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« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2012, 08:01:20 PM »
The numbers are relatively small for CJD. It is increasing. But, if Alzheimer's proves to be an infectious spongiform disease, then the numbers are huge and growing rapidly. And, I think that to be the case. There is enough evidence to suggest the relationship. There are many ways to die, but none are as devastating as losing one's mind. And, if I am right, and Alzheimer's is infectious from spongiform animals, then it was all preventable if the truth were made known that eating animal products is a source of infection.
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« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2012, 05:06:42 AM »
A non-SDA family I know lost their mother last year to a "rare kind of brain cancer" the Dr's had not seen before. Her brain was full of holes like a sponge. When I heard that I became very suspicious. The interesting thing is that her mind was good right up to the end and she didn't suffer except for some dizziness and black outs once in awhile. There was no autopsy done.
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« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2012, 12:03:49 PM »
I don't believe they are very interested in keeping track of the spongiform diseases. Something like this ought be studied a little more to make sure it is not connected to spongiform disease. From my understanding there is no mandatory reporting of some of these human diseases.
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« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2012, 01:44:54 PM »
I believe this will develop as did HIV and AIDS. Until it hits the home of "those in charge," it will remain on a shelf as something they know about but do not have a high level of concern. The day will come when they do, if your suspicions are correct. 
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« Reply #124 on: April 12, 2012, 06:48:48 PM »
I ran across this while reading on the current research in TSEs.  It is a study done in 2003 and published in the British Medical Bulletin.

The lesion profiles in mice infected with sCJD were similar for the six sources and strikingly different from those seen in mice with BSE or vCJD (Fig. 3). Serial mouse-to-mouse passage of sCJD isolates has yielded a unique strain that is distinct from the pair of strains isolated from BSE. These results indicate that sCJD, even in dairy farmers potentially exposed to BSE, is associated with a different TSE strain from that causing vCJD or BSE.


It is not often, if ever, we will find a statement saying "even in dairy farmers potentially exposed to BSE" when dealing with sCJD.  Again, s is "sporadic" CJD and there is no cause, it just happens. Well, here the scientist is thinking that maybe there is a connection between BSE and sCJD.  In the study they took vCJD and infected mice with it. The text can be read here.  source
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« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2012, 03:18:12 PM »
It took many years, but now the tide is turning. What we have known for a long time is coming to light.

Seven main threats for the future linked to prions

The NeuroPrion network has identified seven main threats for the future linked to prions.

First threat

The TSE road map defining the evolution of European policy for protection against prion diseases is based on a certain numbers of hypotheses some of which may turn out to be erroneous. In particular, a form of BSE (called atypical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy), recently identified by systematic testing in aged cattle without clinical signs, may be the origin of classical BSE and thus potentially constitute a reservoir, which may be impossible to eradicate if a sporadic origin is confirmed. Also, a link is suspected between atypical BSE and some apparently sporadic cases of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans. These atypical BSE cases constitute an unforeseen first threat that could sharply modify the European approach to prion diseases.
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Sharply modify is just the right use of the words. Sporadic CJD has a cause and our friends are finally getting the picture right. And, it scares them. It ought to if they continue to eat animal products. And, even if they don't continue, with up to a 50 year incubation period, it is already too late for many who have been eating and drinking animal products for a long time.
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« Reply #126 on: August 16, 2012, 06:07:38 AM »
Second threat

In small ruminants, a new atypical form of scrapie currently represents up to 50% of detected cases and even involves sheep selected for resistance to classical scrapie. The consequences for animal and human health are still unknown and there may be a potential connection with atypical BSE. These atypical scrapie cases constitute a second threat not envisioned previously which could deeply modify the European approach to prion diseases.
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« Reply #127 on: September 03, 2012, 06:16:35 AM »
Third threat

The species barrier between human and cattle might be weaker than previously expected and the risk of transmission of prion diseases between different species has been notoriously unpredictable. The emergence of new atypical strains in cattle and sheep together with the spread of chronic wasting disease in cervids renders the understanding of the species barrier critical. This constitutes a third threat not properly envisioned previously that could deeply modify the European approach to prion diseases.


I understand that many reading this do not understand what is being said, and many others are not reading this. Let me express a thought that is woven throughout the posts in this Healthful Living Forum. Few understand the threat to their health and happiness posed by the eating of animal products. What is being stated by this European group has profound importance to all living on this planet. Cancer, Alzheimer's, and many other fatal and non-fatal diseases are being transmitted through this vector. The connection between animal diseases and human diseases is much more than we have been told. Here in this message, we find a warning so dire that to read it and to go on with life without understanding what the implications are will be a great mistake. In other words, we are being told. Wake up!  If you are not eating animal products then realize that God is giving you something to tell those whom you love that do not understand the dangers. To lose one's life is sad, but to lose one's mind before they die is not a good way to go.

Read again the warning, the admission that there has been a failure in the past to understand the real threat to human life posed by sick animals.  You will not hear this being reported in the media of the world. The cost to the economy is too great to spread this news far and wide.

The species barrier between human and cattle might be weaker than previously expected and the risk of transmission of prion diseases between different species has been notoriously unpredictable. The emergence of new atypical strains in cattle and sheep together with the spread of chronic wasting disease in cervids renders the understanding of the species barrier critical. This constitutes a third threat not properly envisioned previously that could deeply modify the European approach to prion diseases.

Translation:  The touted barrier between mad cows, mad sheep, mad deer and people may not exist. In other words, many species of animals, like the ones mentioned and others like pigs, chicken, fish and their eggs, and milk, are now being seen as a risk for transmitting prion diseases to people.

The world has been warned.
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« Reply #128 on: September 03, 2012, 06:40:24 AM »
Fourth threat

Prion infectivity has now been detected in blood, urine and milk and this has potential consequences on risk assessments for the environment and food as well as for contamination of surfaces including medical instruments. Furthermore the procedures recommended for decontamination of MBM (Meat and Bone Meal), which are based on older methodologies not designed for this purpose, have turned out to be of very limited efficacy and compromise current policies concerning the reuse of these high value protein supplements (cross-contamination of feed circuits are difficult to control). It should be noted that the destruction or very limited use of MBM is estimated to still cost 1 billion euros per year to the European economy, whereas other countries, including the US, Brazil, and Argentine do not have these constraints. However, many uncertainties remain concerning the guarantees that can be reasonably provided for food and feed safety and scientific knowledge about the causative agents (prions) will continue to evolve. This decontamination and environmental issue is a fourth threat that could modify deeply the European approach to prion diseases.


We are being warned!

Translation:

As we have been preaching for many years, animal products, eggs and dairy products, are a risk for the transmission of Mad Cow Disease and Mad Sheep Disease. Do not think that drinking raw goat milk is not a high risk for the transmission of fatal diseases. The disinfecting of medical instruments is being questioned. The feedstock for animals is seen to be at risk. And, notice what I made mention of in my last post. There is a great economic loss from dealing with this situation in an appropriate manner. What has been stated here is important to note. One billion dollars every year is what they say it will cost to deal with the meat and bone meal problem in Europe. But, even more telling is why they would be reluctant to do it. Competition in the world market would make is very hard to put into practice what they know needs to be done to protect animal and human health. "other countries, including the US, Brazil, and Argentine do not have these constraints."  The U.S. will not modify their policy on MBM, thus leaving their customers at high risk, but also making it impossible for Europe to compete if they do restrict the current policy that is seen to be ineffective at removing the risk for the transmission of prion diseases.

We have been warned!
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« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2012, 12:07:20 AM »
Fifth threat

The precise nature of prions remains elusive. Very recent data indicate that abnormal prion protein (PrPTSE) can be generated from the brains of normal animals, and under some conditions (including contaminated waste water) PrPTSE can be destroyed whereas the BSE infectious titre remains almost unchanged, a finding that underlines the possibility of having BSE without any detectable diagnostic marker. These are just two areas of our incomplete knowledge of the fundamental biology of prions which constitute a fifth threat to the European approach to prion diseases.


There is some  honesty being shown here. These people must not own any cows or sheep. If it were not for our faith in God, it would be very hard to go to the doctor or dentist.  And, our drinking water was already bad enough without telling us that water treatment may not be able to remove the infectious prion disease.  Many cities depend upon waste water treatment for drinking water. The sewer water is treated, then where does it go? Into rivers that provide irrigation for food crops, and municipal drinking water. But, the primary concern all ought to have before reading these new cautions, but especially after reading here, is the eating of animal products. That includes dairy and eggs. The risk is too great.
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« Reply #130 on: September 23, 2012, 02:04:58 PM »
Sixth threat

The absence of common methods and standardisation in the evaluation of multiple in vivo models with different prion strains and different transgenic mice expressing PrP from different species (different genotypes of cattle, sheep, cervids, etc) renders a complete and comprehensive analysis of all the data generated by the different scientific groups almost impossible. This deeply impairs risk assessment. Moreover, the possibility of generating PrPTSE de novo with new powerful techniques has raised serious questions about their appropriateness for use as blood screening tests. The confusion about an incorrect interpretation of positive results obtained by these methods constitutes a sixth threat to European approach to prion diseases.
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« Reply #131 on: September 25, 2012, 12:27:39 PM »
Seventh Threat

The detection of new or re-emerging prion diseases in animals or humans which could lead to a new crisis in consumer confidence over the relaxation of precautionary measures and surveillance programmes constitutes a seventh threat that could modify the European approach to prion diseases.


This is what is happening and will happen more. Like cancer, prion diseases are not limited to just a few kind.  As I been writing for many years, there is enough scientific evidence to suggest that Ahlzheimer's may be a prion disease. In which case, humans have been infected for many years and at an ever increasing rate. There is no safety in eating animal products because of the increase in their diseases. Many are transferred to people.
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« Reply #132 on: September 25, 2012, 12:46:41 PM »
I read the other day chewy candies like jelly beans, Gummy Bears, and Knox gelatin, Jello, are made from the hoves of cattle. Frankly, a vast number of things we eat probably has some slaughtered animal parts in them. It is far, far, beyond that time when meat was considered to be safe. All mostly because of the evil tampering of men.

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« Reply #133 on: September 26, 2012, 10:51:15 AM »
Carl, we have  topic on gelatin. It is most dangerous. For awhile it was imported from the UK when other cow products were not. It can carry Mad Cow Disease. Many are fearful because it is often made with pig, but that is not the greatest risk any more. The government was assured that the manufacturing process rendered the BSE, Mad Cow Disease harmless, so they allowed its importation. They later acknowledged that this was not so and the BSE was still infectious in the gelatin.
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« Reply #134 on: September 26, 2012, 12:12:25 PM »
Yet, most of the world's billions eat meat from anywhere and lots of it. My neighbors have beef, pork, and poultry couple times a day, seven days a week. Scary thought Richard.

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« Reply #135 on: September 26, 2012, 12:50:30 PM »
It is a blessing to be able to share with those who are open to truth what they can do to prevent many of the terrible diseases that are ravaging the world. And, at the same time be able to show them that we care about them, the "right am" works.  And, because we were given great light on this over 100 years ago, there is a great responsibility resting upon all in the church to give this warning. It is very sad to see young children being given milk by their parents thinking they are helping them.  We know and with that understanding comes accountability.  One day we shall hear "you knew and did not tell me?"
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« Reply #136 on: October 18, 2012, 09:18:19 AM »
We cannot protect ourselves from all threats in this world. We are dependent upon God for our protection. But, we must do what we can to prevent disease from overcoming us. A healthy Bible based diet is an important part of remaining disease free. There are other considerations when it comes to infectious disease. We understand the importance of washing our hands. Here is something else that will help to impress upon our minds the need to practice good hygiene

Avian scavengers, such as American crows (Corvus brachyrhynchos), have potential to translocate infectious agents (prions) of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) diseases including chronic wasting disease, scrapie, and bovine spongiform encephalopathy. We inoculated mice with fecal extracts obtained from 20 American crows that were force-fed material infected with RML-strain scrapie prions. These mice all evinced severe neurological dysfunction 196–231 d postinoculation ( = 198; 95% CI: 210–216) and tested positive for prion disease. Our results suggest a large proportion of crows that consume prion-positive tissue are capable of passing infectious prions in their feces ( = 1.0; 95% CI: 0.8–1.0). Therefore, this common, migratory North American scavenger could play a role in the geographic spread of TSE diseases.

Kurt C. VerCauteren*, John L. Pilon¤a, Paul B. Nash¤b, Gregory E. Phillips, Justin W. Fischer

United States Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Wildlife Services, National Wildlife Research Center, Fort Collins, Colorado, United States of America


We see here a very real threat to human health from Mad Cow Disease and other TSE diseases such as Scrapie, Chronic Wasting Disease, and CJD. Prions are not easily rendered incapable of transmitting disease. They are very infectious and appear to be long lasting. One high risk activity that comes to mind is the practice of collecting drinking water from the surface of roofs. This is a common practice in some countries. Once the bird droppings land on the roof, there is great danger to human health.
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« Reply #137 on: October 18, 2012, 10:24:31 AM »
I am amazed at the additional threat from such a common source. Amen to your statement on us doing what we can to prevent disease. Otherwise, for those unavoidable elements, God must be our protector!
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« Reply #138 on: May 07, 2013, 11:33:57 AM »
Ten thousand shall fall at our side. "Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; [nor] for the arrow that flieth by day;  Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.  A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee." Psalms 91:5-7.

From an article dated yesterday, May 6, "Professor Marc Turner, medical director for the Scottish National Blood Transfusion Service, said shortfalls in technology mean blood donors are not screened for the passive form of variant (vCJD), otherwise known as mad cow disease. Some 2500 Scots are estimated to be "silent" carriers of defective proteins that have caused people to develop the deadly brain-wasting illness, which can kill sufferers in 12 to 18 months."

The article goes on to say "Humans cannot now contract vCJD from eating British beef, following the culling of millions of cows in the late 1980s." That is an amazing statement to make. With the unknowns involved, I would not want to make such a statement.

British Government officials believe that one in 20,000 Britons carry a dormant form that could be passed on in blood donations. According to Professor Turner  "most people over the age of 16 or 17 would have been exposed to BSE in the food chain, especially during the 1980s, and warned that in principle those exposed could have been infected with a form of vCJD."

"Most people over 17"?  That does not bode well for the British or anyone else who ate British beef or sheep. Being exposed to, that is eating Mad Cows, is a most serious disaster. Incubation periods are very long in some cases. source
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« Reply #139 on: May 19, 2015, 04:10:04 PM »
We have noted in other posts that prions, the infective agent in the transmission of spongiform diseases such as Mad Cow, Mad Sheep, and Mad Deer diseases, can infect soil for extended periods of time. It is now seen that the prions can move from the roots of plants to higher up structures in plants. This is bad news for animals and humans. The prions can be excreted in urine and feces in cows, sheep, goats, deer, elk, cats, mink, and who knows what other animals that can be carriers of spongiform diseases. 

Grass Plants Bind, Retain, Uptake, and Transport Infectious Prions

Sandra Pritzkow, Rodrigo Morales, Fabio Moda3, Uffaf Khan, Glenn C. Telling, Edward Hoover, Claudio Soto
IRCCS Foundation Carlo Besta Neurological Institute, 20133 Milan, Italy; May 14, 2015

Prions are the protein-based infectious agents responsible for prion diseases. Environmental prion contamination has been implicated in disease transmission. Here, we analyzed the binding and retention of infectious prion protein (PrPSc) to plants. Small quantities of PrPSc contained in diluted brain homogenate or in excretory materials (urine and feces) can bind to wheat grass roots and leaves. Wild-type hamsters were efficiently infected by ingestion of prion-contaminated plants. The prion-plant interaction occurs with prions from diverse origins, including chronic wasting disease. Furthermore, leaves contaminated by spraying with a prion-containing preparation retained PrPSc for several weeks in the living plant. Finally, plants can uptake prions from contaminated soil and transport them to aerial parts of the plant (stem and leaves). These findings demonstrate that plants can efficiently bind infectious prions and act as carriers of infectivity, suggesting a possible role of environmental prion contamination in the horizontal transmission of the disease
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