Author Topic: COFFEE (Read 29706 times)

Joan · « **Reply #20 on:** May 17, 2002, 04:03:00 AM »

Blackstrap Molasses, eh

Now here comes a cultural translation problem. As a kid I poured molasses onto my flapjacks. But now in this culture I stay away from much that is syrup-y because my menu's don't have waffles, pancakes, or crepes in them. Alfred never want anything of such sorts so I haven't bought molasses over here. I know it is different than maple syrup.

Is Blackstrap Molasses made from corn syrup ?

I have a new soja milch making apparatus. It works great for making the beans into milk. But the milch is not creamy. Do you know how I can make it creamy ?

Joan

Curt · « **Reply #21 on:** May 19, 2002, 09:36:00 AM »

Clive : thank you for posting. Those levels qualify for the title of "De-Caffeinated" coffee. Which goes back to my point that "de-caf" is not "caffeine free". Why do we want to walk in uncertain territory?

Joan : Blackstrap molasses is the real fist draw of the molasses before further processing and is rich in minerals, chromium, calcium, iron, etc. It has 5 times more absorbable calcium than milk. Black strap is preferred if no sulphur is used (un-sulphured) although not always available. The "Table" and "Fancy" molasses sold is too refined and no real benefit to anyone. IT is dressed to sell and taste. Molasses makes a good mineral tomic for adults and kids by taking a tablespoon or two daily.

WendyForsyth · « **Reply #22 on:** May 19, 2002, 04:23:00 PM »

Joan,

You can make the milk creamier by running it through the machine twice. This should improve the consistency. Hope this helps!

Love,
WendyF

Mr David T Battler · « **Reply #23 on:** May 24, 2002, 12:31:00 AM »

While working in the health profession for years, I was taught a basic principle which I believe would apply here, and would be supported to, by inspiration.

It is one thing to tell people to quit eating or drinking something that is no god for them.

It is quite another thing, to teach them healthy and practical ways of doing so.

So let us begin to apply this principle here.

Many times, it is not safe for a person to quit coffee drinking suddenly.

The physical withdrawal symptoms can get so severe, that the individual can be almost disabled from doing their regular, daily living functions.

Particularly troublesome, is the tachicardia, fatigue, and the severe headaches and thirst that can be experienced by those wishing to quit drinking coffee.

What can people do about these symptoms when they are really severe, so that they can keep their job and look after their kids?

At what point should these withdrawal symptoms be classed as serious enough, to warrant medical attention?

Are there certain groups of people, with certain health problems, that should only withdraw from coffee, under medical supervision? If so, what kind of supervision would be best?

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A true watchman comforts the afflicted, and afflicts the comfortable. (see Isa.52:

Sincerely
Mr David T Battler

Curt · « **Reply #24 on:** May 24, 2002, 03:52:00 PM »

Good questions.

Consider someone on hard drugs who goes for detox. They are placed on a strict program, helped through the rough spot of withdrawal and survive. What is the difference between that process and that of someone who is in control of their preferences going off of what is unhealthy and taking years to do it? Will people giving up coffee, tea, tobacco or alcohol die because of the experience of withdrawal or will they have discomfort? Two different things.

I have seen chain smokers quit suddenly with minimal complaint and other casual smokers complain of the withdrawal sympoms. What makes the difference? When advised properly smokers know that they would experience symptoms of anxiety, possible depression, diarrhea or constipation, extreme thirst, scratching in the throat, headaches etc. and they get pass their rough spot within days to a week if they stay on the program and move on happily thereafter. Same for extreme coffee drinkers. What they need in making these changes is first to be educated as to the benefits of the change, secondly informed as to what to expect when making the change. Thirdly, they need to be introduced to the one who can make the change an experience with Him or painless, and lastly put on the God's Plan diet.

When making these changes it is best to do a good whole food diet such as fruits for say three days then vegetables (raw preferrably) for another two days, then on to a good whole food and high fiber diet. There must be free consumption of much water, daily exercise and good early rest. Add to this a good bulk fibre product to help with the cleaning and improve elimination (psyllium). Take two days off while making the changes to reduce your stress. They will be fine and come out rejoicing.

The ability to make these changes from what is injurious to what is healthful is more mind than body.

It works

Dugald T Lewis MD · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2002, 06:30:00 PM »

Studies Warn Against Complacency in Coffee Drinking
May 21, 2002 Silver Spring, Maryland, USA .... [Bettina Krause/Ansel Oliver/ANN]

As little as one cup of coffee can cause a temporary increase in the stiffening of the arteries according to researchers.

Two new studies show that as little as one cup of coffee can cause a temporary increase in the stiffening of arterial walls. Researchers at Athens Medical School in Greece looked at the effects of caffeine on a group of people with normal blood pressure, and a group that had mild hypertension, or elevated blood pressure.

In findings released last week, the researchers also said that the equivalent of two or three cups of coffee temporarily raised blood pressure in the group with hypertension and increased stiffness in the aorta--the main artery leaving the heart.

Chief researcher Dr. Charalambos Vlachopoulos said that while further research is needed to understand the long-term effects of this arterial stiffening, this extra load on the heart is something that people with high blood pressure may wish to avoid.

DeWitt Williams, health ministries director for the Seventh-day Adventist Church in North America, says he is not surprised by the studies' findings.

The pervasive use of coffee in today's society has lulled many people into thinking that caffeine is harmless, he says. But he points to a litany of adverse health problems that have long been associated with caffeine use, including: increases in the rate of irregular heartbeats; decreased blood flow to the liver; increases in cholesterol; and interference with the absorption of important minerals, such as iron. One milligram of calcium is lost for every 10 milligrams of caffeine consumed, he says, and one cup of strong coffee has 103 milligrams of caffeine.

"Coffee may perk you up in the short term, but in the long run it lets you down," says Williams. "Not only is it associated with heart problems, but it has also been linked to bladder cancer. Those who drink two cups of coffee a day double their risk of bladder cancer versus those who don't drink any at all."

For more than 100 years the Adventist Church has recommended that people avoid caffeine and other non-medicinal drugs as part of a healthy, balanced lifestyle that includes good nutrition and exercise, as well as attention to the social and spiritual aspects of life.

SOURCE: ANN News

Clive Nevell · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2002, 10:06:00 AM »

I have never been a coffee drinker and do not like the taste of it. Must thank my mum for not introducing it to us. (she has since passed away)

I had an experiance once that backs up what has been found out to be true now.

I was visiting a friend in hospital who had just had a bad heart attack and was still in ICU. He was a big coffe drinker and wanted it still while in ICU. The Doc said to him to look at the machine that was monitoring his heart beay while he drank the coffee. I know he was weak and recovering but he told me that as soon as he drank his coffee the heart beat started to increase. The Doc advised to cut out or at least reduce his coffee intake to help his heart to recover.
He did reduce but not stop. He was a continous coffee drinker at work and home brew drinker after work.

Clive

Curt · « **Reply #27 on:** May 26, 2002, 06:30:00 AM »

Dr. Dugald's post is again more reason to come off the drug and do it as quickly as possible. Those who do so slowly are either not fully convinced or lack will power to attack their problem seriously. Here they need encouragement from those who have done it and help from one who can make it possible.

As for cigar and cigarette smoking, over 46 Million Americans have quit

Richard Myers · « **Reply #28 on:** May 26, 2002, 08:34:00 AM »

I was in a hospital not too long ago and they made coffee avaiable to those pregnant.

Joan · « **Reply #29 on:** May 26, 2002, 10:22:00 AM »

Coffee drinking expecting moms suppose to hear from their doc's to lay off for the duration of pregnancy. I was glad as a teen to find out in talk with my mother that she was very submissive to any doctor's advice and stopped all smoking, alcohol, coffee drinking when I was growing inside. For a few health developments I was most likely better off in the beginning of my baby life.

Joan

Suzanne · « **Reply #30 on:** May 29, 2002, 03:22:00 PM »

More bad news about coffee!

DECAF COFFEE LINKED TO ARTHRITIS

A surprising new study shows that drinking decaf coffee increases your risk of rheumatoid arthritis.

In a study of over 31,000 Iowa women aged 55 to 69, scientists found that 4 or more cups of caffeine-free coffee a day leads to twice the risk of contracting the crippling disease.

"W speculate the increased risk might be attributable to the preparation and processing of decaffeinated coffee," said the lead author of the study, assistant professor of medicine Ted Mikuls of the Univ. of Alabama-Birmingham.

...herbal teas are an excellent alternative.

Suzanne

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Joan · « **Reply #31 on:** May 30, 2002, 02:08:00 AM »

Just read the label of the German's SDA's non-coffee coffee drink called "Caro". It is an instant drink composed of chicorree root, barley, and malt. As for the malt....I always thought malt was a tampered-with form of barley. I think they make use of it in malted biers as well.

When I warm up soymilk with agave sweetsirup and add a teaspoon and half of this Caro to it I have my need for a warm drink when I get up pretty much satisfied. I do sympathized with those who are accustomed to coffee taste and bodily reaction for over years and years who do try to shift down from the 'hard-stuff' to Caro. They are very dissapointed because it probably doesn't have the 'kick' they are looking for.

The attitude of what one is expecting must be changed before one gets satisfied with the custom of drinking grains drinks or herbal drinks.

All these new oral imputs acceptance/enjoyments have to do first off with the workings of the brain .

Joan

Curt · « **Reply #32 on:** May 30, 2002, 05:42:00 AM »

WOW !!! Thanks for the information Sis S. Can you send the the full article. I would like to add it to my Veggie Supper Club presentation.

Joan - you are correct in saying that people who drink coffee are disappointed when they taste the substitutes. They do not have the body and flavor that coffee has. One has to be told this before trying this so they know they are trying something very different. Too often these substitutes are advertised or recommended as tasting very similar or the same thing as but they are not. They same with people trying Soy Milk for the first time. It does not taste like milk.

Bro Richard - sadly, our own SDA institutions serve coffee or dacaf

Suzanne · « **Reply #33 on:** October 22, 2002, 05:03:00 PM »

Coffee and Stress

The caffeine that gets into the bloodstream can take its toll on your mind and body for years to come, according to researchers at Duke University Medical Center. The study published in the July/August 2002 issue of Psychosomatic Medicine, notes that "the caffeine we drink enhances the effects of the stresses we experience, so if we have a stressful job, drinking coffee makes our bodies respond more to the ordinary stresses we experience." This according to James D. Land, PhD, associate research professor at Duke's department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and the study's lead author.

"The combination of stress and caffeine has a multiplying or synergistically negative effect." The researchers also point out that eliminating coffee and other caffeinated drinks from the diet "could be a way to decrease blood pressure and other stress reactions." Over a long period, caffeine consumption can increase the risk of heart attack and stroke.

~Suzanne~

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Curt · « **Reply #34 on:** October 23, 2002, 05:07:00 PM »

Since this report speaks about "caffeine" then "chocolate" is included

Richard Myers · « **Reply #35 on:** October 23, 2002, 07:09:00 PM »

Brother Curt, while our hospitals have a moral obligation to the church and God, most in the N.A.D. have rejected the health message given them. The separation between most hospitals and church is almost complete. Getting back on topic....yes coffee is served in many Seventh-day Adventist hospitals. It was offered to pregnant mothers.

Suzanne · « **Reply #36 on:** March 10, 2003, 10:07:00 AM »

Coffee Bad for Blood Sugar

Researchers working with a group of healthy people who did not have diabetes, found that the amount of caffeine in about 2 cups of coffee reduced insulin sensitivity by 15 percent.

Decreased insulin sensitivity is a risk factor for type 2 diabetes. The researchrs think this may have serious health implications for people with diabetes or prediabetes. --Diabetes Care, Feb. 2002.

~Suzanne~

Suzanne · « **Reply #37 on:** March 19, 2003, 03:46:00 PM »

Coffee and Colas--Danger: Beware

Test have shown that even one cup of coffee or a large cola causes a rapid rise in blood fats and cholesterol. One analysis of 2000 men, studied for 7 years, revealed that those who developed coronary disease during the test period drank at least 5 or more cups of coffee every day. The Drug Surveillance Program at Boston University disclosed: "The risk of myocardial infarction (a heart attack) among those drinking one to 5 and six or more cups of coffee a day are estimated to be increased by 60 percent and 120 percent respectively." Caffeine intake is especially harmful to the kidneys, which must eliminate the poisonous drug--and to the liver, which becomes overwhelmed in its attempt to detoxify the poison.

At the University of Illinois, in a test of 14 women who drank 7 or more cups of coffee daily, researchers reported either miscarriage, stillbirths or fetal deaths among 13 of the women. In Japan, Dr. Nishimura injected pregnant mice with caffeine and found that up to 20 percent of the offspring were born deformed. Other research shows that animals given the equivalent of 11 cups of coffee produced offspring with such birth defects as malformed skulls, cleft palates and missing fingers.

Cancer and caffeine are linked statistically in a very sinister way. Dr. Cole of the Harvard School of Public Health discovered that women who drink at least one cup of coffee daily have a 25 percent greater risk of developing bladder cancer.

Caffeine is likewise found in tea and colas and theobromine--a caffeine-like substance is found in cocoa and chocolate. --Pathways to Living, Vol. 11, No. 11.

This is serious, brothers and sisters. Consider what the Spirit of Prophecy,says about this important issue:

"Tea and coffee drinking is a sin, an injurious indulgence, which, like other evils, injures the soul. These darling idols create an excitement, a morbid action of the nervous system; and after the immediate influence of the stimulants is gone, it lets down below par just to that degree that its stimulatinkg properties elevated above par." --Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 425.

Comment: Some time ago we presented an article explaining how to eliminate coffee drinking without the terrible headaches and other withdrawal symptoms. I will look it up and post it again when I find it.

~Suzanne~

Suzanne · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2003, 07:12:00 PM »

Coffee, This Stuff is Worse Than We Thought!

"Giving up coffee has been shown to significantly reduce blood levels of total cholesterol and homocysteine--two risk factors for heart attack." --American Journal of clinical Nutrition, 2002; 75:949-950.

~Suzanne~

Suzanne · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2003, 08:24:00 PM »

Coffee: How to Quit

This information was posted some time ago on another forum by jps:

"I used to be an extreme coffee drinker...1 pot of very dark coffee every day. I had tried to quit several times but got the kind of headaches you are talking about.

"One day I tuned in to 3-ABN on the web and the show about stopping smoking was on. For some reason I felt compelled to watch it even though I didn't/don't smoke. After a while he started talking about caffeine and its effect on the body....Most of this I already knew but chose to ignore...but when I heard it this time I decided to seek the Lord in giving me the strength to quit.

"For the next week I drank huge amounts of water as my only beverage...more than a gallon a day. In the morning I would have a couple of glasses of hot water and then tepid or cool water throughouit the day. That and prayer enabled me to get through it without one headache! An absolute miracle!

"If you are going to try it, I suggest loading up on lots of distilled water and drinking that if possible. If not distilled, make sure it's at least some form of purified water. To help with the constipation, eat lots of raw fiberous veggies and cut down on the starches and fats during the withdrawal time."

~Suzanne~