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The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« on: February 12, 2009, 05:46:12 AM »
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    "Then the devil taketh Him up into the holy city, and setteth Him on a pinnacle of the temple, and saith unto Him, If Thou be the Son of God, cast Thyself down: for it is written,--

         "He shall give His angels charge concerning Thee:
          And in their hands they shall bear Thee up,
          Lest at any time Thou dash Thy foot against a stone." 

     Satan now supposes that he has met Jesus on His own ground. The wily foe himself presents words that proceeded from the mouth of God. He still appears as an angel of light, and he makes it evident that he is acquainted with the Scriptures, and understands the import of what is written. As Jesus before used the word of God to sustain His faith, the tempter now uses it to countenance his deception. He claims that he has been only testing the fidelity of Jesus, and he now commends His steadfastness. As the Saviour has manifested trust in God, Satan urges Him to give still another evidence of His faith.   
     But again the temptation is prefaced with the insinuation of distrust, "If Thou be the Son of God." Christ was tempted to answer the "if;" but He refrained from the slightest acceptance of the doubt. He would not imperil His life in order to give evidence to Satan.   
     The tempter thought to take advantage of Christ's humanity, and urge Him to presumption. But while Satan can solicit, he cannot compel to sin. He said to Jesus, "Cast Thyself down," knowing that he could not cast Him down; for God would interpose to deliver Him. Nor could Satan force Jesus to cast Himself down. Unless Christ should consent to temptation, He could not be overcome. Not all the power of earth or hell could force Him in the slightest degree to depart from the will of His Father.
     The tempter can never compel us to do evil. He cannot control minds unless they are yielded to his control. The will must consent, faith must let go its hold upon Christ, before Satan can exercise his power upon us. But every sinful desire we cherish affords him a foothold. Every point in which we fail of meeting the divine standard is an open door by which he can enter to tempt and destroy us. And every failure or defeat on our part gives occasion for him to reproach Christ.   
     When Satan quoted the promise, "He shall give His angels charge over Thee," he omitted the words, "to keep Thee in all Thy ways;" that is, in all the ways of God's choosing. Jesus refused to go outside the path of obedience. While manifesting perfect trust in His Father, He would not place Himself, unbidden, in a position that would necessitate the interposition of His Father to save Him from death. He would not force Providence to come to His rescue, and thus fail of giving man an example of trust and submission. 
     Jesus declared to Satan, "It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." These words were spoken by Moses to the children of Israel when they thirsted in the desert, and demanded that Moses should give them water, exclaiming, "Is the Lord among us, or not?" Exodus 17:7. God had wrought marvelously for them; yet in trouble they doubted Him, and demanded evidence that He was with them. In their unbelief they sought to put Him to the test. And Satan was urging Christ to do the same thing. God had already testified that Jesus was His Son; and now to ask for proof that He was the Son of God would be putting God's word to the test,--tempting Him. And the same would be true of asking for that which God had not promised. It would manifest distrust, and be really proving, or tempting, Him. We should not present our petitions to God to prove whether He will fulfill His word, but because He will fulfill it; not to prove that He loves us, but because He loves us. "Without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him." Hebrews 11:6. 
     But faith is in no sense allied to presumption. Only he who has true faith is secure against presumption. For presumption is Satan's counterfeit of faith. Faith claims God's promises, and brings forth fruit in obedience. Presumption also claims the promises, but uses them as Satan did, to excuse transgression. Faith would have led our first parents to trust the love of God, and to obey His commands. Presumption led them to transgress His law, believing that His great love would save them from the consequence of their sin. It is not faith that claims the favor of Heaven without complying with the conditions on which mercy is to be granted. Genuine faith has its foundation in the promises and provisions of the Scriptures. 
     Often when Satan has failed of exciting distrust, he succeeds in leading us to presumption. If he can cause us to place ourselves unnecessarily in the way of temptation, he knows that the victory is his. God will preserve all who walk in the path of obedience; but to depart from it is to venture on Satan's ground. There we are sure to fall. The Saviour has bidden us, "Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation." Mark 14:38. Meditation and prayer would keep us from rushing unbidden into the way of danger, and thus we should be saved from many a defeat.  {DA 126.2} 
     Yet we should not lose courage when assailed by temptation. Often when placed in a trying situation we doubt that the Spirit of God has been leading us. But it was the Spirit's leading that brought Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted by Satan. When God brings us into trial, He has a purpose to accomplish for our good. Jesus did not presume on God's promises by going unbidden into temptation, neither did He give up to despondency when temptation came upon Him. Nor should we. "God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." He says, "Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the Most High: and call upon Me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify Me." 1 Corinthians 10:13; Psalm 50:14, 15.  {DA 126.3}
     Jesus was victor in the second temptation, and now Satan manifests himself in his true character. But he does not appear as a hideous monster, with cloven feet and bat's wings. He is a mighty angel, though fallen. He avows himself the leader of rebellion and the god of this world. 
     Placing Jesus upon a high mountain, Satan caused the kingdoms of the world, in all their glory, to pass in panoramic view before Him. The sunlight lay on templed cities, marble palaces, fertile fields, and fruit-laden vineyards. The traces of evil were hidden. The eyes of Jesus, so lately greeted by gloom and desolation, now gazed upon a scene of unsurpassed loveliness and prosperity. Then the tempter's voice was heard: "All this power will I give Thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If Thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be Thine." 
     Christ's mission could be fulfilled only through suffering. Before Him was a life of sorrow, hardship, and conflict, and an ignominious death. He must bear the sins of the whole world. He must endure separation from His Father's love. Now the tempter offered to yield up the power he had usurped. Christ might deliver Himself from the dreadful future by acknowledging the supremacy of Satan. But to do this was to yield the victory in the great controversy. It was in seeking to exalt himself above the Son of God that Satan had sinned in heaven. Should he prevail now, it would be the triumph of rebellion. 
     When Satan declared to Christ, The kingdom and glory of the world are delivered unto me, and to whomsoever I will I give it, he stated what was true only in part, and he declared it to serve his own purpose of deception. Satan's dominion was that wrested from Adam, but Adam was the vicegerent of the Creator. His was not an independent rule. The earth is God's, and He has committed all things to His Son. Adam was to reign subject to Christ. When Adam betrayed his sovereignty into Satan's hands, Christ still remained the rightful King. Thus the Lord had said to King Nebuchadnezzar, "The Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will." Daniel 4:17. Satan can exercise his usurped authority only as God permits. 
     When the tempter offered to Christ the kingdom and glory of the world, he was proposing that Christ should yield up the real kingship of the world, and hold dominion subject to Satan. This was the same dominion upon which the hopes of the Jews were set. They desired the kingdom of this world. If Christ had consented to offer them such a kingdom, they would gladly have received Him. But the curse of sin, with all its woe, rested upon it. Christ declared to the tempter, "Get thee behind Me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." 
     By the one who had revolted in heaven the kingdoms of this world were offered Christ, to buy His homage to the principles of evil; but He would not be bought; He had come to establish a kingdom of righteousness, and He would not abandon His purpose. With the same temptation Satan approaches men, and here he has better success than with Christ. To men he offers the kingdom of this world on condition that they will acknowledge his supremacy. He requires that they sacrifice integrity, disregard conscience, indulge selfishness. Christ bids them seek first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; but Satan walks by their side and says: Whatever may be true in regard to life eternal, in order to make a success in this world you must serve me. I hold your welfare in my hands. I can give you riches, pleasures, honor, and happiness. Hearken to my counsel. Do not allow yourselves to be carried away with whimsical notions of honesty or self-sacrifice. I will prepare the way before you. Thus multitudes are deceived. They consent to live for the service of self, and Satan is satisfied. While he allures them with the hope of worldly dominion, he gains dominion over the soul. But he offers that which is not his to bestow, and which is soon to be wrested from him. In return he beguiles them of their title to the inheritance of the sons of God.   
     Satan had questioned whether Jesus was the Son of God. In his summary dismissal he had proof that he could not gainsay. Divinity flashed through suffering humanity. Satan had no power to resist the command. Writhing with humiliation and rage, he was forced to withdraw from the presence of the world's Redeemer. Christ's victory was as complete as had been the failure of Adam.
     So we may resist temptation, and force Satan to depart from us. Jesus gained the victory through submission and faith in God, and by the apostle He says to us, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you." James 4:7, 8. We cannot save ourselves from the tempter's power; he has conquered humanity, and when we try to stand in our own strength, we shall become a prey to his devices; but "the name of the Lord is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe." Proverbs 18:10. Satan trembles and flees before the weakest soul who finds refuge in that mighty name.  {DA 130.4} 
     After the foe had departed, Jesus fell exhausted to the earth, with the pallor of death upon His face. The angels of heaven had watched the conflict, beholding their loved Commander as He passed through inexpressible suffering to make a way of escape for us. He had endured the test, greater than we shall ever be called to endure. The angels now ministered to the Son of God as He lay like one dying. He was strengthened with food, comforted with the message of His Father's love and the assurance that all heaven triumphed in His victory. Warming to life again, His great heart goes out in sympathy for man, and He goes forth to complete the work He has begun; to rest not until the foe is vanquished, and our fallen race redeemed.
     Never can the cost of our redemption be realized until the redeemed shall stand with the Redeemer before the throne of God. Then as the glories of the eternal home burst upon our enraptured senses we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss. Then we shall cast our crowns at His feet, and raise the song, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing." Revelation 5:12.   



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Re: The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 06:01:14 AM »
What a meaty chapter this is!
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 10:40:26 PM »
Never can the cost of our redemption be realized until the redeemed shall stand with the Redeemer before the throne of God. Then as the glories of the eternal home burst upon our enraptured senses we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss.

An amazing thought!!  "Eternal loss"! And, we have no idea what heaven is like. And when we find out, we will wonder that Jesus left it for us!!
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2009, 08:59:20 AM »
but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss.

It wasn't until just recently that I understood this.  (Well, as much as I can understand with my inferior human brain!)  Never before in any church I'd been in had I heard this kind of teaching.  This makes His sacrifice and love for us so much more valuable, so beyond comprehension, when we realize just what our Dear Lord put on the line for us.  Before, I didn't get it.  My thinking was, well He left Heaven for a very little while, He was God and so He had nothing to lose.  It didn't seem like such a big deal.  How wrong I was!  There was more to it, so much more. 

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 09:05:42 AM »
Look at this, Diane:

God's Gift to Man

     I have been shown the great love and condescension of God in giving His Son to die that man might find pardon and live. I was shown Adam and Eve, who were privileged to behold the beauty and loveliness of the Garden of Eden and were permitted to eat of all the trees in the garden except one. But the serpent tempted Eve, and she tempted her husband, and they both ate of the forbidden tree. They broke God's command, and became sinners. The news spread through heaven, and every harp was hushed. The angels sorrowed, and feared lest Adam and Eve would again put forth the hand and eat of the tree of life and be immortal sinners. But God said that He would drive the transgressors from the garden, and by cherubim and a flaming sword would guard the way of the tree of life, so that man could not approach unto it and eat of its fruit, which perpetuates immortality.  {EW 125.2} 
     Sorrow filled heaven as it was realized that man was lost and that the world which God had created was to be filled with mortals doomed to misery, sickness, and death, and that there was no way of escape for the offender. The whole family of Adam must die. I then saw the lovely Jesus and beheld an expression of sympathy and sorrow upon His countenance. Soon I saw Him approach the exceeding bright light which enshrouded the Father. Said my accompanying angel, "He is in close converse with His Father." The anxiety of the angels seemed to be intense while Jesus was communing with His Father. Three times He was shut in by the glorious light about the Father, and the third time He came from the Father we could see His person. His countenance was calm, free from all perplexity and trouble, and shone with a loveliness which words cannot describe. He then made known to the angelic choir that a way of escape had been made for lost man; that He had been pleading with His Father, and had obtained permission to give His own life as a ransom for the race, to bear their sins, and take the sentence of death upon Himself, thus opening a way whereby they might, through the merits of His blood, find pardon for past transgressions, and by obedience be brought back to the garden from which they were driven. Then they could again have access to the glorious, immortal fruit of the tree of life to which they had now forfeited all right.  {EW 126.1} 
     Then joy, inexpressible joy, filled heaven, and the heavenly choir sang a song of praise and adoration. They touched their harps and sang a note higher than they had done before, because of the great mercy and
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condescension of God in yielding up His dearly Beloved to die for a race of rebels. Then praise and adoration was poured forth for the self-denial and sacrifice of Jesus, in consenting to leave the bosom of His Father, and choosing a life of suffering and anguish, and an ignominious death, that He might give life to others.  {EW 126.2} 
     Said the angel, "Think ye that the Father yielded up His dearly beloved Son without a struggle? No, no." It was even a struggle with the God of heaven, whether to let guilty man perish, or to give His darling Son to die for them. Angels were so interested for man's salvation that there could be found among them those who would yield their glory and give their life for perishing man. "But," said my accompanying angel, "that would avail nothing." The transgression was so great that an angel's life would not pay the debt. Nothing but the death and intercession of God's Son would pay the debt and save lost man from hopeless sorrow and misery.  {EW 127.1} 
  For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Psalm 119:89 

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Re: The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2009, 09:14:35 AM »
Some wise person said there are three chapters in The Desire of Ages we should read very carefully, at least he did:

Bethlehem (Unto You a Savior)

Gethsemane

It is Finished

From those three chapters it can be seen at what risk Jesus came to live among men. By entering into the presence of the Father THREE times, it is evident Jesus had to convince Him to let Him come.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2009, 09:43:02 AM »
Thank you, Sybil!  I believe I have seen that passage somewhere, around here maybe, but it is always good to read it again.   :)  So amazing! 

I recently finished reading "The Great Controversy".  I don't have as much time as I'd like to devote to study, but still, I wondered why it was taking me so long to go through a book of that thickness.  Then I realized it was almost 700 pages!   :D  Thin paper, I guess. 

I'll be doing "Desire of Ages" next.  I might have read through both of these great books sooner, but we only had the ASI editions at first.  Very hard on middle-aged eyes!   

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2009, 09:51:00 AM »
In that case, I have a suggestion. This topic is based upon reading through and discussing The Desire of Ages. We started it a while back and the chapters are posted if you want to read it from here and join in the discussion. It beats ASI print to be sure!

We are currently on the chapter: The Victory if you want to begin at the beginning and catch up. It isn't that much, really, and feel free to discuss something from chapter one if you want. We can never get enough of this incredible book.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 07:29:21 PM »

The dominion of the earth is ours by right! It is therefore our prerogative to take it back! We are the true Lords of the earth! But the usurper wants us to think otherwise. The King of kings has already shown us the way in which to reclaim what is rightfully ours. Let us therefore go forth and emulate Him and take it back. Pastor Finley says "what man can do, the divine is not called upon to do". Jesus did defeat satan and wounded him thus opening the flood gates for his defeat. Once defeatedhe is no longer invisible. we can do it in Jesus name and using the full scripture. But if satan persists with the half truths from scripture then a do not have a choice but to invoke our dominion over him by saying "get thee behind me satan! For it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God! And Him only shalt thou serve! What victory!, hallelujah! For the Lord only shall reign in my life and only Him must I serve. I Love Jesus!

When the saviour tells Nathaniel I saw you when you were under the fig tree, it pricked my heart and the deeper meaning pierced my heart. When you were yet in your mothers womb I knew you! When you were yet a sinner I saw you, I called you, I accepted you as you were, I forgave you, I made you my disciple, I presented you to my Father who loved you and accepted my choice without question! What love! And we doubt the love of Jesus? And neglect to pick up the precious offer!?

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 08:46:04 PM »
Amen, wigina! How can we doubt God's love if we know Him? We can't. Our faith must be securely anchored in our knowledge of God's character. That is why we must spend time studying the Bible to know Him who gave all for us while we were yet sinners! What a God we serve!!!

Not long ago, I again heard the false teaching that Ellen White changed her whole attitude towards the law after 1888. Such and untruth! Ellen White understood the gospel before 1888. She had never heard what Jones and Wagner were teaching from human lips, but she knew that the law did not save. It is God's grace that saves and she well understood that long before 1888.  So,  how did Ellen White look at the law after 1888?  Anyone who has had spiritual discernment to read The Great Controversy, 1911, and The Desire of Ages, written most in Australia after 1890, know that the law is central to the gospel message in her writings. The law will judge every one who has professed to love God. This is hated truth that those who want to rewrite history are attempting to remove from church teaching.

From chapter 13:

We should not present our petitions to God to prove whether He will fulfill His word, but because He will fulfill it; not to prove that He loves us, but because He loves us. "Without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him." Hebrews 11:6. 

But faith is in no sense allied to presumption. Only he who has true faith is secure against presumption. For presumption is Satan's counterfeit of faith. Faith claims God's promises, and brings forth fruit in obedience. Presumption also claims the promises, but uses them as Satan did, to excuse transgression. Faith would have led our first parents to trust the love of God, and to obey His commands. Presumption led them to transgress His law, believing that His great love would save them from the consequence of their sin. It is not faith that claims the favor of Heaven without complying with the conditions on which mercy is to be granted. Genuine faith has its foundation in the promises and provisions of the Scriptures. 

Often when Satan has failed of exciting distrust, he succeeds in leading us to presumption. If he can cause us to place ourselves unnecessarily in the way of temptation, he knows that the victory is his. God will preserve all who walk in the path of obedience; but to depart from it is to venture on Satan's ground. There we are sure to fall. The Saviour has bidden us, "Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation." Mark 14:38. Meditation and prayer would keep us from rushing unbidden into the way of danger, and thus we should be saved from many a defeat.  DA 126.


Once ones begins to read The Desire of Ages or the Bible looking for truth, it is hard to miss!
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2013, 09:35:34 PM »
Yes elder Richard! And in the ministry of healing she says that those who seek healing must be in harmony with both of God's laws; of nature and spiritual. There is no escaping that. The word of God its law, the word of God is Jesus.


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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2013, 09:56:25 PM »
Amen, wigina!  As we study the Book, our minds are formed according to what is in it. 

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."  John 1:14.
  Never more truthful words were spoken.  Those who speak against the law of God are speaking against the character of our God.  And, they foolishly do not see the simple truth that if you really love someone, you will be keeping the moral law to the degree that you know it. 

And, you bring up physical law. Well....if we violate physical law, then there will be a price to pay also. If we throw a rock up in the air, and then stand under it, the physical laws dictate that there is going to be pain. To violate physical law will bring a consequence. And, if we know of the consequence and do it anyway, what does that say about our attitude? And, if we are truly converted, what then will be our attitude?  Will the flesh rule or will the Spirit rule? Some think that even when converted, filled with the Spirit, that the flesh will rule.  :(    They have been taught that, and it has been their experience. When the Bible says that alcohol is not good for us, and we go ahead and drink it anyway, do we think there will be no consequence? Do we think that God approves of us hurting our bodies which are to be for the indwelling of His Spirit? It is very sad that the consequences for one sin can be so very bad, and last for a very long time.  Tell an 18 year old that it is not a sin to drink alcohol or use cocaine. If that is the religion that one believes and teaches, that physical laws knowingly broken are not sin, then what shall the child grow up believing about doing such things?  That it is not sin. That God does not mind if he violates physical laws that be are harmful to himself and others.

And of course eating a food that is not healthful, God does not care about that either?  Even though the sin that caused the human race to be evil by nature, was just that, eating a forbidden food. By nature if it tastes good, we eat it even if it is not healthful. If something feels good, we do it, even if it is not in harmony with God's laws. And, if we want something, we take it now. This is the sad state of our flesh. Our only hope is Jesus. Then with our minds fully given over to Jesus we serve the laws of God, all of them to the degree with understand them.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 05:12:04 AM »
When the saviour tells Nathaniel I saw you when you were under the fig tree, it pricked my heart and the deeper meaning pierced my heart. When you were yet in your mothers womb I knew you! When you were yet a sinner I saw you, I called you, I accepted you as you were, I forgave you, I made you my disciple, I presented you to my Father who loved you and accepted my choice without question! What love! And we doubt the love of Jesus? And neglect to pick up the precious offer!?

Isn't that amazing, Wigina? He knew us before we existed.

Powerful! Powerful!
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 06:38:31 AM »
What happens when we do something good? Most of the time we chest thump and show off our achievements. Is it the way of the Lord his time had not come yet he had to honour his mother! And he left quite unobtrusively! What our cue to leave? 'tis when every one is happy noshowing of for in truth it is not I that does the works but Jesus in me and Him in his Father!
How sympathetic are we to the needs of the masses?
The lessons the Lord gives on His character are very heavy yet it I'd what we have to attain for him to present us a living sacrifice to his father. We must be ready to follow in the exact footsteps of Jesus. Meek humble and true.
The great apostasy is already retracing those steps even as we talk. The imitation will be so real that many well be deceived. When we finally accept our true calling well the people have been deceived to a point of no return?, let us look at the signs of the times and do or duty by Jesus Christ.

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2016, 01:54:58 PM »
God and Jesus risked something when Jesus came into this world a helpless baby. He came to Earth where one who hated Him in heaven claimed dominion. He came in the "likeness of sinful flesh" to fight the battle as each child of humanity must fight it at the risk of failure and eternal loss. Think about it for a moment. "Eternal loss". What would that eternal loss be? What would have happened if Jesus had sinned. We do not want to think about that, but there was a risk and it involved eternal realities.

"Never can the cost of our redemption be realized until the redeemed shall stand with the Redeemer before the throne of God. Then as the glories of the eternal home burst upon our enraptured senses we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss."


Well can we say, "wonder O heavens and be astonished O Earth!!
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2016, 08:46:19 AM »
As I read this chapter anew today, I was blessed by the last paragraph again:

"Never can the cost of our redemption be realized until the redeemed shall stand with the Redeemer before the throne of God. Then as the glories of the eternal home burst upon our enraptured senses we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss. Then we shall cast our crowns at His feet, and raise the song, 'Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing.' Revelation 5:12." {DA 131.2}

I realize we are counseled to contemplate heaven more than we even now do--and as I think about how soon we will be standing upon the sea of glass, it can really help to break the hold that the world seeks to wield over our affections. I remember how Ellen White made clear that the third temptation--the one involving gaining the whole world by simply acknowledging Satan's supremacy, was the most alluring/tempting to Jesus Christ:

    "This last temptation was the most alluring of the three. Satan knew that Christ's life must be one of sorrow, hardship, and conflict. And he thought he could take advantage of this fact to bribe Christ to yield His integrity. Satan brought all his strength to bear upon this last temptation, for this last effort was to decide his destiny as to who should be victor. He claimed the world as his dominion, and he was the prince of the power of the air. He bore Jesus to the top of an exceeding high mountain, and then in a panoramic view presented before Him all the kingdoms of the world that had been so long under his dominion, and offered them to Him in one great gift. He told Christ He could come into possession of the kingdoms of the world without suffering or peril on His part. Satan promises to yield his scepter and dominion, and Christ shall be rightful ruler for one favor from Him. All he requires in return for making over to Him the kingdoms of the world that day presented before Him, is, that Christ shall do him homage as to a superior." {1SM 286.1}
      "The eye of Jesus for a moment rested upon the glory presented before Him; but He turned away and refused to look upon the entrancing spectacle. He would not endanger His steadfast integrity by dallying with the tempter. When Satan solicited homage, Christ's divine indignation was aroused, and He could no longer tolerate the blasphemous assumption of Satan, or even permit him to remain in His presence. Here Christ exercised His divine authority, and commanded Satan to desist. 'Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve' (Matthew 4:10)." {1SM 286.2}


What a marvel--to fully understand the risk involved in Christ experiencing this temptation, and yet to see how steadfastly He resisted it, is wonderful comfort to us in any temptation. This morning I was also listening to Patriarchs and Prophets, Chapter 64, "David a Fugitive," and realize the truth of these words:

     "Every failure on the part of the children of God is due to their lack of faith. When shadows encompass the soul, when we want light and guidance, we must look up; there is light beyond the darkness. David ought not to have distrusted God for one moment. He had cause for trusting in Him: he was the Lord's anointed, and in the midst of danger he had been protected by the angels of God; he had been armed with courage to do wonderful things; and if he had but removed his mind from the distressing situation in which he was placed, and had thought of God's power and majesty, he would have been at peace even in the midst of the shadows of death; he could with confidence have repeated the promise of the Lord, 'The mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but My kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of My peace be removed.' Isaiah 54:10." {PP 657.2}

This truth clearly dispels the false doctrine that Christians can be in a saving relationship while committing a known sin--for it reveals that they have not exercised the faith available to them in the word of God. But praise God--He extends our probation long enough for us to repent (as David would). But it is presumptuous to sin and hope that we will live long enough to repent for it--for each moment is a gift, but we know not what will come the next. We need to constantly cling to Jesus Christ, and through abiding in Him, receive the promise that all the fruits of the Spirit will be seen in our lives without one missing. Unbelief is really a violation of love, which prompts true obedience (Galatians 5:6; John 14:15). Hence why Paul's counsel, which is one of God's most blessed promises to us in temptation, is so needed:

"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it" (1 Corinthians 10:13).


Let us manfully overcome in the strength and victory provided us in Christ! His victory is to be ours by abiding in Him, and exercising the same faith--the loving dependence upon our Father whose word will not fail us! Hallelujah!!!
"When we live by faith on the Son of God, the fruits of the Spirit will be seen in our lives; not one will be missing." {The Desire of Ages, 676.4}

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Re: The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2016, 11:24:28 AM »
Amen!

As I read this chapter today, my mind was taken to a very sad truth, there is no greater sin than "unbelief". The Evangelicals preach "just believe". That is so very true, but also very misleading. The first word ought to be left out. It implies it is something so very simple to do. And, in a way it is, but not the belief that saves. The devils believe and tremble. That kind of belief does not save and sits along side of "unbelief".  We cannot have any "unbelief". Our belief must be complete. We must have faith that surrenders all that we are and all that we have. When we hold back, then we are not fully surrendered to Christ. Unless He has the whole heart, He does not reside in the heart. We cannot serve two masters.

Jesus when being tempted believed the truth with all of his mind, heart, and soul. No matter how painful His experience was, He would not entertain a lie. He knew the truth, and would not let go of it. His faith in His Father was complete. There was no "unbelief". "Jesus gained the victory through submission and faith in God, and by the apostle He says to us, 'Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you.'"
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Re: The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2016, 12:44:08 PM »
I am so thankful for the victory wrought out for us in Christ over Satan, and that God only permits Satan's existence for a specific purpose: the revealing of principles that lead to the complete cleansing of the universe from sin, and the utter impossibility of it arising again because of how powerful God's government of love is in contrast to the principles of Satan's government of selfishness.

When Satan declared to Christ, The kingdom and glory of the world are delivered unto me, and to whomsoever I will I give it, he stated what was true only in part, and he declared it to serve his own purpose of deception. Satan's dominion was that wrested from Adam, but Adam was the vicegerent of the Creator. His was not an independent rule. The earth is God's, and He has committed all things to His Son. Adam was to reign subject to Christ. When Adam betrayed his sovereignty into Satan's hands, Christ still remained the rightful King. Thus the Lord had said to King Nebuchadnezzar, "The Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will." Daniel 4:17. Satan can exercise his usurped authority only as God permits. 

We need to remember that there is a lot of "truth" coming from many different places--but since it has error mixed with it, it makes it all the more dangerous and alluring. It would be well for us to continually behold the loveliness of Jesus' character, to continually have our minds filled with the word of God and be in an attitude of prayer, so that God's Spirit can continually guide us in doing His will. It is as we see that Satan is not able to overcome us, because He was unable to overcome Christ, that we have nothing to fear from this foe. Rather, we need to watch, guard, and pray that we will never choose another master than Christ. God permits Satan's existence for our good, that in trial and tribulation we may realize our CONTINUAL need of Jesus! Praise the Lord! "We also need to learn that trials mean benefit" {MB 11.3}!
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Re: The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2016, 01:40:40 PM »
Amen, Pastor Sean!  This what we are told in Romans 5:3-5. "We glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope: And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us."  

And, not only for our benefit, but for God's glory, since when we are in a converted state in the trial, we are His witnesses of the power of His grace to transform sinners into saints. "Christ's victory was as complete as had been the failure of Adam. So we may resist temptation, and force Satan to depart from us. Jesus gained the victory through submission and faith in God, and by the apostle He says to us, 'Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you.' James 4:7, 8. We cannot save ourselves from the tempter's power; he has conquered humanity, and when we try to stand in our own strength, we shall become a prey to his devices; but 'the name of the Lord is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.' Proverbs 18:10. Satan trembles and flees before the weakest soul who finds refuge in that mighty name."  pg 130.
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Re: The Desire of Ages--13--The Victory
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2016, 05:25:36 AM »
So we may resist temptation, and force Satan to depart from us. Jesus gained the victory through submission and faith in God, and by the apostle He says to us, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you." James 4:7, 8. We cannot save ourselves from the tempter's power; he has conquered humanity, and when we try to stand in our own strength, we shall become a prey to his devices; but "the name of the Lord is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe." Proverbs 18:10. Satan trembles and flees before the weakest soul who finds refuge in that mighty name.  {DA 130.4} 

The qualifications for a life of victory is submission. Submission to the King of the Universe. We are told that Jesus gained the victory through submission and faith in God. Since He is our example we are to do the same. Here we are told that satan will flee before the weakest sinner who submits. Can you imagine the weakest person can have the strength of God on his side if he will submit and surrender his heart to God. It goes a bit contrary to what our carnal desires. It doesn't make sense in the natural world to submit in order to gain victory yet that is the secret. When the weakest sinner responds to Jesus knocking on his door for entrance the devil will flee. Then we can have victory. Then we will have the mind of Christ and become partakers of in the divine nature. Praise His Holy name!!
By communion with God in nature, the mind is uplifted, and the heart finds rest.  {DA 291.1}