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Adventist Church sets vote on women’s ordination for next July


Adventist Church Vice President Mike Ryan chairs Annual Council on Tuesday, October 14 as delegates overwhelmingly voted to place an item on the agenda of next year's General Conference Session asking if regional divisions may allow women to be ordained as ministers. The vote was 243 to 44, with 3 abstaining. [photo: Viviene Martinelli]

Annual Council asks Session to consider letting divisions decide on ordination

October 14, 2014 | Silver Spring, Maryland, United States | Edwin Manuel Garcia/ANN

The Seventh-day Adventist Church as early as next July may decide to take a historic vote on whether to allow women to be ordained ministers.

The decision to allow for a vote was made today by the General Conference Executive Committee at the Church’s world headquarters during the 2014 Annual Council. A vote on women’s ordination could put an end to—or further prolong—a decades-old debate that has threatened to divide the denomination, according to those on both sides of the issue.

With 243 votes in favor and 44 against, and at the end of daylong deliberation, the Executive Committee agreed to place the following question on the agenda of the 2015 General Conference Session in July, which sets policy for the entire Church:

"Whereas, The unity for which Jesus prayed is vitally important to the witness of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and;

"Whereas, The Seventh-day Adventist Church seeks to engage every member in its worldwide mission to make disciples of Jesus Christ among people from every nation, culture and ethnicity, and;

"Whereas, Various groups appointed by the General Conference and its divisions have carefully studied the Bible and Ellen G White writings with respect to the ordination of women and have not arrived at consensus as to whether ministerial ordination for women is unilaterally affirmed or denied, and;

"Whereas, The Seventh-day Adventist Church affirms that “God has ordained that the representatives of His Church from all parts of the earth, when assembled in a General Conference Session, shall have authority”

"Therefore, The General Conference Executive Committee requests delegates in their sacred responsibility to God at the 2015 General Conference Session to respond to the following question:

"After your prayerful study on ordination from the Bible, the writings of Ellen G White, and the reports of the study commissions, and;

"After your careful consideration of what is best for the Church and the fulfillment of its mission,

"Is it acceptable for division executive committees, as they may deem it appropriate in their territories, to make provision for the ordination of women to the gospel ministry?"


If the question about the theology of ordination is put up for vote, and passes, then leaders in each of the church’s 13 world regions may decide whether to ordain women in their territory.

The proposal voted by the Executive Committee today was brought to the assembly floor as a recommendation from the Church’s top officials and could be considered a creative way of dealing with a thorny issue by taking a neutral-leaning stance.

Some proponents of women’s ordination voted in favor of the motion but expressed strong concerns that the proposal before the Executive Committee lacked a formal recommendation for or against ordination. Proponents fear the issue will carry less weight when the question comes up at the General Conference Session that meets July 2-11 in San Antonio, Texas, United States.

“I think this body needs to give direction to the world church,” said David Weigley, president of the North American Division’s Columbia Union Conference. “We are missing a golden opportunity to give direction. Leaders lead, they give direction,” he said.

“Based on what I see from the history of this particular issue, it seems that the Annual Council has always played a very prominent role in what is passed onto the GC session,” said Heather-Dawn Small, Women’s Ministries director for the Adventist world church. “I’ve seen from the past that what this Annual Council decides influences the GC Session.”

Today's Annual Council’s chairman, Vice President Mike Ryan, suggested that the recommendation needed to be unbiased, and that the ordination question was best suited for the delegation at Session.

More than 20 people spoke on varying sides of the issue.

Alberto C. Gulfan Jr., president of the Southern Asia-Pacific Division, said he appreciates the contribution of female evangelists, but that his region’s constituency “is not ready to move towards the ordination of women pastors.” He added: “We are also supporting this recommendation to bring this to the General Conference in Session and let the world decide on the issue once and for all.”

General Conference President Ted N. C. Wilson, who has opposed recent moves for women's ordination that have come before Annual Council, did not express his opinion during the meeting, but indicated before the discussion that he would be willing to adjust his stance.

“If this body accepts the recommendation to place a question before the General Conference Session and that Session after prayerful consideration and review votes something,” Wilson announced, “I pledge to you I will follow what the General Conference votes. I want to ask each of you to do the same.”

The discussion over women’s ordination began more than 130 years ago, according to Church archives, and has intensified since the 1970s, especially where members are calling for change, including the United States, parts of Europe, and the South Pacific. The General Conference Sessions in 1990 and 1995 voted down proposals that would have allowed women’s ordination, and the matter has not returned to a Session agenda since then.

However, at the 2010 Session in Atlanta, Georgia, United States, a delegate from the U.S. state of Pennsylvania asked Church leaders that if women can’t be ordained ministers, then what is the denomination’s theology on ordination?

That question led to a commitment from General Conference leaders to open the discussion and appoint the Theology of Ordination Study Committee, or TOSC. The 106-member committee was asked to take a profound look at ordination and provide information to help the General Conference decide how to handle the matter.

TOSC’s response was a 127-page report that was the basis for today’s discussion.

The report, which acknowledged that committee members—who hailed from around the world and met four times, for several days each time—were unable to come to agreement on whether to support or oppose women’s ordination.

TOSC produced three separate statements to summarize members’ viewpoints. Those positions were then explained by three different scholars in a presentation before the Executive Committee; the statements also were printed in the TOSC report.

One position, labeled Statement No. 1, said that only men could be ordained throughout the world church. Statement No. 2 said that entities responsible for hiring pastors should be able to make their own decisions on whether to ordain female ministers. Statement No. 3 said the decision should be left to the leadership “at a proper level” to determine whether ordination “may be appropriate for their area or region.”

While the theology of ordination will be placed on the General Conference Session agenda, the measure’s outcome is far from certain. The nearly 2,600 voting delegates may decide to adopt, reject, or amend the proposal.
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Re: 2014 Annual Council Examination of TOSC Recommendations
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2014, 09:47:25 AM »
I found this one a bit troubling.   "Miller is painting Position 3 as moderate solution compared to extremes of Positions 1, 2."

I thought position three believed position two was Biblical, but wanted peace through compromise. Isn't that what we were told?  Well....how then can position two be "extreme"?  Someone said the NAD had a large presence in the TOSC. It does appear that way. I wonder why they were given an undue amount of influence that we now have these "three" options when in fact there are only two.

As you are well aware, I am no expert on these things. The Third Option is a compromise to keep the peace. The devil is in the details. The Bohr Summit presentations had in them a statement that the TOSC members were chosen primarily from those divisions wanting women's ordination. Our conversations on the forum noted how the deck seemed to be stacked in the WO's favor. By design, this was done as not to make an issue out of it in those countries who have no dog in this fight. It is not an issue with them so they were not directly involved in it except through their BRI committees. Wish I could remember which presenter said that. It will come out after more people have watched them.

None-the-less, the world divisions did participate through their individual BRI committees whose members they selected themselves. They did their work, sent the reports on to TOSC and then they went about their business.

Yes, but because the TOSC was not balanced, their report was not reflective of the world church's study of the subject. And, now the TOSC conclusions, which were biased are not only being presented to the Annual Council, but will be given to the GC delegates as the result of the studies done by each division. Something is not right.   

Also, I erred in my post by saying number 2 was Biblical, I meant number 1 which is Biblical in stating women were not to be rulers over men in the church. The third option from what was presented to the Annual Council was not a compromise, but called the Bible position as extreme. It was just a second un-Biblical presentation to lead the church astray. If these three positions are presented to the delegates to the General Conference, which it appears they will, then great influence has been given to false doctrine. Those three positions came about by allowing the TOSC to be composed of a larger number of un-Biblical representatives from those divisions opposed to Biblical truth.
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Re: 2014 Annual Council Examination of TOSC Recommendations
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2014, 06:21:03 PM »
All I can say is that GC leadership wanted transparency and has been bending over backward to accomplish that. Yes, #3 will be out there for review. We can only pray they see the folly in it as many have already seen.

I checked around some websites and some of the TOSC members are happy that #3 was essentially tossed out because of the way the question being sent to 2015 GC (based upon #1 and #2) has been worded.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2014, 10:47:59 AM »
Not sure who wrote the article, but what does these statements mean?

"The Seventh-day Adventist Church as early as next July may decide to take a historic vote on whether to allow women to be ordained ministers."

Historic? How so?  Twice the church has said no to making women rulers over men.

"The decision to allow for a vote was made today by the General Conference Executive Committee at the Church’s world headquarters during the 2014 Annual Council. A vote on women’s ordination could put an end to—or further prolong—a decades-old debate that has threatened to divide the denomination, according to those on both sides of the issue."

"Put and end to debate that threatens to divide the church"? How so?  It sounds like the only way to unite the church is to place women as rulers of men. Did I misread this article?
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2014, 01:44:26 PM »
Not sure who wrote the article, but what does these statements mean?

"The Seventh-day Adventist Church as early as next July may decide to take a historic vote on whether to allow women to be ordained ministers."

Edwin Manuel Garcia/ANN. Maybe like the guy who just left, he is incapable of impartiality.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2014, 07:54:28 PM »
This article was issued by Religion News Service. A Baptist publication picked it up.




Seventh-day Adventists to decide in 2015 on women’s ordination


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Adventist Church President Ted N. C. Wilson addresses Annual Council delegates after a crucial vote on Tuesday, October 14. The proposal presented before Annual Council delegates asked if a General Conference Session agenda item should ask the the question–roughly: Should each division executive committee make provision for women’s ordination as they deem appropriate? It passed 243-44 with 3 abstaining. The vote took place on Tuesday, October 14 at the denomination’s world headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland, United States. Photo by Viviene Martinelli, courtesy of Adventist News Network via Flickr

By ADELLE M. BANKS

SILVER SPRING, Md. — Seventh-day Adventists opted for a middle-way approach on the divisive issue of women’s ordination on Tuesday (Oct. 14), kicking the question to next year’s worldwide meeting without taking a firm stance either for or against women’s ordination.

Next year’s debate will come nearly 100 years after the death of Adventist matriarch Ellen White and could settle decades of disagreement over whether women should be allowed to be ordained in the 18 million-member church she co-founded.

The church’s Annual Council voted to refer the matter to the 2015 General Conference Session in San Antonio. Under the proposal, regional church bodies would be able to decide whether to ordain women pastors.

“Is it acceptable for division executive committees, as they may deem it appropriate in their territories, to make provision for the ordination of women to the gospel ministry?” is the question that will be asked at the 2015 worldwide gathering in Texas.

Tuesday’s 243-44 vote marks the latest step in a debate that has divided the denomination, which time and again has voted to not permit women’s ordination.

Despite the churchwide ban on ordaining women, several U.S. regional groups have voted for women to be ordained. The Adventists’ Southeastern California Conference elected a female president, and several of the church’s 13 worldwide divisions have approved theological reviews suggesting that women’s ordination should be widely accepted.

Women pastors have often held a “commissioned” credential without being formally ordained.

More than 500 people attending Tuesday’s meeting at church headquarters in Silver Spring heard both sides of the issue after a task force spent two years studying theological questions about ordination.

Artur Stele, who chaired the Theology of Ordination Study Committee, said the 106-member panel gained a consensus on the theology of ordination but not on whether women should be ordained.

“If someone has made up his mind or her mind, it is impossible to change it,” he said. “Very, very little change took place. This really reminds me of our need to be open for God’s guidance.”

The committee outlined options ranging from outright prohibition to allowing women’s ordination in some regional bodies where it is deemed “appropriate” but not forcing any individual pastor or congregation “to support such diversity.”

Stele, along with other speakers, said the church cannot keep pushing off a final decision.

“Then the task would be an eternal task,” he said. “Even when Jesus would come we would still be in the final sections of the report.”

SDA President Ted N.C. Wilson said the 127-page committee report was endorsed by an array of church leaders. But, in an attempt to move toward a final resolution, those officers also recommended that a question be brought to the 2015 meeting “that is not a weighted question one way or another,” Wilson said.

For hours, the delegates debated whether the question was unbiased, should be changed or would split the church.

Dan Jackson, who heads the Adventists’ North American Division, supports women clergy and said “we will not break the church if individual divisions have the right to ordain women.”

Alberto C. Gulfan Jr., president of the Southern Asia-Pacific Division, expressed his appreciation for how women serve in many evangelistic and educational roles — including “Sabbath school superintendents” — but said his division has not affirmed their ordination as pastors. He, too, wants a final vote by the General Conference delegates.

“We are also supporting this recommendation to bring this to the General Conference in session and let the world church decide on the issue once and for all,” he said.
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The world church, the General Conference in Session has already decided the matter twice. What comes to my mind is the question, which way is the church moving, up or down?  Those in rebellion against Scripture and the World Church seem to believe the church is moving downward. What do you think? Is the becoming more holy, or is the church moving away from Jesus and His Word? We know about Western Europe and North America, but what about the rest of the church?
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Theology of Ordination: Position No. 1
The notes that Clinton Wahlen used in his 20-minute presentation to the Annual Council.

Posted October 23, 2014

By Clinton Wahlen, Ph.D., associate director of the Biblical Research Institute

Editor’s note: In the interest of providing a better understanding of the three positions on women’s ordination that emerged from a two-year study by the Theology of Ordination Study Committee, or TOSC, the Adventist Review is publishing the notes that three Adventist theologians used to give 20-minute presentations of each position to the church delegates of the Annual Council on Oct. 14, 2014. Read Position No. 2 and Position No. 3.

Good morning! I have good news for us this morning: There is far more that unites us than divides us … even on the subject of women’s ordination.

    Christ is the Head of the Church: We all agree that Christ is the Head of the church, and that it belongs to Christ alone (Eph. 1:22; Col. 2:10).
    The Great Commission is for all: We all agree that the Great Commission applies to every Christian, men, women, and children, and that the Spirit works through every believer around the world to accomplish that work.
    Spiritual Gifts are Gender-Inclusive: We all agree that every believer receives one or more spiritual gifts, and so the gifts are gender-inclusive.
    The Priesthood of All Believers: We all agree that all Christians are part of the priesthood of all believers and have direct access to God through prayer, and that pastors and elders are not priests.
    Full Equality by Creation: We all agree that both men and women are fully equal because all human beings are created in the image of God.
    Unity in Christ: We all agree that in Christ “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus” and “heirs according to promise” (Gal. 3:28, 29).
    The End-time Outpouring of God’s Spirit: We all believe in the end-time promise of Joel 2 in the Latter Rain: “I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; and your sons and daughters will prophesy. … Even on the male and female servants I will pour out My Spirit in those days” (Joel 2:28-29).

Position No. 1 affirms all of these Biblical teachings. It is not in conflict with any of them.

In addition, the TOSC “Consensus Statement” shows that more than 90 percent of the committee agreed that the ordination of church leaders is biblical (“Study Committee Votes Consensus Statement on ‘Theology of Ordination,’” Adventist Review [Aug. 15, 2013], page 8 ). We can only summarize a few points here:

    Ordination is a biblical practice, setting apart ministers who oversee the church when they meet the Scriptural qualifications.
    The New Testament identifies two categories of ordained leaders: 1) elders, including “supervising” elders who oversee multiple congregations, and 2) deacons.
    Some individuals are to be ordained for “global church ministry.”

The Main Question

There was only one question on which we had no consensus: “Do the biblical qualifications for the gospel minister who oversees the church allow a woman to be ordained to this office?”

In answering this question, we should not overlook the fact that two of the three groups found clear evidence in Scripture for a biblical model of male leadership. Note this statement from Position Summary No. 3:

We believe that there is a biblical model of male ecclesiological leadership that has validity across time and culture. — TOSC Report, p. 100 (emphasis original).

So, even on women’s ordination there is a clear biblical answer. It’s found in 1 Timothy (see “Is ‘Husband of One Wife’ in 1 Timothy 3:2 Gender-Specific?”).

Gender-Inclusive vs. Gender-Exclusive

Unlike most of Paul’s letters, 1 Timothy is not written to a particular church. Like Titus, it’s written to a gospel minister. Its purpose is to give Timothy instructions on church order: “I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth” (1 Tim. 3:15).

1. Gender-Inclusive (1 Tim. 2:1-7)

When Paul wants to be gender-inclusive, he uses gender-inclusive language as he does repeatedly in 1 Timothy 2 (Gk. pas, anthrōpos):

Prayer should be offered for all people (v. 1);

God desires all people to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth (v. 4).

Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all (v. 6).

2. Gender-Specific (1 Tim. 2:8-15)

Paul also uses gender-specific language to explain how men and women should relate to each other in the worship setting.

Men are to take the lead in the church’s worship and prayer (v. 8 ).

Women should dress modestly. They should not try to usurp the established teaching authority of the minister who oversees the church (vv. 9‑12).

Paul bases this teaching on Genesis 2 and 3, which we’ll come to in a moment: “For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression” (vv. 13, 14).

3. Gender-Exclusive (1 Tim. 3:1-12)

Beginning in chapter 3 with the qualifications for church officers, Paul uses even more specific, gender-exclusive language. He does not refer to just “anyone” but says, according to the NASB preferred by Position No. 2. (TOSC Report, p. 69, n. 9), “If any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do” (v. 1).

Then he lists the qualifications for this office:

“An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife …” (v. 2).

This is not just gender-specific, it’s gender-exclusive, for several reasons:

    It is a fixed requirement, appearing three times: here and in Titus 1:6 for overseers/elders, and for deacons in 1 Tim. 3:12.
    Women assistants, sometimes called deaconesses, are referred to in v. 11 as a group separate from both elders and deacons, with a different list of qualifications, so they cannot be included in either one.
    Paul uses the opposite phrase, “wife of one husband,” in 1 Tim. 5:9, referring to widows. That means Paul meant what he said.
    If Paul had wanted to be gender-neutral, he could have combined these two phrases, “the overseer … must be the husband of one wife or the wife of one husband.” But Paul didn’t do this.
    Paul deals, in order, with smaller and smaller groups: first “all” (gender-inclusive), then “men” and “women” (gender-specific), and finally “husband of one wife” (gender-exclusive).

Note that the text says “must”(Gk. dei).The wording is as clear in Greek as it is in English. It’s as clear as the command to “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Exod. 20: 8 ).

Of course, this Biblical command about ministers who oversee the church is not one of the Ten Commandments, but it’s still a command. The command to abstain from unclean foods is not one of the ten but it’s still a command. So is Jesus’ command to follow His example in washing each other’s feet; and His command in connection with the Lord’s Supper, “Do this in remembrance of Me” (1 Cor. 11:24) Or the Great Commission to, “Go, and make disciples …” (Matt. 28:19). None of these are part of the Ten Commandments, but they’re still commands. They’re not optional.

When Paul says “must,” it’s very clear. He even chose the strongest possible command form in Greek to say it.

The fact that Paul uses the creation order from Eden as the basis for the roles of men and women in the church shows two things: (1) this is a theological issue, not just a practical issue; and (2) these roles were God’s ideal before the fall and therefore reflect God’s ideal for us today.

Studying the account of creation and the Fall, we find that Paul and Genesis are in perfect harmony. They do not contradict each other.

Creation Order Leadership in Genesis

Genesis 1 describes the creation of the first human beings in these words: “God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them” (Gen 1:27). Since both man and woman are created in God’s image, both have equal value. Modern culture wants us to think that equal means identical. But equality does not destroy our uniqueness. Adam and Eve were alike in the ability to think and reason but different in temperament and body. They were also created by God at different times.

It is no secret why Adam was created first: because God gave him the primary leadership responsibility.

Order of Creation:

    Man: to keep the garden (Gen. 2:15); told what to eat and what to avoid (Gen. 2:16-17)
    Woman: given as man’s “helper” (Gen. 2:18 ).

Manner of Creation:

    Eve shares with Adam the divine dominion (Gen. 1:26)
    He cannot lead without her because she is his helper (Gen. 2:18, 20)

In fact, the climax of this second part of the creation account is not the creation of Eve but the creation of the family. Just as the Sabbath forms the climax of the first half of the creation account (Gen. 2:1-3), God’s marriage of the man and woman is the pinnacle of the second half (Gen. 2:24; cf. Matt. 19:4-6).

Genesis 3 relates the story of the Fall, and a reversal of the creation order leadership principle.

Paul’s reasoning in 1 Timothy 2 and 3 takes us back to this foundational leadership principle based on the creation order: “Adam was formed first, then Eve” (v. 13). By mentioning the creation order, man first and then woman, Paul brings us back to Eden and shows that its ideal leadership arrangement is valid in the church for all time.

Women Keeping Silent in Church

While 1 Timothy 3:2 is very clear — that the minister who oversees the church “must be the husband of one wife,” some say that if we’re going to take this text literally, then, according to 1 Corinthians 14, women must keep silent in church.

Even with this passage, a plain reading of the text applies. Let’s consider some important points about this passage:

    Unlike the Pastoral Epistles of Timothy and Titus, which were written to ministers serving many different areas, 1 Corinthians was written to a specific church in Corinth.
    It was written primarily to address specific issues and questions that came up in Corinth.
    1 Corinthians 14 addresses the practices of three groups who were causing significant disruptions in the worship service at Corinth.
    These disruptions were caused by men as well as women because (1) men were speaking in tongues without an interpreter (vv. 27-28); (2) men were prophesying without interpretation (vv. 29-33); and (3) women “kept asking questions” (Gk. eperōtatōsan) while people were speaking (vv. 34-35).
    Paul commands all three groups to “keep silent” — using a very strong word in Greek (Gk. sigaō), a word he doesn’t use in 1 Timothy where he instructs women during the worship service to learn quietly (1 Tim. 2:11-12). We need to remember Paul is not talking about a Sabbath School class, but explaining how the Christians in Corinth can preserve reverence and decorum in worship.

Religious Offices in the Old and New Testaments

Let’s return now to our main question: can women also be ordained to serve as gospel ministers who oversee the church?

To answer this question fully, we must look at what the entire Bible says — briefly because of time.

While we see a variety of female Bible characters who have important roles throughout Scripture (e.g., Miriam and Deborah in the Old Testament; Mary, Priscilla, Phoebe, Junia and others in the New Testament), two key points stand out:

    No woman was ever given a priestly role in the Old Testament.
    And no woman in the New Testament ever functioned as an apostle or gospel minister overseeing the church.

Jesus, as the Head of God’s church in both the Old and New Testaments, has made very clear by precept and by practice who is to be ordained to this office.

In the Old Testament, even though Israel was a priesthood of believers (Ex. 19:5-6), God commanded that priests and Levites—all men—be set apart to lead Israel in worship and religious instruction (Exod.40:12-16;29:9; Num. 8 :10, 18-20; see Position No. 1, 21-22). For both the priests and the Levites, clear qualifications and rituals were commanded for their ordination. These qualifications were not optional.

In the New Testament church, Jesus ordained 12 men as apostles. They were His gospel ministers to oversee the church and were commissioned to ordain other leaders from every nation, kindred, tongue, and people (Matt. 28:19-20; Rev. 14:6).

The gender requirements were not temporary. Even though Jesus and Paul emphasized that the gospel and even leadership was open to the Gentiles, the gender requirement was never changed. Paul refers to the creation order to show its applicability for all time.

Paul and Barnabas “ordained elders in every church” and Paul likewise instructed Titus, “appoint elders in every city as I commanded you” (Titus 1:5).

In actual fact, gender is the fundamental qualification upon which the others are all built and “is a clear, unambiguous requirement that gives no room for misinterpretation or misunderstanding.” (Position No. 1, 13-14).

Some argue that if women can work in full-time ministry, why shouldn’t we give them what some are asking for? Why not ordain them? We cannot do that for one simple reason:

It is not ours to give as we see fit, for God says that he is to be “the husband of one wife” (1 Tim. 3:2) and that it is not permitted for a woman to usurp his authority as the gospel minister who oversees the church (1 Tim. 2:11-12). The Bible is so plain on this point in order that there would be no misunderstanding as to the qualifications for ordination to the office of gospel ministry.

The Jerusalem Council of Acts 15

Now let’s briefly consider the Jerusalem Council as recorded in Acts 15. As you know, some Jewish Christians continued to believe in the temple, its services, and its laws, meaning, in their view, that Gentile believers, in order to be saved, had to be circumcised (Acts 15:1). Therefore, it was a theological issue that was at stake.

    Circumcision was not instituted in the Garden of Eden like the Sabbath, the family, and creation order leadership.
    Circumcision began with Abraham, who was the father of the Hebrews.
    Unlike the Sabbath and creation order leadership, which cannot be changed, circumcision is connected with the ceremonial law (Acts 15:5).
    Like the ceremonial law, circumcision is a shadow pointing forward to the gift of the Spirit and the new birth symbolized by baptism. Peter indicates as much in his speech to the Jerusalem Council: God was “giving them [Gentiles] the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us [Jews]; and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith” (Acts 15:8-9). Like the ceremonial law, circumcision was a “shadow of things to come” and came to an end with the death of Christ and God’s rending of the temple veil from top to bottom.



The Jerusalem Council listened to all sides of the issue. However, because it was a theological matter, their decision was based exclusively on the Old Testament Scriptures and God’s revelation given three times to Peter in vision.

The Jerusalem Council did not establish two different standards based on culture — one for Jewish believers and another for Gentiles. The decision of the council was a decision that pertained to all Christians everywhere — both Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ. And because of that, the result was a unified church worldwide.

The Jerusalem Council did not institutionalize a division in the church between Jews and Gentiles — just the opposite. They reaffirmed that Christ’s death on the cross broke down the wall between Jews and Gentiles: “For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace” (Eph. 2:14, 15).

In other words, by its decision the Jerusalem Council declared that there was no such thing as Jew or Gentile anymore, and that all had to live by the same laws — the laws of the kingdom of heaven, as one people, united in Christ.

The Jerusalem Council shows us that when there is disagreement and dissension in the church — we are not to look to our own culture for wisdom and guidance. Instead, God provides a solution based on Scripture and divine revelation.
Conclusion

    Because the issue we are facing today is theological and connected with the creation order, it is far greater than whether a woman should be ordained as a gospel minister overseeing the church. The question is whether Scripture or culture will guide the church.
    As we have seen, Scripture, both Old and New Testaments, is clear, and if we compromise our faithfulness to Scripture on this point, we will have compromised our only basis of unity. As much as we appreciate diversity, it is Scripture, our Bible-based faith and practice, that holds us together, not diversity. It is this Bible-based unity that will protect us from the scourges of pluralism. Our confidence in the unity of Scripture can only be maintained if we continue to interpret it in the way the Bible interprets itself. If we begin to interpret it differently in different places, there is nothing to keep the church from splintering over tithe, congregationalism, homosexuality, and other issues. Just as the Sabbath and marriage cannot be compromised without compromising the unity of the church, neither can the creation order leadership given in Genesis and affirmed by Paul, because it applies to self-sacrificing leadership in the church. That principle cannot be compromised without ultimately destroying the unity of the church. If we allow diversity here, it will divide us. It already has divided us to some extent. When Israel demanded a king, rejecting God’s kingship and His plan for leadership over them, Israel was divided, and ultimately Israel was destroyed.
    The Jerusalem Council made its decision based on divine revelation. After deep, thorough Bible Study, we can reaffirm the Scriptural basis for the decisions of the GC sessions in 1990 and 1995.

Position No. 1 respectfully and prayerfully recommends the following to the Seventh-day Adventist Church in its Way Forward Statement:

    Reaffirm and encourage, with public recognition and licensure, women whom God has called to gospel work;
    Provide enhanced access to educational opportunities for women in gospel work and ensure fair and just treatment upon their placement in ministry;
    Return to the biblical practice of electing and ordaining only men to the office of local elder throughout the world church, while providing for women to serve as un-ordained church leaders under certain circumstances;
    Retain the scriptural practice of ordaining/commissioning only qualified men to the office of pastor/minister throughout the world church in harmony with the consistent example of Christ, the apostles, and the Adventist pioneers;
    Promote the greater development of various lines of ministry for women, according to their spiritual gifts, including but not limited to personal and public evangelism, teaching, preaching, ministering to families, counseling, medical missionary work, and departmental leadership.
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Theology of Ordination: Position No. 2
The notes that Carl P. Cosaert used in his 20-minute presentation to the Annual Council.

Posted October 23, 2014

By Carl P. Cosaert, Ph.D., Walla Walla University

Editor’s note: In the interest of providing a better understanding of the three positions on women’s ordination that emerged from a two-year study by the Theology of Ordination Study Committee, the Adventist Review is publishing the notes that three Adventist theologians used to give 20-minute presentations of each position to the church delegates of the Annual Council on Oct. 14, 2014. Read Position No. 1 and Position No. 3.

Good morning. It is a privilege for me to address you on an issue of great importance for our church — the question of the ordination of women to the gospel ministry. How we move forward on this subject is not only of the utmost importance for the unity of our church today, but I also believe it is just as important to the spread of the Three Angels' Message in the days to come.

To be honest, it is somewhat ironic that I am speaking to you in favor of the ordination of women — for I have not always been an advocate for this position.

In the earliest days of my ministry as a pastor, I was uncomfortable with the ordination of women. I was hesitant for two basic reasons:

First, I was concerned because I associated the push for women's ordination with those in the church who seemed, in my opinion, to have a more liberal agenda for the church and less concern for the authority of Scripture — a troubling pattern that seemed to already be at work in other denominations. As such, I worried that ordaining women was more of a concession to changing cultural norms than it was to the unchangeable norms of Scripture.

My second concern was that ordaining women also seemed opposed to a straightforward or plain reading of Scripture. After all, there were no women priests, no female apostles, and Paul said in 1 Timothy that a woman should not teach or exercise authority over a man. Paul even appeared to base his instructions on the established order of creation.

Over the last several years, my views have changed, however. The reason I have changed my opinion is not because I have backed away from the authority of Scripture, but because I believe I have read the Scriptures more closely.

While I remain concerned about the growing influence of cultural trends on the spiritual life of the church, I do not believe the ordination of women to the gospel ministry is a concession to cultural pressure.

Like my colleagues whose position I represent this morning, I believe that ordaining women is the right thing for us to do as a church for three reasons: (1) It is consistent with what the Scripture teach about the nature of the church in the New Testament; (2) It also affirms the way in which God ordered society when He created men and women in the very beginning; and (3) It is in harmony with what the Holy Spirit has already been doing in the church through the ministry of Ellen White, through female pastors, and also through the ministry of women who have been serving the church around the globe as local church elders since 1975.

1. What does the Bible teach about the New Testament church?

When we turn to the church in the New Testament, we find an expansion and reordering of God's plan to redeem the world. The recognition that Jesus was, in fact, the promised Messiah, not just for the Jews, but also for all the Gentiles radically and forever changed the way the early Christians related to each other and also to the world. Over time the tribal, ethnic, and gender restrictions contained in the Levitical law gave way to a fuller understanding of the gospel that recognized in God's kingdom a true equality, for in His kingdom there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, and there is no male and female, for all are one in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:28). And so, whereas only the male descendants of Levi functioned as priests in God's temple in the Old Testament, the early church embraced the priesthood of all believers — not just Jewish men from any tribe, nor even the addition of male Gentiles, but also female believers. In the same way that the high priestly ministry of Jesus was far greater than that of any Jewish priest, so the spiritual ministry of men and women was also seen as greater than that of only the sons of Levi.

2. Now you may ask, but does this mean that men and women are the same in everything?

Absolutely not! Equality in Christ and the priesthood of all believers does not mean that every man and woman perform the same roles or functions.

Listen to the word of the Lord …

“Now there are varieties of gifts … and there are varieties of service … and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone …”

“So we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith; if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in teaching;the one who exhorts, in exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal …”

“All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.” (1 Cor. 12:4-6; Rom. 12:5-8; 1 Cor. 12:7).

Scripture is clear. The gifts of the Spirit and the positions associated with them are not based on gender. They are based entirely on the discretion of the Holy Spirit and are distributed freely to both men and women.

3. You may ask, “If the gifts of the Spirit are not based on gender, why then does Paul say in 1 Timothy that a woman should not teach or exercise authority over a man?”

Paul does prohibit the women in 1 Timothy from teaching, but the reason is not because of their gender. The reason for his injunction is because the believing women in Ephesus had become involved with the false teachers who were destroying the work of God.

A plain reading of the entire passage, not just this single verse, makes this clear. Listen to what Paul says to Timothy at the very beginning of the letter.

"As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine,nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith" (1 Tim. 1:3, 4).

Timothy was to remain in Ephesus for one purpose — to protect the church from certain individuals who were teaching a different gospel. In addition to condemning the false teachers and their "irreverent babble" in chapters 4 and 6, in chapter 5 Paul also connects the practice of the women in the church with the spread of a false gospel when he describes some of them as having "strayed after Satan" and he chastises others for "going about from house to house...saying what they should not" (1 Tim. 5:15, 13).

So when Paul says the women in Ephesus should not teach, he does so as part of his overall concern to silence the individuals in the church who were not teaching the truth. The women he prohibits are part of that group. They needed to learn the true gospel before they were qualified to serve as teachers. Paul's prohibition was, therefore, a temporary and local response to the specific situation in Ephesus.

To claim that Paul's counsel prohibits all women at all times from forever serving as teachers and leaders within the church disregards a plain reading of all the other passages in the New Testament where Paul affirms the role of women leading out in the church, women like Euodia and Syntyche who Paul says "labored side by side" with him as colleagues in proclaiming the "gospel" (Phil. 4:2, 3), or the woman Phoebe who Paul identifies in Romans 16 as a deacon in the church of Cenchrae.

This is not to say that Paul's counsel in 1 Timothy doesn't apply to us today. It does. Scripture always has a universal and timeless application for the church. The application, however, has to be to a similar situation within the church — in other words, to situations where false teachers — whether women or men — need to be silenced because they are undermining the proclamation of the gospel.

4. You may ask, "Why then does Paul support his prohibition against the women in Ephesus from teaching by appealing to the creation of Adam before Eve and identifying the woman as the one who was deceived and became a transgressor."

Paul's reference to Eve was intended to serve as a vivid warning to the women in Ephesus of the danger of listening to the false teachers and being influenced by them. The story of Eve's involvement in the fall illustrated in the strongest terms just how dangerous it was to listen to false teachings. Paul also refers to the deception of Eve when warning against false teachers in 2 Corinthians 11:3, 4.

5. But why then does Paul refer to the creation order?

The reason Paul emphasizes the creation order is because he is trying to correct the manner in which the women in Ephesus were seeking to carry out their teaching authority. When the Bible says a woman should not teach or "exercise authority" the word translated as "exercise authority" is not the typical word used for authority. It means "to control," "to rule over," or to try to "dominate." It indicates that the women in Ephesus were exercising authority in a domineering manner that reflected negatively upon the men in the congregation and, in particular, their husbands. Paul appeals to the creation account to remind them that women were not created to domineer over men, but that in the same way that Eve was created to be Adam's equal partner, the women in Ephesus should treat men with the respect required of an equal.

Those who argue against women's ordination interpret this passage just the opposite way — they claim it means that men have the authority within the church to rule over women. But that sort of interpretation goes against a plain reading of the way God ordered the relationship of men and women in creation.

The Bible teaches in Genesis that God created men and women as equals and that neither one of them was placed under the authority of the other.

We are told in Genesis that, "God created humankind in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female He created them (Gen. 1:27). Outside of their biological differences, God did not establish any stereotypical roles that constituted the “essence” of what it meant to be a man or a woman. Instead, Adam and Eve were created as equals who were united together in the same sort of mutual submission that is expressed in the Godhead itself. Rather than assigning to them certain predetermined or arbitrary roles based on their gender, God gave them the freedom to develop the gifts He gave them to fulfill the various responsibilities associated with them. And it was through the use of those abilities that God intended not only Adam and Eve, but also every man and every woman to fulfill the divine charge to be fruitful and multiply, to fill the earth and subdue it, and to exercise dominion over all the other creatures (Gen. 1:27, 28).

The fact that Adam was created before the women does not suggest that Adam had authority over her. The entire story of creation is a movement from incompleteness to completeness. The creation of Adam first merely indicates that the creation of humankind was not yet complete — God was still at work. To argue that what is created first is superior would suggest that the birds and the animals were superior to the human race. The equality of men and women united together in mutual submission is most clearly represented in the fact that God created Eve from Adam's side — not his head or foot — to show that she was, as Ellen White says, to "stand by his side as an equal” (Patriarchs and Prophets, page 47). It is this equality in the creation order that Paul refers to when rebuking the domineering women in Ephesus.

Paul also appeals to the creation order in 1 Corinthians 11 when addressing the behavior of the believing women in Corinth. Like the church in Ephesus, the women in Corinth were acting in a way that was bringing dishonor to their husbands — in their case, they had stopped wearing the traditional head covering when leading out in public worship.

Although there was nothing intrinsically wrong with not covering their heads, it was a problem culturally. A woman who did not cover her head in public in the Greco-Roman world was seen as immodest, since uncovered hair was often the sign of a prostitute. As such, these women were bringing shame upon the reputation of their husbands, and also causing a distraction during worship.

In appealing to these women to change their ways, Paul argues that what they do with their literal head has huge implications for their metaphorical head — that is their husbands. Paul argues that although the woman was created as man's equal partner, the fact that the first woman was created from Adam's side indicates that a wife brings glory and honor to her husband because she is a reflection of him. The behavior of these women, however, was doing just the opposite. Rather than shame their husbands, they are to cover their heads to bring honor to them, and also to make sure that all the honor and glory during worship is given to God, not to any man.

But it is important to note that Paul does not stop there. He also says in 1 Cor. 11:11, 12, "Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman." In other words, the honor in marriage of which Paul speaks is not a one-way street. Neither the husband nor the wife should do anything that would undermine the reputation of the other or damage the influence of the gospel.

A plain reading of the passage reveals that Paul is not speaking about church leadership and authority, or ordination. He is talking about the way women should relate to their husbands. The passage says nothing about the headship of all men over all women. If anything, the passages affirms not only the right of women to pray in public, but also to prophesy, which is a form of teaching.

Like the creation account itself, Paul's references to the creation order in 1 Timothy 2 and 1 Corinthians 11 leave open the possibility for women to exercise authority and to hold positions of leadership within the church. In fact, not only do we find examples of women exercising the spiritual gift of leadership in the New Testament, but also in the Old Testament. We have examples of Miriam, a noted prophet and leader along side her brothers Moses and Aaron (Micah 6:4), the prophet Huldah (2 Kings 22:14-20; 2 Chron. 34:22-28), and Deborah, who functioned not only as a prophet, but also as a judge exercising authority over both men and women. All of these examples demonstrate that there is nothing morally or spiritually wrong with women serving in leadership roles among God's people.

6. If that is the case, why then does Paul say that in order to serve as an overseer or elder within the church that the individual must be the husband of one wife? Doesn't that exclude women from serving in a leadership role in the church?

No, I do not think it does. The phrase translated a "husband of one wife" in Greek literally means a "one-woman man." This expression not only applies to overseers and elders, but also as one of the qualifications for deacons later in the chapter. While those who argue against ordaining women see this verse as conclusive evidence that women are to be excluded from exercising authority in the church, the earliest Christians did not see it that way. While the expression is gender specific, early Christians did not believe it was gender exclusive.

We can see this in the fact that although Paul says a deacon must be a "one-woman man," women still served in the early church as deacons. We know, for example, from Romans 16 that a woman named Phoebe served the church in Cenchrae in the official capacity as a deacon — and we know of many more women who served as deacons in the early church. What is significant is that the requirement that a deacon be a "one-woman man" was not seen as an obstacle to the ministry of female deacons. The earliest Christians clearly understood the expression a "one- woman man" as a reference to the importance of sexual purity, which was understood in a monogamous relationship between a man and a woman. The passage no more excludes women from ministry than it does single or childless men from serving the church as overseers.

Like the Bible, Ellen G. White also does not explicitly prohibit the ordination of women to ministry. In both what she said and what she did, Ellen White encouraged women to study and develop their God-given gifts so they might serve the church in positions of leadership. As a woman, Ellen White certainly taught and exercised authority over both men and women.

In conclusion, I believe that the only position that is truly consistent with Scripture, the doctrine of the church, and that truly promotes the unity of the church is allowing for the ordination of women to the gospel ministry. This view is not opposed to Scripture, nor does it have to be rationalized as an accommodation or modification of a so-called universal pattern of male headship over all women. There is no command forbidding it. It is consistent with the teachings of the Bible and the fundamental beliefs of Adventism. It promotes the mission and unity of the church, and it is in harmony with the way in which the Spirit has guided this church thorough the ministry of Ellen White, and with what the Holy Spirit has already been doing in the church through the ministry of female pastors. On this basis, we would recommend that the world church allow for the ordination of women to the gospel ministry in those areas of the world church that are comfortable with it.
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Theology of Ordination: Position No. 3
The notes that Nicholas Miller used in his 20-minute presentation to the Annual Council.

Posted October 23, 2014

By Nicholas Miller, Ph.D., Seventh-day Adventist Theological Seminary

Editor’s note: In the interest of providing a better understanding of the three positions on women’s ordination that emerged from a two-year study by the Theology of Ordination Study Committee, the Adventist Review is publishing the notes that three Adventist theologians used to give 20-minute presentations of each position to the church delegates of the Annual Council on Oct. 14, 2014. Read Position No. 1 and Position No. 2.

Our church finds itself in very strange waters. We have always believed that a faithful study of Scripture, carried out with an openness to the Holy Spirit, would lead to a single conclusion on matters of doctrine and practice. But today we find men and women of good will, committed to the authority of Scripture, praying for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and yet coming down on different sides of what the Bible teaches about ordination. The one point that we can all agree on is that we have not achieved agreement in the ordination discussion.

Given this impasse, we are now faced with the question of how to move forward as a church. The moderate group believes that under these circumstances, the Bible calls for “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God” (Eph. 5:21). By its very nature, mutual submission involves a certain sacrifice by all, for the greater good and unity of all. With the guidance of the Spirit, however, we believe that the central concerns within the various positions in the ordination discussion can be affirmed without sacrificing principle, while still maintaining the unity of the body of Christ.
Theological Background

Group three is not merely group two dressed up in more conservative guise, or group one hiding beneath a progressive veneer. We have a solution that is truly different than both groups propose. Our position offers a general rule of male ordained ministerial leadership, which can be varied from. This is a unique proposal, which I will discuss at greater length later. First, to understand the biblical basis of group three, we list those crucial points of theology found in the other groups that we embrace in creating our unique, moderate position.

1. Nature of the Trinity. We believe that Christ is co-existent and co-equal with the Father and the Spirit from eternity. Thus, we do not believe in the eternal subordination of the Son, as some presenters opposed to women’s ordination have proposed. (Dt. 6:4; Is. 9:6; Mic. 5:2; Mt. 28:19; Jn. 8:58; 17:24; Heb. 1:8-12; 2 Cor. 13:14).

2. Pre-Fall Roles for Man and Woman. We believe there existed meaningful roles for men and women before the fall that, that while not hierarchical, did involve responsibilities for distinct, but complementary servant leadership roles. We do not believe in the idea of male headship prior to the Fall, insofar as that involved “authority over” Eve. (Gen. 2:15-25; 3:9, 16-20; 1 Cor. 11:8; 15:22.)

3. Post-Fall Family Headship. After the Fall, God instituted a male headship role in the family that, while loving, self-sacrificing, and service oriented, gives the male an oversight responsibility for his family that is of continuing validity. (Gen. 3:16; 18:12, 19; 1 Pet. 3:1, 6; Eph. 5:22-24.)

4. Male Ecclesiastical Leadership. We believe that there is a biblical model of male ecclesiological leadership that has validity across time and culture. We see this leadership preference in Paul’s invocation of the creation order and the fall in discussing the office of elder, in the predominate fact of male institutional spiritual leadership in the OT, in the actions of Christ in choosing 12 male disciples, and in the NT examples of apostles and elders. (1 Tim. 2:12-13; Num. 3:10, 38; Mt. 27:55; Acts 1:21-23; Titus 1:6-7.)

5. Christ is Head of the Church. There is no basis, however, to suggest that men have a general headship in the church, exercising husbandly or paternal authority over women or anyone else. Only Christ is head in the church. His statement that we should “call no man father” (Matt. 23:9) was intended to prevent a human, paternal headship in the church.

6. Gifts Versus Offices. We see an important distinction between spiritual gifts, which are given by sovereign action of the Holy Spirit, where gender considerations are not a biblical concern, and church offices, chosen by the church membership according to biblical qualifications, and where gender is mentioned, e.g., the office of elder. (1 Cor. 12:4-11; 1 Tim. 2:12; 3:1-2; Tit. 1:6-8.)

7. Male Spiritual Leadership in the Church. We believe that Paul’s statements about a preferred role for a male in the office of elder (the equivalent of our ordained minister) is a functional, ecclesiastical norm meant to further church order, discipline, and mission. (1 Tim. 2:12-14; 3:1-7; 1 Cor. 11:2-5; Titus 2:2-8.)

8. Maleness: One Qualification Among Many. We view, however, the gender qualification of elder as one characteristic among many, and as not absolute over all the others. We do not think we should make this point of ecclesiastical order paramount over other more important doctrinal concerns, such as the mission and unity of the body of Christ. (Acts 15: 19; Acts 16:3)

9. The Role of Trajectory Arguments. We believe that positions based on trajectory arguments can be biblically valid, such as that for slavery. However, unlike slavery, a view of male ministerial leadership is derived from Paul’s inspired understanding and teaching regarding the creation, human nature, the fall, and the incarnation. (Gen. 1:27; Gal 3:28; Titus 2:9-10; 1 Tim. 2:12-14; 1 Cor. 11:3-5.)

10. Hermeneutical Concerns. We believe that the hermeneutical methods that some who support women’s ordination use to exegete the New Testament gender texts will create problems in dealing with passages regarding sexual standards. If we claim that the injunctions of 1 Tim. 2 and 1 Cor. 11 are cultural, despite their references to creation, the fall, and the trinity, how can we insist that the teachings in Rom 1 about God, sexuality, and nature are universal? It opens the door to arguing that any objection to Adam and Steve, as opposed to Adam and Eve, is just based on culture. We do not believe this, and our approach safeguards against it. (1 Tim. 2:12-13; Rom. 1:18-27)
A Proposed Way Forward

1. Expansion of Opportunities for Women in Ministry. In TOSC, a consensus has emerged on the vital importance of empowering Adventist women everywhere, regardless of ordination, to greater involvement in a wide range of ministries. Initiatives both affirming women in ministry and supporting them with education and resources would begin to rectify our failure to do so over much of the last century, as we succumbed to cultural patriarchy in disregard of prophetic counsel.

2. The Office of Elder, the Criteria of Gender, and the Divine Command/Ideal Distinction. But while repenting of our patriarchy, we should not slide into the opposite ditch of western cultural feminism. Rather, we should affirm that the Bible does call men to special leadership responsibilities; that it reveals that male leadership in the office of ordained minister is a biblical pattern. But we should also acknowledge that it is not in the category of divine moral absolute, such as a Ten Commandment, a matter of salvation, or a fundamental doctrine of the church.

Rather, it is an ecclesiological organizational norm, and is primarily meant to further the mission and functioning of the church. Based on biblical precedent, we believe that this leadership ideal can be adapted to promote the mission and unity of the church. This understanding of the relative importance of the gender criteria is based on the difference between: 1. God’s absolute moral commands and eternal truths, and 2. His ideals for organizing His people.

The former include the Ten Commandments, the pillar doctrines of Christianity, and consistently articulated scriptural limits on personal moral behavior. The latter, we believe, deal with ritual, ceremonial, organizational or legal practices and precepts, whose intent is to bring order to the community of believers, safeguard the identity of God’s people, and enhance the church’s mission. An important insight of position three is that being faithful to scriptural teaching includes applying it in a spirit and manner that the Bible itself calls for. One can make a biblical teaching actually unbiblical by imposing it in a manner more absolute and rigid than the Bible itself does.

There are a number of instances in the Bible where God allowed for the modification of His initial plans for the Israelites in relation to matters of leadership and/or gender. None of these episodes are direct analogs of the situation in which we currently find ourselves. Rather, they express principles that, in combination, show a willingness by God to adapt, through his people, for gospel mission, certain organizational and liturgical practices.

3. A King in Israel. The Scripture makes it apparent that God’s ideal plan for the nation of Israel was not that of kingship (1 Sam. 8:10-20). He wanted them to be led by a combination of prophets, judges, priests, and elders. Still, when Israel desired a king, God accommodated this desire, even though the choice was prompted by the surrounding society and culture. “The Lord answered [Samuel], “Listen to them and give them a king” (1 Sam. 8:23).

At that point, not only did the kingship become acceptable to God, the king himself became the Lord’s anointed, literally, when Samuel poured oil on Saul (1 Sam. 10:1). Thereafter kings were frequently anointed by prophets or high priests as a sign of divine appointment (1 Sam. 16:13, 1 Kgs. 1:39, 45, 2 Kgs. 9:1-6, 2 Chron. 23:11).

That the kingship was a burden to Israel, and that individual kings fell into sin did not change God’s endorsement of the institution. This story of the king shows that God is willing to vary His organizational ideal to accommodate cultural circumstances and the desires of His people. Since God was not willing to reject His people for rejecting one of His organizational ideals, it should cause us to seriously reflect on how we relate to one another when there are differences in understanding such ideals.

4. The Daughters of Zelophehad. In ancient Israel, sons were intended by Divine law to inherit property. (Deut. 21:15-17). But the four daughters of Zelophehad had no brothers and, once their father died, his name and property would be dissipated among the people. The daughters petitioned Moses that, in the absence of brothers, they be allowed to inherit property. Moses brought the case to the Lord, Who said that that “the daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father’s possession.” (Num. 27:7)

Again, in this instance the Lord explicitly approves the adaptation, but He does it in response to a human request. There was nothing in the law prior to the daughters’ entreaty that suggested adaptation or variation of the law was permissible. Rather, God modified His law, His civil statutes, at the request of not just important community leaders, but of young, unmarried girls in a highly patriarchal culture. The story thus indicates that there is an important role for the community of believers in adaptations of God’s plans for ordering His people.

5. Deborah and Barak. Deborah “led” or “judged” Israel, and “held court” under a palm tree, where she decided the “disputes” of the Israelites (Jdg. 4:4-5). There are indications in the story that a female judge was a rare and unusual event. Deborah is the only woman recorded in the Bible to have been a judge of Israel. This exceptionality is supported by Ellen White’s comment that “in the absence of the usual magistrates, the people had sought to her [Deborah] for counsel and justice” (YRP 260).

Further, when it came time to mount a military campaign against Sisera and his army, rather than take command as most judges did, Deborah called on a warrior, Barak, to lead the troops. He was unwilling to assume the command unless she came along to support him at the battle. This she agreed to, but in a rebuke of his failure to carry out his role as a man, she told him that the glory for the victory would go to a woman (Jdg. 4:9).

Deborah’s role as judge and military escort was unusual, made necessary by circumstances, including the failure of men to accept their expected roles. Thus, the Deborah story shows both the general biblical ideal of male spiritual institutional leadership, as well as proof of its variability. Circumstances of national peril called for a response, which was then taken in light of the organizational and missional needs of God’s people, and the response which varied from the divine ideal then received divine blessing.

6. King David and the Moabite Restriction. The laws of purity and organization that God gave Israel could even be modified to allow a forbidden outsider to play the most powerful leadership roles in the land, as the reigns of David and Solomon, and the genealogy of Jesus demonstrate. Because the Moabites had seduced the Israelites into idolatry, God had commanded that a “Moabite shall not enter into the Assembly of the Lord; even unto the tenth generation shall none belonging to them enter into the assembly of the Lord for ever” (Deut. 23:3). This was relevant to David because his great-grandfather was Boaz, who married Ruth, the Moabite (Ruth 4:16-20), but had done so in defiance of a Mosaic prohibition that had been repeated by Joshua (Deut. 7:3; Jos. 23:12).

Under a strict application of the Levitical code, Boaz’s marriage to Ruth was illegitimate. She and her descendants should have been forbidden from playing any formal roles in the nation of Israel until ten generations had passed. This would have excluded David from being king. The book of Ruth can be seen as including an extended defense and legal argument as to why Ruth was really a Jewess, and no longer a Moabite. Her famous soliloquy, “where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay, your people will be my people, and your God my God” (Ruth 1:16), takes on a whole new significance when this larger context is understood.

Once one understands the truly spiritual nature of Jewish identity, all these arguments work. Obviously they worked in their historical context, as a majority of Israel and Judah accepted David as king. None of these “exceptions,” however, can be found in the law itself! They were all created by the circumstances of the story itself, as Israel’s legal and spiritual expositors and leaders wrestled with the meaning of God’s laws and the spirit behind them in a particular concrete context.

7. David, the Showbread, and Christ. David’s act in eating the showbread is one of the most famous examples of a divine ideal giving way to the larger spirit behind these laws. (1 Sam. 21:1-8). Fleeing from Saul, David in his haste to escape had left without sufficient provisions or weapons. Arriving in Nob, he asked Ahimelech the priest for bread to eat. Ahimelech said that the only available food was the showbread, which was reserved by the law for the priests (Lev. 24:5-9). Due to David’s pressing circumstances, however, Ahimelech was willing to allow David and his men to eat the bread, allowing the letter of the ritual law to give way before human needs of health and sustenance.

Strikingly, too, that is how Christ understood the story. Christ justifies both David’s acts as well as those of his disciples in the face of criticism from the Pharisees that his disciples did not keep the Sabbath properly because they plucked ears of corn to eat. David was justified, Christ says, in eating the showbread, in violation of an explicit divine rule, to preserve life and health. Christ himself ratifies human ability to adapt and modify divine rules that provide ecclesiastical order in pursuit of higher principles of the preservation of life, health, or well being of the community and its members.

8. The Jerusalem Council: Differences Over Divine Ideals. Circumcision was a vitally important act for every male Israelite. It was a sign of God’s everlasting covenant with Abraham, to be kept “for the generations to come”; in fact those who were not circumcised were said to have “broken the covenant” (Gen. 17:9-14). Circumcision was considered essential to the identity of Israel as God’s covenant people.

We do not believe that circumcision and ordination are the same kind of issues in all respects. Circumcision was an ethnic marker, instituted during the time of Abraham, that lost its central meaning when the borders of Israel became defined by that of spiritual Israel. Leadership and gender roles go back to Eden. But we believe that the Jerusalem council highlights three vitally important principles that should be taken into account whenever organizational guidelines of broad impact on the church, such as qualifications for ordination, are being applied or adapted by the church. These principles are:

First: An issue of church order and organization fracturing the unity of the church should be decided by a representative council of the church. Second: The decision, though taken collectively, may not require uniformity of action on the part of all, as the Jerusalem council allowed Jews and Gentiles to approach circumcision and ritual differently. Third: The decision should foster both the unity and mission of the church within the framework of biblical principle. They were not always united in the particulars of ecclesiastical practice. In Christ, however, they were able to live with these differences, and so should we.

9. Ideal and Variation in the Writings of Ellen White. Ellen White showed a distinct awareness of the variable nature of organizational ideals. She was supportive of church order and the need for pastoral ordination, but she was very clear that such organizational rules should not stand in the way of the mission of the church. In 1896 she wrote about an un-ordained worker and his mistake in not being willing to baptize when no ordained pastor was available:

t has been a great mistake that men go out, knowing they are children of God, like Brother Tay, [who] went to Pitcairn as a missionary to do work, [but] … did not feel at liberty to baptize because he had not been ordained. That is not any of God’s arrangements; it is man’s fixing. … If there is a minister in reach, all right, then they should seek for the ordained minister to do the baptizing, but when the Lord works with a man to bring out a soul here and there, and they know not when the opportunity will come that these precious souls can be baptized, why … he should baptize these souls” (MS 75, Nov. 12, 1896, pp. 1-2).

In this single quotation we have both the acknowledgment of the ideal (“they should seek for the ordained minister to do the baptizing”) and the variation (“he should baptize these souls.”) Ellen White’s clear overriding concern was for the mission of the church. Organizational guidelines have their place, but should give way when they impede mission.

She applied the principle of organizational variability to the question of women’s leadership in the medical work in her day: “In ancient times the Lord worked in wonderful way through consecrated women who unite in His work with men whom He had chosen to stand as His representatives. He used women to gain great and decisive victories. More than once in times of emergency, He brought them to the front and worked through them for the salvation of many lives. … A study of women’s work in connection with the cause of God in Old Testament times will teach us lessons that will enable us to meet emergencies in the work to-day.” Ellen White, Letter, May 7, 1911 (To Loma Linda, California)
Application and Conclusion

As the above examples show, God in His love and grace accommodates His divine ideal throughout Scripture and salvation history. Again, this reasoning does not apply to universal moral commands or truths. None of the examples set out above involved variations or deviations from God’s moral laws, whether it be the Ten Commandments or prohibitions against sexual immorality, such as adultery or homosexuality.

But God’s organizational ideals are somewhat different. They should not be lightly or cavalierly disregarded, but the Bible makes clear they can, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, be adapted to further the mission of God’s church. These type of standards are created to further God’s primary desires of the unity of His church and for His people to be focused on their divinely appointed role as instruments in God’s mission of seeking and saving the lost (Matt. 18:10-12; 28:18-20; Luke 19:10).

Some may interpret and apply these organizational ideals differently than others, but under biblical principles of mutual Christian liberty we should grant tolerance and forbearance to each other. (Gal. 2:3-5). Irwin Evans, editor of Ministry Magazine in 1931, wrote an editorial on the importance of Christian tolerance in the church that I believe speaks profoundly to our situation today:

“Controversies that have divided Christians into various sects have seldom been on vital elements of faith, essential to salvation, but on nonessentials, so far as salvation is concerned. Truth cannot be compromised, but nonessentials, which do not enter into our salvation directly, ought not to bring alienation between brethren. Here is a wide sphere for tolerance. Tolerance is not always found where we might naturally look for it. … All leaders in religious revivals, and promoters of the deeper spiritual life among the people, should possess this indispensable Christian grace. Yet how often do these seem to lack the spirit of tolerance. They not only assume that they have the correct interpretation of all Scriptural doctrines, but they feel constrained to condemn all who do not accept their teachings as special light from God. … Tolerance must certainly be one characteristic of the last church. Without it there must come breaking of fellowship. (Irwin H. Evans, “Tolerance,” Ministry Magazine, Oct. 1931, 5, 31).

In seeking to implement this godly tolerance, our practical proposal is as follows:

The Session affirms that men have a special responsibility to carry out the office of ordained minister, but where it would further church mission and unity, divisions can allow unions to authorize the ordination of women ministers, but no conference, mission or local church should be obliged to have women ministers serve within their territory or church.

This proposal does three things:

1. It continues a general practice of male ordained ministerial leadership, that allows of exceptions. This will protect Divisions and Unions that desire a traditional approach, and will not create a sense of cultural or social inferiority or superiority in relation to those Divisions that do or do not choose to ordain women. This rebuttable presumption is not found in Position No. 2, and thus makes our position unique.

2. It provides a biblical basis for allowing variation where divisions, unions, and conferences agree to ordain women. Thus, territories that are convinced and convicted of that need for a variance may obtain one. This separates us from Position No. 1.

3. It protects the rights of territories and churches that desire to preserve a traditional approach to ordination. It protects the religious freedom of those that may differ from the variance. Such freedom would be difficult, if not impossible, to obtain under the other two positions.

We pray for the wisdom of this council as it seeks to navigate safely through these challenging waters, knowing that we have an all wise, and all loving Pilot who is safeguarding the unity and faithfulness of His precious vessel in these last days.
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Re: 2014 Annual Council Examination of TOSC Recommendations
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2014, 03:00:18 PM »
Any agreement that allows deviation from Scripture and SOP - does what history shows happened in Bohemia that lead to it's being conquered by Rome.

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    The papal leaders, despairing of conquering by force, at last resorted to diplomacy. A compromise was entered into, that while professing to grant to the Bohemians freedom of conscience, really betrayed them into the power of Rome. The Bohemians had specified four points as the condition of peace with Rome: the free preaching of the Bible; the right of the whole church to both the bread and the wine in the communion, and the use of the mother tongue in divine worship; the exclusion of the clergy from all secular offices and authority; and, in cases of crime, the jurisdiction of the civil courts over clergy and laity alike. The papal authorities at last "agreed that the four articles of the Hussites should be accepted, but that the right of explaining them, that is, of determining their precise import, should belong to the council--in other words, to the pope and the emperor."-- Wylie, b. 3, ch. 18. On this basis a treaty was entered into, and Rome gained by dissimulation and fraud what she had failed to gain by conflict; for, placing her own interpretation upon the Hussite articles, as upon the Bible, she could pervert their meaning to suit her own purposes.  {GC 118.1} 
     A large class in Bohemia, seeing that it betrayed their liberties, could not consent to the compact. Dissensions and divisions arose, leading to strife and bloodshed among themselves. In this strife the noble Procopius fell, and the liberties of Bohemia perished.  {GC 118.2} 
     Sigismund, the betrayer of Huss and Jerome, now became king of Bohemia, and regardless of his oath to support the rights of the Bohemians, he proceeded to establish popery. But he had gained little by his subservience to Rome. For twenty years his life had been filled with labors and perils. His armies had been wasted and his treasuries drained by a long and fruitless struggle; and now, after reigning one year, he died, leaving his kingdom on the brink of civil war, and bequeathing to posterity a name branded with infamy.  {GC 118.3} 
     Tumults, strife, and bloodshed were protracted. Again foreign armies invaded Bohemia, and internal dissension
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continued to distract the nation. Those who remained faithful to the gospel were subjected to a bloody persecution.  {GC 118.4} 
     As their former brethren, entering into compact with Rome, imbibed her errors, those who adhered to the ancient faith had formed themselves into a distinct church, taking the name of "United Brethren." This act drew upon them maledictions from all classes. Yet their firmness was unshaken. Forced to find refuge in the woods and caves, they still assembled to read God's word and unite in His worship.  {GC 119.1} 
     Through messengers secretly sent out into different countries, they learned that here and there were "isolated confessors of the truth, a few in this city and a few in that, the object, like themselves, of persecution; and that amid the mountains of the Alps was an ancient church, resting on the foundations of Scripture, and protesting against the idolatrous corruptions of Rome."--Wylie, b. 3, ch. 19. This intelligence was received with great joy, and a correspondence was opened with the Waldensian Christians.  {GC 119.2} 
     Steadfast to the gospel, the Bohemians waited through the night of their persecution, in the darkest hour still turning their eyes toward the horizon like men who watch for the morning. "Their lot was cast in evil days, but . . . they remembered the words first uttered by Huss, and repeated by Jerome, that a century must revolve before the day should break. These were to the Taborites [Hussites] what the words of Joseph were to the tribes in the house of bondage: `I die, and God will surely visit you, and bring you out.'"-- Ibid., b. 3, ch. 19. "The closing period of the fifteenth century witnessed the slow but sure increase of the churches of the Brethren. Although far from being unmolested, they yet enjoyed comparative rest. At the commencement of the sixteenth century their churches numbered two hundred in Bohemia and Moravia."--Ezra Hall Gillett, Life and Times of John Huss, vol. 2, p. 570. "So goodly was the remnant which, escaping the destructive fury of fire and sword, was permitted to see the dawning of that day which Huss had foretold."--Wylie, b. 3, ch. 19.  {GC 119.3} 
 

Why would it be otherwise ?    More than that it would forfeit future divine protection.

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   On the way from Midian, Moses received a startling and terrible warning of the Lord's displeasure. An angel appeared to him in a threatening manner, as if he would immediately destroy him. No explanation was given; but Moses remembered that he had . . . neglected to perform the rite of circumcision upon their youngest son. . . . In his mission to Pharaoh, Moses was to be placed in a position of great peril; his life could be preserved only through the protection of holy angels. But while living in neglect of a known duty, he would not be secure; for he could not be shielded by the angels of God.  {CC 87.5} 
     In the time of trouble just before the coming of Christ, the righteous will be preserved through the ministration of heavenly angels; but there will be no security for the transgressor of God's law. Angels cannot then protect those who are disregarding one of the divine precepts.  {CC 87.6}     
Grateful for Psalms 32 and Titus 2:10 - The divinity of Christ is acknowledged in the unity of the children of God.  {11MR 266.2}

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Re: 2014 Annual Council Examination of TOSC Recommendations
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2014, 05:58:44 PM »
Amen! You know, Ed ... I still cannot get over the absurdity of the third option.
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Re: 2014 Annual Council Examination of TOSC Recommendations
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2014, 10:54:36 PM »
Motion #2 & #3. both violate Scripture.   Every salaried Church Official that violates Scripture should be fired.   
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Re: 2014 Annual Council Examination of TOSC Recommendations
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2015, 10:02:38 AM »

While I am in favor of study it seems that for those against WO to agree to a study committee on WO is to in a sense concede that this has not already been studied. Granted, there have been those who have gleaned even more insight from studying this again. I suppose to have the study shuts up those liberals who claim that this has not been studied and that we have simply followed patriarchal culture. It is ironic that now that this has been restudied and rehashed they wish to follow the swing to a matriarchal dominated culture.
The truth is, they know that this has already been studied they just do not like the results of the study and they do not like the Bible's answer to their proposals.  Just like the with the homosexual agenda they believe that it they hit this enough times eventually it will go through, kind of like ramming  at a brick wall with a battering ram.
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