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« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2019, 11:48:25 AM »
"The substitution of the precepts of men for the commandments of God has not ceased. Even among Christians are found institutions and usages that have no better foundation than the traditions of the fathers. Such institutions, resting upon mere human authority, have supplanted those of divine appointment. Men cling to their traditions, and revere their customs, and cherish hatred against those who seek to show them their error. In this day, when we are bidden to call attention to the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, we see the same enmity as was manifested in the days of Christ. Of the remnant people of God it is written, "The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17[/color].[/color]

Are you , Am I , ready for this testing time which will come to all of God's people in the near future. Oh my brothers and sister, let us say with the Psalmist David written in Psalms 139..."  23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

"The testing time will come to all, when the hopes of many who have for years thought themselves secure, will be seen to be without foundation. When in new positions, under varied circumstances, some who have seemed to be pillars in the house of God reveal only rotten timber beneath the paint and varnish. But the humble in heart, who have daily felt the importance of riveting their souls to the eternal Rock, will stand unmoved amid the tempests of trial, because they trusted not to themselves. “The foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his” (2 Timothy 2:19). {SL 12.1




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« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2019, 05:28:09 AM »
Jesus made no attempt to defend Himself or His disciples. He made no reference to the charges against Him, but proceeded to show the spirit that actuated these sticklers for human rites. He gave them an example of what they were repeatedly doing, and had done just before coming in search of Him.

This is something that I need to be reminded of often. It was a rarity (maybe never) that Jesus answered people's objections and stated errors. He just kept on proclaiming truth. Maybe because He knew the heart? Sometimes I find it hard to keep away from the thought process that if I can only answer their objection they will change their mind(s). However, as we read through the gospel we know this normally isn't true. The objectors usually will just bring another argument so you're left going in circles and accomplishing little. The only time when this probably isn't the case is when someone is truly searching for truth and their questions are answered they accept it.
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« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2019, 06:06:04 AM »
Amen Jim. We ought not be so concerned with those who want to argue. Jesus sought out those who were seeking the truth. Those whose hearts were open to the truth He labored with. The woman at the well, Nicodemus, and His disciples are good examples. He did not speak in parables to His disciples. When met with "wolves" in sheep's clothing, He did not argue on their terms, but left them utterly without words to speak. Eventually they ceased discussions with Him for they knew they would be confounded.

Today's reading is a condemnation of the ways of man, traditions which are so highly valued by many in the church. We might not think this is in our church, but it is. We have an "Adventist" culture which is alive and well. An example can be seen in the fact that we are "vegetarians." For what reason? It is a tradition. When many are shown that milk and dairy transmit animal diseases to humans, even cancer, these "Adventists" refuse to accept the truth, but continue on not eating meat, especially pig. When quoted scientific studies, and Spirit of Prophecy concerning the subject, they reject the truth but continue being "Adventist" vegetarians. We see this at the highest levels in the church, even with the leaders in health ministries.

     But "every plant, which My heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up." In place of the authority of the so-called fathers of the church, God bids us accept the word of the eternal Father, the Lord of heaven and earth. Here alone is truth unmixed with error. David said, "I have more understanding than all my teachers: for Thy testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Thy precepts." Psalm 119:99, 100. Let all who accept human authority, the customs of the church, or the traditions of the fathers, take heed to the warning conveyed in the words of Christ, "In vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

Such a blessing to understand.

Such institutions, resting upon mere human authority, have supplanted those of divine appointment. Men cling to their traditions, and revere their customs, and cherish hatred against those who seek to show them their error.

Jesus and His followers experience this.

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

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« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2019, 06:23:51 AM »
"Whenever the message of truth comes home to souls with special power, Satan stirs up his agents to start a dispute over some minor question. Thus he seeks to attract attention from the real issue. Whenever a good work is begun, there are cavilers ready to enter into dispute over forms or technicalities, to draw minds away from the living realities. When it appears that God is about to work in a special manner for His people, let them not be enticed into a controversy that will work only ruin of souls."

Brothers and Sisters - Do not be distracted by the enemy. Our church today is facing a huge undermining of true Bible Interpretation. Cling to your Bibles. Pray and study as never before! Our enemy is going about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.  He will succeed "only " if we neglect to read God's Holy Word and His special gift for this time through the Spirit of Prophecy. God says... " My people perish for a lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6 

"The questions that most concern us are, Do I believe with saving faith on the Son of God? Is my life in harmony with the divine law? "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life." "And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments." John 3:36; 1 John 2:3.
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« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2019, 07:58:55 AM »
Amen, Jim, Richard, and Beacon!

We are not sent into the world to combat everyone's false ideas, but to present the truth as it is in Jesus, knowing that the most effective way to deal with error is to plant truth. May we also be refreshed and encouraged by Jesus' manner of dealing with controversy--in that rather than enter into it, He kept presenting eternal truth that would show the inconsistency of error. So today, even in God's church, when there are so many who preach false gospels--and there are so many--we might think it necessary to combat every nuance of error and inconsistency. How? By presenting the Bible's plain teaching on the sinfulness of humanity and our utter need of conversion, the power of grace to change sinners into saints by renewing the heart and mind, and the resulting transformation manifest in the revelation of the fruits of the Spirit being in the life without one missing, we can be thankful that when truth is clearly revealed, the errors do not harmonize with the everlasting gospel. Jesus has sent us to uplift the cross and to proclaim real righteousness by real faith. May we not get side-tracked by trying to defend ourselves. I am thankful for Jesus' perfect example!

 "Jesus made no attempt to defend Himself or His disciples. He made no reference to the charges against Him, but proceeded to show the spirit that actuated these sticklers for human rites. He gave them an example of what they were repeatedly doing, and had done just before coming in search of Him. 'Full well ye reject the commandment of God,' He said, 'that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: but ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do aught for his father or his mother.' They set aside the fifth commandment as of no consequence, but were very exact in carrying out the traditions of the elders. They taught the people that the devotion of their property to the temple was a duty more sacred than even the support of their parents; and that, however great the necessity, it was sacrilege to impart to father or mother any part of what had been thus consecrated. An undutiful child had only to pronounce the word "Corban" over his property, thus devoting it to God, and he could retain it for his own use during his lifetime, and after his death it was to be appropriated to the temple service. Thus he was at liberty, both in life and in death, to dishonor and defraud his parents, under cover of a pretended devotion to God." {The Desire of Ages, page 396, paragraph 4} 

Every false principle wars against the unselfish love to God and to our neighbor manifest in Christ's everlasting gospel. When we are seeking not to evade responsibility or the searching conviction of the Holy Spirit who shows us our sinfulness and our deep need of repentance, we can be thankful that Christ came not to condemn, but to save and to help us see our constant need of union and communion with Him!
"When we live by faith on the Son of God, the fruits of the Spirit will be seen in our lives; not one will be missing." {The Desire of Ages, 676.4}

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« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2019, 08:15:53 AM »
Amen, Jim, Richard, and Beacon!

We are not sent into the world to combat everyone's false ideas, but to present the truth as it is in Jesus, knowing that the most effective way to deal with error is to plant truth. May we also be refreshed and encouraged by Jesus' manner of dealing with controversy--in that rather than enter into it, He kept presenting eternal truth that would show the inconsistency of error.

Amen Pastor. I am so thankful for Jesus's example. If left to my own wisdom I would do it all wrong. In walking with Jesus each day He keeps us on the straight and narrow road. Words and actions come from the attitude of the heart and that's were the Pharisees, priests and rulers erred and we will too if we are not spending that thoughtful hour each and every day with Christ.
But this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press  toward the mark. Phil. 3:13,14

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« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2019, 07:07:01 PM »
"Whenever the message of truth comes home to souls with special power, Satan stirs up his agents to start a dispute over some minor question. Thus he seeks to attract attention from the real issue. Whenever a good work is begun, there are cavilers ready to enter into dispute over forms or technicalities, to draw minds away from the living realities. When it appears that God is about to work in a special manner for His people, let them not be enticed into a controversy that will work only ruin of souls."

"The questions that most concern us are, Do I believe with saving faith on the Son of God? Is my life in harmony with the divine law? "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life." "And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments." John 3:36; 1 John 2:3.

Looking unto Jesus, we must keep our eyes fixed upon Him, remembering what happened to Peter when he took his eyes off Jesus while walking on the water on the Sea of Galilee and he looked at the huge waves. The following verses help to remind us of where our courage and comfort are found.

John 13:17
If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.

1 Peter 3:14
But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled.

1 Peter 4:14
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

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« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2019, 06:31:23 AM »
"To the multitude, and afterward more fully to His disciples, Jesus explained that defilement comes not from without, but from within. Purity and impurity pertain to the soul. It is the evil deed, the evil word, the evil thought, the transgression of the law of God, not the neglect of external, man-made ceremonies, that defiles a man."

This may not be comparing apples to apples but I was thinking that the opposite is also true. If we are using methods and new ideas to bring peace and satisfaction to our soul then we will be left empty. The reason I say this is because every time new officers are elected (in our area) they have a new idea of how to bring more people into the church and to have the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Each method fails. I've had discussions with some who 'by-pass' the suggestion that it starts with an individual surrender of the heart to Christ.  They make the 'methods' (which is without) more important than what is 'within'. (pure deeds, pure words, pure thoughts which is a result of a complete surrender to Jesus)

We need heart transplants each and every day and instead of  taking on the job of the Holy Spirit we need to open our hearts and let Him in so He may change our hearts and if we are planting the seeds then we can trust Him to do the harvesting.
But this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press  toward the mark. Phil. 3:13,14

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« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2019, 09:35:32 AM »
Amen, Brother Beacon and Sister Dorine!

Jesus longs to create pure hearts in us, and He has promised to do this if we will simply receive His promises by faith (see Ezekiel 36:26 and 2 Peter 1:4). The simplicity of the gospel helps us to walk securely in new situations and to help the church to truly grow in spiritual life by having Christ in us, the hope of glory! May we not be distracted by minor questions when Christ desires us to know Him in whom is eternal life!

"Whenever the message of truth comes home to souls with special power, Satan stirs up his agents to start a dispute over some minor question. Thus he seeks to attract attention from the real issue. Whenever a good work is begun, there are cavilers ready to enter into dispute over forms or technicalities, to draw minds away from the living realities. When it appears that God is about to work in a special manner for His people, let them not be enticed into a controversy that will work only ruin of souls. The questions that most concern us are, Do I believe with saving faith on the Son of God? Is my life in harmony with the divine law? 'He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life.' 'And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.' John 3:36; 1 John 2:3." {The Desire of Ages, page 396, paragraph 3}

Satan knows that if he cannot get us to go directly in to sin, that he can try a method of dictation or diversion. But here is where we need to watch and pray that we will abide in Christ and not be diverted from the things that are truly important--of knowing Christ and having a continual surrender to Him by living faith so that all of the fruits of the Spirit are manifest in our lives without one missing!
"When we live by faith on the Son of God, the fruits of the Spirit will be seen in our lives; not one will be missing." {The Desire of Ages, 676.4}

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Re: The Desire of Ages--42--Tradition
« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2019, 09:37:43 PM »
Again, what a blessing to read the blessings all are receiving daily as the Holy Spirit touches our hearts with such important truths!

This morning I was so very blessed to understand that God has things under His control. When we see the apostasy in the church and her institutions, we sorrow. But, we need not think that this will go on forever.

    He answered, "Every plant, which My heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up." The customs and traditions so highly valued by the rabbis were of this world, not from heaven. However great their authority with the people, they could not endure the testing of God. Every human invention that has been substituted for the commandments of God will be found worthless in that day when "God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12:14.
     The substitution of the precepts of men for the commandments of God has not ceased. Even among Christians are found institutions and usages that have no better foundation than the traditions of the fathers. Such institutions, resting upon mere human authority, have supplanted those of divine appointment. Men cling to their traditions, and revere their customs, and cherish hatred against those who seek to show them their error. In this day, when we are bidden to call attention to the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, we see the same enmity as was manifested in the days of Christ. Of the remnant people of God it is written, "The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17.
     But "every plant, which My heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up." In place of the authority of the so-called fathers of the church, God bids us accept the word of the eternal Father, the Lord of heaven and earth. Here alone is truth unmixed with error. David said, "I have more understanding than all my teachers: for Thy testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Thy precepts." Psalm 119:99, 100. Let all who accept human authority, the customs of the church, or the traditions of the fathers, take heed to the warning conveyed in the words of Christ, "In vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.