Author Topic: Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury  (Read 3867 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Curt

  • Moderator
  • Posts: 1371
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« on: August 09, 2002, 11:03:00 AM »
Once again, Spirit of Prophecy (SOP) is validated. In Ministry of Healing pgs 311-317 we have a discourse providing reasons for discarding flesh fods. Although some do not class fish as meat it is a flesh food.

pg 313
"Flesh was never the best food; but it's use is now doubly objectionable, since disease in animals is so rapidly increasing. Those who use flesh foods little know what they are eating. Often if they could see the animals when living and know the quality of the meat they eat, they would turn from it with loathing."

To the topic of fish is stated on page 314
"In many places fish become so contaminated by the filth on whoich they feed as to be a cause of disease. This is especially the case where the fish come in contact with the sewage of large cities. The fish that are fed on the contents of the drains  may pass into distant waters and may be caught where the water is pure and fresh. ..... The effects of a flesh diet may not be immediately realized; but this is no evidence that it is not harmful."

God has provided us with reasons. Today I share with you an article from AP Health News, July 24th 2002. I do not have the follow up but will share it If I come across it. We have known of the murcury found in sea creatures but now the controversy flies in the face of the FDA. You would note that the FDA was ready to recommend limiting consumption of certain kinds of fish but held back because of public demand, interesting.  After reading the SOP statements above and the article below, I pray you see wisdom in God's counsel to us.
"

FAITH - As God's blessed sons & daughters we are to attempt the impossible to the extent that we will fail unless God steps in.   Keep the faith

Curt

  • Moderator
  • Posts: 1371
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2002, 11:17:00 AM »
FDA Looks Into Pregnant Women, Fish
July 24, 2002
BELTSVILLE, Md. (AP) -- Critics charge the Food and Drug Administration needs to tell pregnant women just how many types of fish are contaminated with enough mercury to hurt their unborn baby's developing brain.
The FDA has four species on its don't-eat-while-pregnant list - shark, swordfish, king mackerel and tilefish - but says a few servings a week of most other fish is healthy.
But amid fierce criticism from some consumer advocates that tuna and other species should be avoided, the FDA's independent scientific advisers have opened a three-day inquiry to judge if the agency erred - and if American women need stronger warnings.
"It was our genuine belief that if women consciously followed this advice ... these women would be protecting their unborn children," FDA food safety chief Joseph Levitt told the advisory panel Tuesday.
"It is an emotionally charged issue," Levitt acknowledged. "We are truly open and want your best advice, whether you agree with us or not."
The panel will issue a decision on Thursday.
Fish is very nutritious; certain types contain high levels of heart-healthy fats, plus fats important for fetal brain development. But different types also harbor different amounts of toxic mercury. Typically, the largest fish contain the most mercury.
Based on loose figures about U.S. fish consumption, some 60,000 newborns a year might be at risk of neurologic damage because of mercury their mothers absorbed during pregnancy, the National Academy of Sciences says.
About 8 percent of U.S. women of childbearing age have enough mercury in their blood, based on the academy's levels, to be at risk, says the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Those who eat three or more servings of fish a week had the highest levels.
Based on such evidence, the FDA last year advised that pregnant women and those wishing to become pregnant avoid the four species that contain the highest levels - but eat up to 12 ounces a week of any other cooked fish.
Following that advice should ensure women don't absorb enough mercury from fish to risk their infants suffering learning disabilities, the FDA decided, a point agency scientists will argue before the advisory panel Thursday.
But critics attacked the FDA for not including tuna steaks, which contain somewhat less mercury than swordfish. Some also urge pregnant women to curtail canned tuna consumption, although canned tuna is made from small tuna fish that contain far less mercury. Some even advise the women to avoid other species, such as sea bass and marlin.
One advocacy organization, the Environmental Working Group, also charges that FDA was prepared to limit tuna consumption but bowed to pressure from the seafood industry and backed off, a charge FDA denies.
The result is mass confusion - women don't know what to believe, consumer advocate Caroline Smith DeWaal of the Center for Science in the Public Interest told the FDA advisory panel.
Worse, she said, the FDA doesn't prevent the most heavily contaminated fish from being sold. Nor does it require warning labels on the fish pregnant women aren't supposed to eat, making it difficult for consumers to know the advice.
"It truly is a toothless tiger," she said.
But just how much mercury exposure is too much actually is controversial, scientists told the advisory panel Tuesday. Most of the data comes from two conflicting studies among populations that eat more mercury-laced seafood than most of the world:
-Babies born in the Faroe Islands in the North Atlantic, where people eat lots of highly contaminated whale meat, have a higher risk of certain subtle defects in memory and learning.
-Babies in the Indian Ocean's Seychelles Islands seem to suffer little if any effect. Women there eat mostly the same fish Americans do, but so much that their bodies contain 10 to 20 times more mercury than Americans'.
The FDA deems fish safe if they contain less than 1 part per million of methylmercury; the four types on its do-not-eat list exceed that level. Critics charge large tuna steaks can contain more, too, and certain other species contain only slightly less.
One of FDA's own advisers said Tuesday that he bought 11 cans of tuna fish at his grocery store, and independent testing showed one of them contained 1.2 ppm of mercury.
Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. All rights reserved

FAITH - As God's blessed sons & daughters we are to attempt the impossible to the extent that we will fail unless God steps in.   Keep the faith

Suzanne

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1297
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2002, 03:06:00 PM »
Fisherman's Death Tied to Flesh-Eating Bacteria

A rare flesh-eating bacteria has been blamed for the Aug. 1, 2002 death of a fisherman, officials in Boston said.

Al Holt, 69, died as a result of infection by Photobacterium damsela, which lives in fish. It is believed that Holt had a cut on his hand that allowed the bacteria to infect him when he went fishing July 15. The fast-moving infection destroyed tissue in Holt's left arm by the next day, then spread to his major organs.  --Los Angeles Times, Aug. 11, 2002.

Suzanne

[This message has been edited by Suzanne Sutton (edited 08-16-2002).]


Dugald T Lewis MD

  • Moderator at Rest
  • Posts: 2599
    • http://www.drdugaldlewis.com
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2002, 06:04:00 AM »
Great Topic!!

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 46248
  • Grace, more than a word, it is transforming power
    • The Remnant Online
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2002, 09:37:00 AM »
We are a little off topic, maybe Sister Suzanne can start a new topic relating to "Fish" in general. This particular disease in fish is not isolated to a few cases.

Richard

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

Curt

  • Moderator
  • Posts: 1371
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2002, 07:49:00 PM »
Wow,

thanks for catching that article Sister Suzanne and as Richard suggested we could put a thread specifically on the ills of eating fish today although I think we are good here.

I always wondered what caused that aweful flesh eating disease. It works very very quickly and is quite dangerous.

FAITH - As God's blessed sons & daughters we are to attempt the impossible to the extent that we will fail unless God steps in.   Keep the faith

Suzanne

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1297
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2002, 04:33:00 PM »
Yes, brethren, let's use this thread to include fish in general....

Some Scary Fish Tales

* A CNN report entitled Poisoned Catch, pointed out that fish are like sponges, soaking up toxic pollutants in the water. This is especially true of all shellfish. PCBs and dioxin have been found in all fish. Man, at the top of the food chain by eating contaminiated fish is at risk for various disorders.

* East-West Journal - Oct. 1990: Crabs, lobsters, shrimp and crayfish are in the same group as cockroaches (arthopods).

* Letter to editor, Los Angeles Times. My cousin works in a restaurant where only the highest-quality ingredients are used. However, she tells me that often the fish has worms in it when it comes in. They simply discard the worms and cook the fish. (Do you suppose they miss some?)

* Remedy, July/Aug. 1995 - A headline grabbing Harvard study of nearly 45,000 men found that it made no difference whether men ate fish once a month or 6 times a week--their heart-disease rate was the same. Taking fish-oil capsules didn't help either.

* Parade Magazine, aug. 6, 1995 - Shellfish are involved in 66 percent of all cases of seafood illnesses.

* Raw or lightly cooked fish can harbor several types of parasitic worms. Mercury poisoning is a well-known risk of eating tuna and other kinds of fish.

* A. Vogel, writing in The Nature Doctor: "I once watched a sick man spit into a lake somewhere in Switzerland. At once a trout surfaced and swallowed the unusual bait. Yet it could well have been the sputum of a consumptive. And it is not impossible to imagine that the fish might be caught and served up on one's table the next day."

* The caution regarding fish on pages 314-315, of The Ministry of Healing, is indeed appropo at this time.

Suzanne


Suzanne

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1297
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2003, 10:27:00 AM »
Farmed Salmon Danger

The Environmental Working Group (EWG) has issued a report stating that farmed salmon contain concentrations of PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls)--substances linked to cancer--that are 5 to 10 times higher than those found in salmon fished from the ocean, according to tests
commissioned by the organization.

Not only were 110 different PCBs found in farmed salmon but higher levels of 151 other chemical contaminants were also found. PCBs come from contaminants in the environment, such as hydraulic fluids. They have been banned since the 1970s, except in enclosed areas, but persist in the environment and can accumulate in animal fats, including those of the small fish fed to farmed salmon. Farmed salmon also accumulate PCBs from the fishmeal they are fed, which includes ground fish. The EWG recommends that people should eat farmed salmon no more than once a month. --Let's Live, Dec. 2003.

Comment: We, of course, have advanced directives from the Spirit of Prophecy pointing out that all fish, flesh and fowl is contaminated and/or poses other dangers, etc. and should be avoided.

~Suzanne~

[This message has been edited by Suzanne Sutton (edited 12-14-2003).]


Suzanne

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1297
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2003, 11:08:00 AM »
More on the Dangers of Fish and all Flesh Food

Hormones that leak into streams from cattle feedlots are altering the sexual characteristics of wild fish, demasculinizing the males and defeminizing the females, according to a new study. (What about those who eat these unnatural creatures?)

These findings suggests that cattle operations pose a previously unknown effect on the environment. Up to 30 million head of cattle are raised in U.S. feedlots every year and nearly all are implanted with growth-promoting synthetic hormones.

Researchers from 5 U.S. institutions, led by the University of Florida in Gainesville, found "significant alterations in the reproductive biology" of fish immediately downstream from a large Nebraska feedlot. The male fish had about one-third less testosterone and testes about half as big as unexposed fish upstream. The female fish have 20 percent less estrogen and 45 percent more testosterone than females from the uncontaminated section of stream.

An important finding was that lab tests confirmed that feedlot effluent contained a complex and potent mix of androgens, the male sex hormones, and estrogens, the female hormones, according to Edward Orlando, the study's lead author.

The study is certain to fuel ongoing controversies over the safety of growth hormones in beef and increase pressure on the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to tighten rules for livestock operations.  

"Cattle can be treated with any number of chemicals or chemical combinations, including androgens and estrogens," according to Earl Gray, a reproductive toxicologist at the EPA's health effects labortory who also is an author of the study. He deplores the fast that there are lots of questions but few answers in assessing the findings.

Up to 99 percent of the nation's largest factory-sized cattle feedlots and 90 percent of the smaller ones use hormone implants, which stimulate growth in castrated bulls and help them produce more and meat and less fat, according to a survey by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Some implants contain trenbolone, a potent androgenic steroid, and zeranol, a fake estrogen. In lab test, trenbolone feminizes male fish and causes male-like characteristics in female fish. Some synthetic hormones, including trenbolone, last for months or years in manure piles and waste ponds.

The ability of dozens of contaminants, mostly pesticides and pharmaceuticals, to mimic hormones has been a growing concern since the early 1990s, when researchers began finding mixed-up sexual characteristics in wild animals, including alligators and polar bears. In humans, studies have linked contaminants to lower sperm counts and premature puberty.

The European Union has banned U.S. hormone-treated beef. --adapted from the Los Angeles Times, Dec. 11, 2003.

~Suzanne~


Suzanne

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1297
Fish, Un-Born Babies and Mercury
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2004, 04:08:00 PM »
Texas Man Dies From Flesh-Eating Bacteria

HOUSTON (AP) - A man has died from flesh-eating bacteria that entered his body through a minor cut on his leg.

Dr. Kenneth Dean Creamer, 52, a Houston dentist, died August 12, 2004 in a Victoria hospital where had had been treated since July 17, two days after he was exposed to the saltwater bacteria vibrio vulnificus.

Dr. Creamer apparently hurt himself July 15 when he slipped on a dock during a fishing trip. Within days, both of his legs had to be amputated and he went into a coma, according to a hospital spokesperson.

The doctotr is the 7th vibrio-related death in Texas this year, according to the Texas Dept. of Health. The federal Centers for Disease Control said a typical year brings 16 vibrio-related deaths in the Gulf Coast states.

Health experts note that the bacteria is common in the Gulf and most prevalent in coastal and bay waters in the warmer months. The bacteria can be ingested in contaminated seafood or absorbed through skin wounds. --adapted from the Associated Press.

Suzanne