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What do you need? We often mistake wants for needs, but truly our greatest need is to continually experience the converting, transforming grace of God and to abide in Christ. God desires to help us--so He lovingly shows us our need, and offers to give us His Spirit and character in the place of our sins. While He will not force us to choose Him, He draws upon our hearts to help us deeply sense that what He is offering is better than what we have been choosing or would choose for ourselves. Let us look to Christ and be given true sight, seeing His loveliness of character, our sinfulness, and our need of Him to abide in the heart and mind to make and keep it pure, imbued with all of the fruits of the Spirit without one missing so our fallen nature is kept crucified, and not allowed to contaminate our lives or the lives of others by even a thought!

"The manifestation of divine power that had given to the blind man both natural and spiritual sight had left the Pharisees in yet deeper darkness. Some of His hearers, feeling that Christ's words applied to them, inquired, 'Are we blind also?' Jesus answered, 'If ye were blind, ye should have no sin.' If God had made it impossible for you to see the truth, your ignorance would involve no guilt. "But now ye say, We see." You believe yourselves able to see, and reject the means through which alone you could receive sight. To all who realized their need, Christ came with infinite help. But the Pharisees would confess no need; they refused to come to Christ, and hence they were left in blindness,--a blindness for which they were themselves guilty. Jesus said, 'Your sin remaineth.'" {The Desire of Ages, page 475, paragraph 1}
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Excellent question and observation, Br Myers! Exactly.

I do appreciate your reasoning on this topic. I hope you won't mind if I add some thoughts of my own as a woman in her middle years who has been an SDA for all of her life. The comment I have frequently heard women make - and I think their point needs to be heard and acknowledged - is that it is not uncommon for a church to have inept, incompetent male candidates for the position of elder. And they ask, why should a person be given an office of church authority because they are of a particular gender when a competent, spiritually minded woman could do an excellent job as elder? And they do have a point. I have attended a church where there have been male elders who have never preached a sermon, given a Bible study, would be too shy to pray with someone. But the female elder preaches, keeps the church running smoothly, takes care of church business, visits the sick and prays with them, can give a Bible study. My personal thought about such situations is that the described situation is also a symptom of males not being trained up to serve the church in such a capacity. Having said this, it saddens my heart when there is a lack of godly male leadership in the church.

Hi Marelis, I'm not an advocate of WO, but would like to expand on what you're saying in a couple of directions.

In the first place, my impression is that both sides in the WO debate are driven primarily by policy or philosophy, rather than by truly seeking God's will.  As you say, excluding women while allowing unqualified men to serve doesn't make any sense, and can hardly be God's plan for the church.

I'd be in favor of an approach where we spend most of our effort humbling ourselves before the Lord and asking Him who He wishes to lead us.  Some of the people the Lord selects might be surprising to both liberals and conservatives.

This in turn leads to another observation, which is that the qualifications of God's end-time leaders are not necessarily the same as in a conventional church setting.  The Bible mentions sons and daughters prophesying (Joel 2:28), kings and priests who serve God day and night in His temple (Revelation 1:6, 5:10, 7:13-15), and a group of people who follow Christ wherever He goes (Revelation 14:1-5).

I'm not aware of any male / female angles on these types of leaders, and if a woman asked me how she could make the maximum use of her spiritual talents, my advice would be the same as what Ellen White said -- strive to be one of the 144,000 (RH 3/9/1905).

My favorite example of this sort of thing is the SOP quote below, that talks about the role of the 144,000 in the "closing work for the church".  It appears that these people will serve as divine agents in the fulfillment of Ezekiel 9, and I would assume that such individuals will be an equal mix of men and women.

When the Lord takes the reins of the church (TM 299), the people He uses may be different from the people we would select in a conventional church context.

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The true people of God, who have the spirit of the work of the Lord and the salvation of souls at heart, will ever view sin in its real, sinful character. They will always be on the side of faithful and plain dealing with sins which easily beset the people of God. Especially in the closing work for the church, in the sealing time of the one hundred and forty-four thousand who are to stand without fault before the throne of God, will they feel most deeply the wrongs of God's professed people. This is forcibly set forth by the prophet's illustration of the last work under the figure of the men each having a slaughter weapon in his hand. One man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side. "And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof."
{3T 266.2}

Who are standing in the counsel of God at this time? Is it those who virtually excuse wrongs among the professed people of God and who murmur in their hearts, if not openly, against those who would reprove sin? Is it those who take their stand against them and sympathize with those who commit wrong? No, indeed! Unless they repent, and leave the work of Satan in oppressing those who have the burden of the work and in holding up the hands of sinners in Zion, they will never receive the mark of God's sealing approval. They will fall in the general destruction of the wicked, represented by the work of the five men bearing slaughter weapons. Mark this point with care: Those who receive the pure mark of truth, wrought in them by the power of the Holy Ghost, represented by a mark by the man in linen, are those "that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done" in the church. Their love for purity and the honor and glory of God is such, and they have so clear a view of the exceeding sinfulness of sin, that they are represented as being in agony, even sighing and crying. Read the ninth chapter of Ezekiel.  {3T 267.1}
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The Desire of Ages / Re: The Desire of Ages--50--Among Snares
« Last post by JimB on January 20, 2019, 09:28:22 AM »
Christ hates the sin, but loves the sinner. This will be the spirit of all who follow Him. Christian love is slow to censure, quick to discern penitence, ready to forgive, to encourage, to set the wanderer in the path of holiness, and to stay his feet therein.

We can love the sinner without encouraging the habits of sin. Let's pray for discernment when it comes to this. I believe there are going to be many 11th hour workers and they will need our encouragement.   
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The Desire of Ages / Re: The Desire of Ages--50--Among Snares
« Last post by Richard Myers on January 20, 2019, 07:56:47 AM »

If we really want to know the will of God for our lives we must come to the study of His word with a humble, contrite spirit wanting not only to know the truth but also be willing to change our lifestyle and belief to conform the will of God. 

Amen dear brother! There is an important and interesting truth in the quote you shared. It gives support to the fact that your statement applies to those who are not converted yet, as well as those who are. Can the unconverted understand right from wrong? Yes.

 "God does not compel men to give up their unbelief. Before them are light and darkness, truth and error. It is for them to decide which they will accept. The human mind is endowed with power to discriminate between right and wrong. God designs that men shall not decide from impulse, but from weight of evidence, carefully comparing scripture with scripture. Had the Jews laid by their prejudice and compared written prophecy with the facts characterizing the life of Jesus, they would have perceived a beautiful harmony between the prophecies and their fulfillment in the life and ministry of the lowly Galilean."  

They were not converted, yet they were "endowed" with power to discriminate between right and wrong. This function of the carnal mind is called a conscience. When Adam sinned he then lost his holy flesh and had a fallen nature which was evil. This is our inheritance. But, he never lost his conscience, his ability to reason, nor his intelligence. Then what is a fallen nature? He was no longer holy. He was evil by nature and could do no good thing from the heart. All he did or thought was continually tainted by selfishness. This is a foundational truth understood by most of a Christianity. Yet, today there are those who will now argue against this truth. Genesis 3:15 is the everlasting covenant which promised Adam and us a new heart that could keep the law of God from the new heart filled with the Holy Spirit (written upon the heart). This is what Jesus meant when He told Nicodemus (a Laodicean) that he needed to be born again, for that which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit. Ye must be born again in order to do any good thing for the right reason (unselfish). The promise given within the hearing of Adam in the Garden was a conditional promise that he would be given a hatred for sin (and Eve's children, us) if he would give his whole heart to Christ. This is what it means to be converted.

Thank you Beacon for sharing this important truth. Many will be blessed as they read your post.

Pastor Sean was impressed with the same truth that was revealed to me.

"The perception and appreciation of truth, He said, depends less upon the mind than upon the heart. Truth must be received into the soul; it claims the homage of the will. If truth could be submitted to the reason alone, pride would be no hindrance in the way of its reception. But it is to be received through the work of grace in the heart; and its reception depends upon the renunciation of every sin that the Spirit of God reveals."

It is grace that saves us, grace that is allowed into the heart. The deception that surrounds what it means to be converted is more clearly revealed in today's reading.

If any man willeth to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it be of God, or whether I speak from Myself." John 7:16, 17, R. V. The question of these cavilers Jesus met, not by answering the cavil, but by opening up truth vital to the salvation of the soul. The perception and appreciation of truth, He said, depends less upon the mind than upon the heart. Truth must be received into the soul; it claims the homage of the will. If truth could be submitted to the reason alone, pride would be no hindrance in the way of its reception. But it is to be received through the work of grace in the heart; and its reception depends upon the renunciation of every sin that the Spirit of God reveals. Man's advantages for obtaining a knowledge of the truth, however great these may be, will prove of no benefit to him unless the heart is open to receive the truth, and there is a conscientious surrender of every habit and practice that is opposed to its principles. To those who thus yield themselves to God, having an honest desire to know and to do His will, the truth is revealed as the power of God for their salvation. These will be able to distinguish between him who speaks for God, and him who speaks merely from himself. The Pharisees had not put their will on the side of God's will. They were not seeking to know the truth, but to find some excuse for evading it; Christ showed that this was why they did not understand His teaching.


Does not the Bible tell us the path to heaven is steep and narrow and few will find it? That is not being taught in most churches today. So, what we read here is frightening to many in the church, therefore rejected. But, it is "truth vital to the salvation of the soul." What truth is so vital that we must understand? Our salvation "depends upon the renunciation of every sin that the Spirit of God reveals."  It is true that God does not cease working for us when we sin, but neither do we have Him in the heart. He stands at the door of the heart wanting in. He will not come into until we want Him, love Him, more that the truth we will not follow.

The Bible tells us "to Him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin" no matter how little. When the Spirit reveals a truth, then we are to walk in it. If we do not, then we have refused "the renunciation of every sin that the Spirit of God reveals." Some will read this and turn never more to walk with Jesus. Others will receive this truth and instead of walking away from Jesus will turn to Him. Let us be encouraged that Jesus has power and the desire to save us from ourselves. He loves us and has proved it over and over. Unconverted "men hate the sinner, while they love the sin. Christ hates the sin, but loves the sinner. This will be the spirit of all who follow Him. Christian love is slow to censure, quick to discern penitence, ready to forgive, to encourage, to set the wanderer in the path of holiness, and to stay his feet therein."

Jesus' love for us is again revealed in today's reading in how He dealt with a condemned sinner.

In His act of pardoning this woman and encouraging her to live a better life, the character of Jesus shines forth in the beauty of perfect righteousness. While He does not palliate sin, nor lessen the sense of guilt, He seeks not to condemn, but to save. The world had for this erring woman only contempt and scorn; but Jesus speaks words of comfort and hope. The Sinless One pities the weakness of the sinner, and reaches to her a helping hand. While the hypocritical Pharisees denounce, Jesus bids her, "Go, and sin no more."   


What was it that caused the woman's heart to go out to Jesus? It was grace. Sister Dorine expresses it beatifully:

"In astonishment she saw her accusers depart speechless and confounded; then those words of hope fell upon her ear, "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." Her heart was melted, and she cast herself at the feet of Jesus, sobbing out her grateful love, and with bitter tears confessing her sins."   

These are the most beautiful words for a sinner to hear. The result of Jesus' love for her is most precious. Some may have jumped up and run off to live life as usual but her heart melted and with tears of gratitude confessed her sins. Every time I read this story I mentally stand aside and gaze at this scene. This is what Jesus has done for me and each time I sin I see him as He is in this story and my heart is melted too. How can we let pride and self keep us from responding as did this dear woman to such love?

The road to heaven is steep and few will enter therein, but it is not because we cannot make it. Jesus has provided help at great expense. Our part is immeasurably small, Jesus' part is immeasurably large. It is His power that enables us to climb that steep narrow road to heaven. In the Words of Jesus "Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke [is] easy, and my burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30.

Amen! We testify that it is self that is the problem, but when fully surrendered to Christ, self is not allowed to ruin our lives. Satan's snares are of no effect even though we are surrounded by them. We are new creatures in Christ and can do all that He asks of us!
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The Desire of Ages / Re: The Desire of Ages--50--Among Snares
« Last post by Pastor Sean Brizendine on January 20, 2019, 07:03:46 AM »
Praise the Lord, Dorine, for how Jesus' extends such healing love to us, so we are pardoned and transformed by His grace!

As I contemplate what it takes for us to accept truth, I am keenly aware that it is heart work, of bringing our will into harmony with God's will and gladly trusting Him against the grain of our fallen nature. What would make us choose Him? By beholding the loveliness of Jesus we are brought to see a revelation of something much better than the meager existence we can eek out for self. We are brought to see a love that is infinite in the sacrifice the Father made for us on the cross in giving His Son to die for us, and the way that Jesus freely pardoned the woman caught in adultery is a powerful portrayal of how deeply Jesus wants to save us, not destroy and condemn. The grace of God has power to change the most hardened sinner into a saint on that simple principle that by beholding we become changed. Yielding all to Him, it becomes a joy to let Him fill me with all of the fruits of the Spirit so that not one is missing, and to go forth to reach other souls who need the love of Christ to be revealed to them in personal ministry!

"'My teaching is not Mine,' said Jesus, 'but His that sent Me. If any man willeth to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it be of God, or whether I speak from Myself.' John 7:16, 17, R. V. The question of these cavilers Jesus met, not by answering the cavil, but by opening up truth vital to the salvation of the soul. The perception and appreciation of truth, He said, depends less upon the mind than upon the heart. Truth must be received into the soul; it claims the homage of the will. If truth could be submitted to the reason alone, pride would be no hindrance in the way of its reception. But it is to be received through the work of grace in the heart; and its reception depends upon the renunciation of every sin that the Spirit of God reveals. Man's advantages for obtaining a knowledge of the truth, however great these may be, will prove of no benefit to him unless the heart is open to receive the truth, and there is a conscientious surrender of every habit and practice that is opposed to its principles. To those who thus yield themselves to God, having an honest desire to know and to do His will, the truth is revealed as the power of God for their salvation. These will be able to distinguish between him who speaks for God, and him who speaks merely from himself. The Pharisees had not put their will on the side of God's will. They were not seeking to know the truth, but to find some excuse for evading it; Christ showed that this was why they did not understand His teaching." {The Desire of Ages, page 455, paragraph 3}   

Let us not try to find ways to get around the truth, but let us remember that in our fallen condition we do not naturally know what is best for us, and we are doing the greatest injustice and injury to our own souls when we think and act contrary to the will of God. As we yield to God's will which is high, noble, and elevating, we can rejoice that He desires to give us the most blessed experience of becoming like Him in mind and character, to go forth to give the final message of love to a world soon to perish--a message that cannot be given without our characters being transformed by His matchless love!
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The Desire of Ages / Re: The Desire of Ages--50--Among Snares
« Last post by Dorine on January 20, 2019, 06:17:27 AM »
"The woman had stood before Jesus, cowering with fear. His words, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone," had come to her as a death sentence. She dared not lift her eyes to the Saviour's face, but silently awaited her doom. In astonishment she saw her accusers depart speechless and confounded; then those words of hope fell upon her ear, "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." Her heart was melted, and she cast herself at the feet of Jesus, sobbing out her grateful love, and with bitter tears confessing her sins."   

These are the most beautiful words for a sinner to hear. The result of Jesus' love for her is most precious. Some may have jumped up and run off to live life as usual but her heart melted and with tears of gratitude confessed her sins. Every time I read this story I mentally stand aside and gaze at this scene.

This is what Jesus has done for me and each time I sin I see him as He is in this story and my heart is melted too. How can we let pride and self keep us from responding as did this dear woman to such love?
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The Desire of Ages / Re: The Desire of Ages--50--Among Snares
« Last post by Beacon on January 20, 2019, 06:02:22 AM »

 "God does not compel men to give up their unbelief. Before them are light and darkness, truth and error. It is for them to decide which they will accept. The human mind is endowed with power to discriminate between right and wrong. God designs that men shall not decide from impulse, but from weight of evidence, carefully comparing scripture with scripture. Had the Jews laid by their prejudice and compared written prophecy with the facts characterizing the life of Jesus, they would have perceived a beautiful harmony between the prophecies and their fulfillment in the life and ministry of the lowly Galilean."  

If we really want to know the will of God for our lives we must come to the study of His word with a humble, contrite spirit wanting not only to know the truth but also be willing to change our lifestyle and belief to conform the will of God. The leaders of Israel were convinced that Jesus was really the Messiah but they were not willing to surrender their lives to His leadership because of the selfish personal cost involved. This is as true today for all of us as it was for them. [/u]


     "Many are deceived today in the same way as were the Jews. Religious teachers read the Bible in the light of their own understanding and traditions; and the people do not search the Scriptures for themselves, and judge for themselves as to what is truth; but they yield up their judgment, and commit their souls to their leaders. The preaching and teaching of His word is one of the means that God has ordained for diffusing light; but we must bring every man's teaching to the test of Scripture. Whoever will prayerfully study the Bible, desiring to know the truth, that he may obey it, will receive divine enlightenment. He will understand the Scriptures. "If any man willeth to do His will, he shall know of the teaching." John 7:17, R. V. 
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Sunday   January 20
In the Heavenly Throne Room

Starting in Revelation 4:1, Jesus invites John to come up to heaven to be shown a panoramic survey of history from his time until Christ’s return.

 4:1   After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter. 
 4:2   And immediately I was in the spirit; and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne. 
 4:3   And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and [there was] a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. 
 4:4   And round about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. 
 4:5   And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. 
 4:6   And before the throne [there was] a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind. 
 4:7   And the first beast [was] like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast [was] like a flying eagle. 
 4:8   And the four beasts had each of them six wings about [him]; and [they were] full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. 

 1:26   And above the firmament that [was] over their heads [was] the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne [was] the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. 
 1:27   And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 
 1:28   As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so [was] the appearance of the brightness round about. This [was] the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw [it], I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake. 

 5:11   And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 
 5:12   Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 
 5:13   And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, [be] unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 
 5:14   And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four [and] twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. 


Revelation 4:1–8, Ezekiel 1:26–28, and Revelation 5:11–14 describe heaven’s throne room. What do these verses teach us about the nature of the heavenly throne room?

The apostle looked through the open door into the heavenly temple and at the throne of God. The throne symbolizes God’s rule and governing authority over creation, while the rainbow around the throne signifies God’s faithfulness to His promises (Gen. 9:13–16; Isa. 54:9, 10). However, Satan, who usurped the dominion of this earth and is God’s adversary, has disputed divine authority. The central issue in the great controversy between God and Satan is about who has the right to rule.

Better said, is that Satan has made charges that God is unfair. He has lied about God's character and His government. It is up to us to understand the issue involved. What these charges are is the central issue involved in the great controversy between Christ and Satan. If we understand the issue, we are better able to understand the plan of salvation and the ultimate result of allowing Satan and sin to remain on this Earth for 6,000 years.

God's character has been maligned. God in His infinite wisdom has allowed this world and the entire universe to witness the result of Satan's rebellion and the cure for sin. Why? Because in order to eliminate the chance of sin every coming back into the universe, all of His creatures must see His character and the character of him who brought sin and suffering into being.


The purpose of the heavenly council that John saw gathered in the heavenly throne room was to affirm God’s rightful rule over the universe (Rev. 4:1–8, Rev. 5:11–14).

Read Revelation 4:8–11 and Revelation 5:9–14.

 4:8   And the four beasts had each of them six wings about [him]; and [they were] full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. 
 4:9   And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 
 4:10   The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 
 4:11   Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. 

 5:9   And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 
 5:10   And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. 
 5:11   And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 
 5:12   Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 
 5:13   And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, [be] unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 
 5:14   And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four [and] twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. 


What can you learn about true worship in these passages? In chapter 4, why is the Lord God worthy of being worshiped, and, in Revelation 5:9–14, why is the Lamb worthy?

Revelation 4 gives a general description of the throne room in the heavenly temple and of the worship that repeatedly takes place there. While the worship in chapter 4 praises God’s creative power, chapter 5 celebrates the redemption provided by the slain Lamb. These chapters show that true worship recounts and celebrates God’s mighty acts of Creation and Redemption.

God, who created the world in six days, has the power and ability also to restore the world to its original condition and to turn it into the eternal home for His people, all of which He has promised to do.

But, does God have the power to restore man to His original character? If so, why do we not see this in the church today? Or do we? Jesus is calling the church to repentance? What does this say about His power to restore character in man to its holiness at creation? Here is a statement found in Ministry of Healing: "Our Lord Jesus Christ came to this world as the unwearied servant of man’s necessity. He “took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses,” that He might minister to every need of humanity. Matthew 8:17. The burden of disease and wretchedness and sin He came to remove. It was His mission to bring to men complete restoration; He came to give them health and peace and perfection of character." Pg 17.

Unless we begin to not only teach correctly the gospel of grace, but to live it, the world will not see the truth  in the clear light that God has designed. Now as in the days of Israel, the world sees hypocrisy in the church. As we preach "here are they that keep the commandments of God" we are not keeping God's commands. Instead, as the author of our lesson has stated, we are not walking in the light of God's law, but are in need of repentance. Sadly, many pastors do not believe conversion brings about a new life in Christ Jesus. They do not teach nor believe that when conversion takes place the Holy Spirit brings into the life all of the fruits of the Spirit, not one is missing. Thus we have the blind leading the blind and the result is that it is rare to find one who has truly been born again of the Spirit. Most are being buried alive when baptized.


Think about what the gospel teaches: the One who created not just us and our world, but the entire cosmos, also was the “Lamb who was slain” (Rev. 5:12, NKJV) for us. What amazing hope does this teaching present amid a world full of pain and turmoil?

What does the gospel teach?  Many are confused  because Christianity has misrepresented God and the gospel of grace.  In order for the world to really appreciate the goodness of God, we need to know why God allows bad things to happen to "good" people. This is the issue at hand. We believe and know that God is love. We also know that God is omnipotent, all powerful. Then, why does He not stop the horrible things happening to little children? Satan's charges against God are supported when ever professing Christians sin. Why is this? And, why does God allow bad things to happen to "good" people? A world full of pain, when God is omnipotent and could stop it needs an answer. And, the Seventh-day Adventist Church has been given that answer. Then let us not keep it a secret. Many don't understand, therefore they turn away from God who is revealed in the Bible.

God is just who He says He is. He is worthy to be worshiped. Then, we ought to explain to a world in pain why Satan's charges are lies, and why God allows time to continue while the pain continues. What is God doing in the "throne room" that allows the suffering to continue?

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Sabbath Afternoon

Read for This Week’s Study: Revelation 4, Ezek. 1:5–14, Revelation 5, Eph. 1:20–23, Heb. 10:12, Acts 2:32–36.

Memory Text: “And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.” Revelation 5:5

Last week, we looked at Christ’s messages to His people on earth. Now John’s vision shifts from earth to heaven and focuses on the “things which must be hereafter” (Rev. 4:1)— the future.

The vision of chapters 4 and 5 takes place in heaven’s throne room. The scene of chapters 4 and 5 symbolically portrays God’s control of history and of the plan of salvation. Before the future is revealed, however, we are shown the centrality of Christ’s high-priestly ministry in heaven to His sovereignty over the affairs of the earth and to His redemption of the human race. In such a way, chapters 4 and 5 provide Heaven’s perspective on the meaning of future events recorded in the rest of the book.

One also may notice that while the messages to the seven churches were written in somewhat straightforward language, from now on the book employs even more symbolic language that is not always easy to interpret. This language is taken from the history of God’s people, as recorded in the Old Testament. A correct interpretation of Revelation requires a proper understanding of its symbolic language in light of the Old Testament.

Amen. And we might add that it is impossible to rightly interpret portions of the Book without an understanding of world history since we will find prophesies that involve what has happened as well as what will happen to not only churches, but nations and cities. But, the Bible is the source for interpretation of symbols being used. An understanding of the Hebrew Sanctuary and its services is necessary for we will often find it being used in the Book of Revelation. Lastly, as we have mentioned previously, the Book of Daniel is closely aligned with the Book of Revelation. It is now an "unsealed" Book that gives much light on the writings in the Book of Revelation.


* Study this week’s lesson to prepare for Sabbath, January 26.
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The Desire of Ages / Re: The Desire of Ages--49--At the Feast of Tabernacles
« Last post by Richard Myers on January 19, 2019, 07:38:34 AM »
Amen, amen, and amen!!  The things of this world do not bring happiness, love, joy, or peace. Many are exhausted from trying to do that which will in the end prove to be a failure. But, Jesus offers us love, joy, and peace not only in this world, but in a world to come where there is no illness, tears, or death. Imagine a life with Jesus that never ends!!

Jesus is today in the heavenly sanctuary attempting to put and end to sin, suffering, and death. And, He is not only judging those who profess to serve Him, He is preparing (cleansing) a people so He can come and get us. "And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I [am] the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes...Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you." Some do not believe this because they have never drunk from the fountain this clean water. In today's reading we better understand what this clean water is. As Pastor Sean, Beacon, and Dorine have so seen, it is the "living water" that Christ offers to all who thirst. It is that same water that the woman at the well drank of that caused her to leave her water pot behind so that she could share that living water with her friends. It is the well of water that will spring up in all who will learn of Jesus and give to Him the whole heart. And, with the water comes everlasting life. What an offer Jesus makes for all who will come unto Him.





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