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Richard Myers:
A correct understanding of these verses will be a great help in seeing the gospel of Jesus Christ. Why is there such a need to correctly understand these verses? They have been wrested in the teachings of many within the church.

It is a blessing to be able to take in context these verses and clearly understand that Paul was expressing the victory one obtains when filled with the Holy Spirit and the torment one feels when conviction of the law comes home to the heart, by the Holy Spirit, but no surrender of the will is made.

Let us begin with verse 7:5. "For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death." Paul is talking about when we were lost without a Saviour. He says that the acts of sin, which were revealed by the law of God, did work through our flesh to bring us under the condemnation of broken law.

Any comments before continuing?

Laurie Mosher:
  Happy Sabbath to you all!!   Richard, you certainly picked an interesting topic.I have in my library a little book called "Bible Studies on the Book of Romans "by E.J.Waggoner.   Here is one excerpt that caught my eye."What is the difference between the would-be Christian, who knows the law, but does not keep it, and the worlding who does not keep the law, and does not acknowledge that it is good?
 Simply this: We are unwilling slaves, and they are willing slaves. We are all the time distracted and sorrowful, and getting nothing out of life at all, while the worlding does not worry himself in the least." p.54 "If one is going to sin, is it not better to be the worlding, who does not know there is such a thing as liberty, than to be the man who knows that there is a liberty, but cannot get it? If it has got to be slavery, if we must live in the sins of the world, then it is better to be in the world, partaking of its pleasures, then to be in miserable bondage, and have no hope of a life to come."
Ibid.   Kind of sums it up. doesn't it.   Of course there is a solution, but it can keep.  Keep "the" faith
   Br. Laurie  :0)

Richard Myers:
Amen, Brother Laurie. Happy Sabbath to you and your family!

Thank you for sharing. It is so true. A knowledge of the law does not bring peace, but condemnation. The law has no power to save. Salvation  comes through Jesus Christ as do all good gifts.

Richard Myers:
Romans 7:6    "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."  Now, after we receive Jesus Christ as our Saviour, we are delivered from the bondage of the law, delivered from the condemnation of the law; that, now having the law of love written upon our hearts we follow the spirit of the law, not just the letter while disobeying it's Spirit.

charlene:
If we keep our life hidden in His life, He will keep us from falling. And we live under grace. We come under the condemnation of the law, only if we break the law, if we remove our eyes from Christ, we follow self [sin].Praise God we have the precious promises that He is able to present us faultless before His Father if we will but let Him live His life in us.thank you jesus,
charlene

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