
Post by: Richard Myers on November 03, 2015, 06:42:35 AM
As we look for causes of diseases, we often are ignorant of ways in which infective agents can be transmitted to humans. There are some who are strict vegetarians that come down with cancer, Creutzfeldt–Jakob Disease (CJD, or Alzheimer's and therefore they do not think the cause of the disease was an infective agent such as a cancer virus or a prion. There are others ways to be infected other than through eating food.

We know that there is cross contamination in food preparation. E-coli in meat infects salads when the cutting board used to prepare infected meat is used to cut tomatoes for a salad. I have often warned pet owners to be careful in handling pet food which is not inspected as is human food. And, it is adulterated with materials that is unfit for human consumption making it more likely to spread virus and prions.

Here is an example of how easy it is to infect a human with a very dangerous bacteria or virus that can kill. Recently there was a "milk fest" where 25 were infected with e-coli. Notice the caution being presented and where they found high concentrations of the deadly bacteria, in the barn area where cattle were held. Notice also how easy it is to become infected if one is not very careful about hygiene.  source (http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/10/final-milk-makers-fest-e-coli-o157h7-outbreak-final-report-released/#.VjjD6m5z8qk)

It is important that we consider the diseases in animals to be more of a concern that just in eating them. The articled listed some recommendations to prevent such transmissions. "Consider any environment where animals have been kept, such as barns, to be contaminated with bacteria or viruses that can make people ill." Another important bit of information ought to be considered when seeking to understand what may be causing some of the diseases that have reached epidemic proportions. Cancer, CJD, and Alzheimer's can have a very long incubation periiod, thus seeking to know the method of infection can be very difficult after 40 years. On the other hand the leading cause of death  by disease to the young under age 15 is cancer. One of the leading cancers causing this is Leukemia which now infects much of the dairy supply.