COFFEE

[Suzanne]

Coffee and Rheumatoid Arthritis

A new study raises the possibility that people who drink a lot of coffee might be more likely to develop the debilitating immune system disease, rheumatoid arthritis.

The Finnish study, published in the British Medical Association journal Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases, found that people who drank more than 3 cups a day had twice the chance of getting the disease as those who drank less.  --Riverside, Calif. Press-Enterprise, July 26, 2000.

A reminder from Inspiration: "The continued use of these nerve irritants (hard tea and coffee, etc.) is followed by headache, wakefulness, palpitation of the heart, indigestion, trembling, and many other evils, for they wear away the life forces. Tired nerves need rest and quiet instead of stimulation and overwork."  --Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 424.

Healthfully yours,
Sr. Suzanne

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[Gerry C. Wagoner]

As I understand it, there is enough caffeine in a cup of coffee to kill you.  120 milligrams.  Inject that amount directly into the bloodstream and you'll die.  So why doesn't a cup coffee kill a person?

In fact, after drinking it addicts feel great!  The body, however must neutralize this toxin.  To do so, it (your body) needs calcium.  It looks to the stomach and says"  Where's the calcium?, you were supposed to bring it in with this caffeine."  Not there...  
So, the liver, whose job it is to neutralize this toxin, goes to the bones and says  "I need some calcium to get my job done!  Can I borrow some?"  

"Sure."

Operating on faith, the liver adds "We'll  pay you back!" (Assuming that the digestive system will receive enough calcium in the diet intake to pay back what it borrowed).  This goes on for years... But it rarely gets paid back (if ever).  Thus, Americans, who are among the highest dairy-consuming nations in the world are also becoming the most calcium-deficient. Strange.

The reason is, Americans rank at the top of the nations consuming substances that rob calcium from the body.  Meat, caffeine, acids etc...
Thus, osteoporosis is considerd normal for people nearing retirement age.  Notice the steadily increasing FDA recommndation for daily calcium 400-800-1600.  Yet, we are still deficient--except for those who eat for fuel instead of for pleasure.  A vegetarian diet provides plenty of calcium, while avoiding substances that rob calcium from the body.  God's counsel to Ellen still makes perfect sense!

gcw

[Suzanne]

Medical scientists have found that coffee can push blood pressure to unhealthy levels when taken in stressful situations. William R. Lovallo and fellow researchers at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Oklahoma City found that caffeine alone pushed blood pressure up in 31 male medical students they tested. Their blood pressure rose even higher with the stress of exam days. Students who already had high blood pressure, or who had a family history and thus consiedered at risk, had the highest blood-pressure spikes.

These medical scientists conclude that it may be wise for those at high risk for hypertension to limit their routine use of caffeinated beverages, especially when involved in stress-related situations.  --The Reader's Digest, October 2000

[Gerry C. Wagoner]

Thanks Suzanne.  Nothing surprises me about coffee.

A friend just asked me this question concerning calcium:

"I heard that the average human male under the age of 40 produces more calcium than the body can use, and thus we pass it in our urine. Is that not true?
The reason I ask -- when i was 17 I was thrown from a car resulting in a severely broken pelvis, ruptured bladder and severed ureathra.

During recovery, I wore a suprapubic catheter (sp?) which at one point became completely clogged with calcium deposit.

MY Urologist was the source of the info in the first paragrapph which was given as an explanation for the build up in the cath.

Comments??? Look forward to your response."

submitted by gcw

[Suzanne]

Sorry Gerry:  

Was unable to find the info you wanted on calcium. Will be on the lookout for whatever info I can find.

[Helen Thompson]

Why do some of our church pastors serve coffee at church gatherings. A month or two ago coffee and tea was served at our Pathfinder leaders retreat. there was one person there that was trying to get off marajuana,do yuo think this would help? No, I don't think so. This poor soul needs our prayers,besides our pastors.

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[WendyForsyth]

That is amazing! It is just as easy to serve Postum and herbal teas, isn't it? Seems the church is going downhill in more ways than one.

Wendy
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Maranatha!!!

[Suzanne]

This subject seems to come up regularly on SDA forums. Here is more info:

Bruce Amers, noted professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at U.C. Berkeley, points out that more than 1,000 chemicals have been identified in roasted coffee. Only 26 of these have been tested for carcinogenesis in rodents and 19 of them turned out to cause cancer.

Dr. Ames emphasizes that there are still about a thousand chemicals left to be tested in coffee and who knows how many of these will be found to cause cancer. --Let's Live, Nov. 1996.

[Suzanne]

Brothers and sisters, I simply cannot keep silent on this issue. So many of our SDA members and churches have started and continue to drink this very questionable beverage. PLEASE!!! Let us hear what science and Inspiration have to say regarding this:

An article entitled "Coffee Head" was featured in the March 1979 issue of "Prevention."  Some excerpts:

Caffeine may be the number one drug problem in the U.S. Verner Stillner, M.D., says caffeine is the most utilized and abused drug around the world.

The American Pharmaceutical Association's Handbook on Nonprescription Drugs says, "Doses larger than 250 mg (caffeine) often cause insomnia, restlessness, irritability, nervousness, tremor, headaches and in rare cases, a mild form of delirium manifested as perceived noises and flashes of light" (5th edition, 1977). It takes just 2 cups of strong, black coffee to deliver 300 mg. of caffeine, and a survey found that Americans aged 10 and over drink coffee at a rate of 2.06 cups per person per day.

Michael Popkin, M.D. an associate professor of psychiatry and medicine at the University of Minnesota, says people tend to overlook the fact that caffeine is a drug with behavioral consequences...

...But you say that you use decaffeinated coffee... Remember that there are many other chemicals in coffee that can present problems...More on this later.

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[Won Bae]

Coffee is a minor problem among adventists.  You should see how many people are eating meat, now.  As some one said so many public are trying to be vegetariens, while so many SDA's are getting out of vegetarianism. So many SDA's are not taking Mrs. White's warning seriously, any more including my own grown children. It is sad.

Won

[Suzanne]

You are indeed right, Br. Won:

So many of our Adventists have given up on the health message, while so many in the "world" are embracing health issues, including vegetarainism. What's going on? Kinda makes me think of the warning: "The first shall be last, and the last shall be first." However this does not have to be if each individual determines that he/she will follow through with all the counsel the Lord has been so gracious in giving us through the "Spirit of Prophecy."

Let us keep our children--raised Adventist...in our prayers, asking the Lord to impress their hearts and minds with the truths that are so familiar to them.

"Lord, we ask you to help our grown children in a special way that they will remember their roots and the things they learned in our homes as Adventists. Forgive us where we have not measured up and impress each heart even at this very moment of the precious truths of your word. We give you all the praise, honor and glory. Thank you for parents that are concerned for their offspring!"  

[DavidTBattler]

Brother Gerry

I have quite a few year's experience in nursing; and when I read your post above, an idea came to my mind.

In my experiences, and training; I saw people of various ages, who were immobilized for long periods of time.  Immobility, in and of itself, can cause havoc with the body's calcium and circulation system.

What you described about calcium deposits in your s/p catheter is something that I saw quite commonly in people who were immobilized for periods of time.  Increased fluids, range of motion exercise, special diets, were some ways that this sedimentation problem was countered.  Sometimes, the catheter line would need to be flushed with normal saline, or the line changed.

If you can think of other questions to ask me about this, you are most welcome anytime

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"...We believe that through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, we shall be saved..."  (Acts 15:11).

Your brother in Christ

David T. Battler

[Dugald T Lewis MD]

This is a vital topic that must be continued. Many of our people now use coffee as if it were a health drink. Its terrible that this poison is so popular today. The dangers of tobacco tea, and coffee were the basis of the first health vision given to us.

DTL

[Curt]

Coffee .......

Wish they would try the grain beverages the Lord has blessed us with. A good cup of the old POSTUM comes to mind as well as there are other varieties. A good coffee substitute can be made at home by drying a mixture of bran and molasses in the oven very low and overnight to a crusty loose mixture. This can then be brewed just as one would brew coffee.

For me, I use a cup of hot molasses at night.
1-2 teaspoons of Blackstrap Molasses (anything else is something much less in quality).
To this add some honey and some good creamy soya milk  .
Some find molasses sweet and may want to leave out the honey. This drink puts me to sleep quite gracefully.

Overall, I just love the taste of a good hot cup of Postum, the closest taste to coffee I guess.

[Clive Nevell]

I am now seeing that some Adventists are changing over to decaffeinated coffee. Is it only the caffeine in it that is harmful?

Clive

[Curt]

Caffeine, Caffeine, Caffeine

We need to look at the official classification for terms like, organic and de-caffeinated.

De-caffeinated does not mean "caffeine free" as it implies. There is still caffeine in it and caffeine in small insignificant doses or large doses is habit forming. It is like asking :
Do you want to have a health concern in a week or a year?

We should refrain from even the "image" to the beast  

[Joan]

I like a hot drink first off each morning. I got a bit tired of postum like brands here so I went looking for something non-caffeine type something as I was in Holland. They had in their reform foods shops a dried roasted chicorey instant type of drink to buy. With a bit of hotwater and ursweet it tastes just alright. Do you have it too where you live ?

Joan

[Clive Nevell]

Thanks for the info Curt, did not know that.
I am not a hot drink person even in winter.
Clive

[Curt]

Joanie  

Clivie  

The Old Postum is about the closest taste to coffee. There are many roasted grain beverges available and I would suggest anyone wanting to get off coffee to try to get on to these instead of going the decaf route. They will have much difficulty to leave coffee on the decaf path.

Joan, see my earlier post on the molasses drink. I use a tea spoon or two of "blackstrap" molasses.

[Clive Nevell]

I asked about coffee being caf-free and was sent this back
Clive

"Clive,

Good question.  From what I have read, there remains small amounts of caffeine in decaf coffees ranging from .5% - 3% depending on which decaf process is used and which source you want to quote.  A modest amount, but perhaps still too much to those hyper-sensitive to caffeine???

FYI:  Our CO2 processed decafs have a lot of flavor.

Hope this helps.

Adam Bezark
Casteel Coffee"