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Avalee Lohman

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« on: January 27, 2000, 03:20:00 AM »
John writes, "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come, and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of water" [Rev. 14:6-11, 12-14].


The Watchman, October 10, 1905, paragraph 1
Article Title: The Law of God the Standard in the Judgment
The first angel of Revelation 14 calls upon men to "fear God and give glory to him," and to worship him as the Creator of the heavens and the earth. In order to do this, they must obey his law. The wise man says, "Fear God, and keep his commandments; for this is the whole duty of man." Eccl. 12:13. Without obedience to his commandments, no worship can be pleasing to God; for "this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments." "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination." I John 5:3; Prov. 28:9.
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I believe to give glory to God is believing He is the one and only God, our Creator, the Creator of all things. In the world we live in we are surrounded by people who do not believe in God as the one and only Creator of all things. They think we have evolved from one thing or another. There are those who do not think you need to follow the Ten Commandments...they think they were done away with at the cross...we can glorify God by obeying His Commandments out of love to Him who made us and gives us everything.

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2000, 07:37:00 AM »
  Interesting Topic, Richard. I was thinking of posting it myself.

 TM93  "Therefore God gave to His servants a testimony that presented the truth as it is in Jesus, which is the THIRD ANGEL's MESSAGE, in clear , distinct lines."

2SM114 "This is our message, the very message that the three angels flyinbg in the midst of heaven aer proclaimingThe work to be done NOW is that of sounding this last message of mercy to a fallen world. A new life is coming from heaven and taking possession of all God's people. But division will come in the church. Two parties will be developed. The wheat and tares grow up together for the harvest.

  The work will grow deeper and become more earnest to the very close of time. All who are laborers together with God will contend more earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints. They will not be turned from the present message, which is ALREADY lightening the earth with its glory."

MH37  "We are to be distinguished from the world because God has placed His seal upon us, because He manifests in us His own character of love. Our Redeemer covers us with His righteousness."

COL419 " Into the hearts of all who are united to God by faith, the golden oil of love flows freely, to shine out again in good works, in real, heartfelt service for God...THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE WORLD NEEDS SO MUCH as the manifestation through humanity of the Saviour's love. All heaven is waiting for channels through which can be poured the holy oil to be a jpy and blessing to human hearts..The indwelling of the Spirit will be shown by the outflowing of heavenly love."

AA559  "There may be marked defects in the character of an individual, yet when he becomes a true disciple of Christ, the power of divine grace transforms and sanctifies him."

MS16,1890 "To give glory to God, is to reveal His character in our own, and thus make Him known. And in whatever way we make known the Father of the Son, we glorify God."

  Christ's imparted righteousness shines upon us, MB 77 "...but the light of His love shines upon us, and we are to REFLECT its brightness."

(EMPHASIS MINE)

   Keep the faith, and keep looking up!@!
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Keep "the" Faith,  Brother Laurie

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2000, 10:28:00 AM »
Hi all,
             one choice
The need to worship something is inherited. As babes, First our parents.. A school teacher, even a favorite toy... as adults we make heros out of movie stars, sports figures, worship our homes, cars fashion, music, our eyes are on everything in this world that takes our fancy and we worship it. This is lifting up the created one that coveted the throne of God. For he also wants to be worshiped. Lucifer promises we can have all the above and have him too. He says we can have everything and love him too. That is very appealing. We can have a king ruling in our heart and our selfishness together. Hey! Go for it! The road is very easy. You don't serve for the prize, you serve out of love, self love. The prize?....
             
          Another choice
Then God appears in our life. Wow!, He askes us to worship Him and give up the world, give up the 'good life' of the other King and our heros of this world. He wants nothing to come between us and Him. He admits He is Jealous of other things we love more than Him. What we have, He says, belongs to Him and we only borrow them for awhile, even our cherished children. He wants us to follow His leading, give up our own selfish ways and die, yes, die, every single day to self, and only live for Him. The road is very narrow and sometimes very hard where He leads, but His love will make it easy, for His burden is light and we know He is able to carry us through. He tells us that he walked the road before us and will take our hand and lead us through the perilous terrain but the journey will be worth it, however we must not trust our selves to make it through this journey, we must put our trust in Him. We know He is worthy of our worship because when we were bound to the other king in our life, by His death, He made a way of escape. You don't serve for the prize, you serve out of Love, God's love, in you. The Prize...

'The essence of the message' we are giving to the world is "choose you this day"  Choose where your 'love is' choose where your loyalty is, choose the prize you want with all your heart, and you will get it.

Fear, is Love, reverence and awe.

Glory, is how we represent God in our life. To whom is all our thanksgiving directed? To God our loving Creator God?  He shines on us and we are to reflect this light to others.

Amen Avalee
Amen Laurie
God bless
charlene


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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2000, 04:30:00 PM »
Brother Laurie, Sister Avalee, Sister Charlene, amen, amen, and amen! It will not be hard for all who visit with us to know they either have found a home or have come to the  wrong place. It really is not that hard to understand if we want to.  I know that you all are rejoincing as we are here! Can you see it now?  A whole church that believes the truth!!  Come Lord Jesus! Grant us grace to live the truth this one day.

In His love and grace,   Richard

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2000, 04:51:00 PM »
   One doesn't have to go far on this BB to discover the truth. I am so blessed by this forum, and EDIFIED by you all. Seems so strange not having to go on defense!!

  I thought I would add a few other excerpts:

My Life Today "p.46 "When the Spirit of God takes possession of the heart, it transforms the life....No one sees the hand that lifts the burden or beholds the light descend from the courts above. Then that power which no human eye can see, creates a new being in the image of God."

  Isn't that beautiful?

Amazing Grace,p.203 "Christ imparted to them (the disciples) through the Spirit His own sanctification. He embued them with His power....Henceforth Christ would live through their faculties, and speak through their words....They must cherish His principles and be controlled by His Spirit."

  Oh my Father , my Father!
Thank You for the wonderful and precious promises you have given to us -- your followers. Father, grant us the privilege of one day seeing you face-to-face. And Lord keep us faithful, that we can walk in the steps of the Master. In the precious Name of Jesus, our Saviour and Lord, and for His sake. Amen, and Amen!

  This is my prayer for everyone who is online in this forum. And thank you Richard, Avalee and Charlene for your precious input.

  Laurie

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2000, 04:55:00 AM »
Amen, Brother Laurie!   "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."   Romans 8:14.

Richard

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2000, 09:52:00 AM »
"Fear God and give glory to Him." What does it mean to fear God and give glory to Him? What is the essence of the message we have been given to give to the world that is soon to perish? What makes the message so powerful that it would be the last warning message to come to a dying world?

In His love and grace, Richard

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2000, 05:58:00 AM »
The essence of the third angel’s message is justification by faith. We are not to think highly of popes and prelates or any power that exalts itself.  For a comprehensive survey of Ellen G. White’s position on this, see, “The Third Angel's Message Illustrated by its Application to Seventh-day Adventists.” It can be found at my web site.

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2000, 11:32:00 AM »
"...Fear God, and give glory to him: for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" (Rev. 14:7).

The expression "Fear God" does not mean to be afraid of Him. God does not want us to serve Him out of fear, but, rather, out of love that emanates from an intelligent understanding of the love God has for us. The term means to give Him the PROPER REVERENCE He is due because He is God, and "the hour of His judgment is come."

On October 30, 1844 Christ moved from the Holy to the Most Holy Place in the Heavenly Sanctuary to begin a work of judgment (Dan. 8:14). This judgment began with the house of God (1 Peter 4:17) as the lives of all who profess to be followers of Christ are investigated to determine their fitness for Heaven.

"...And worship Him that made Heaven and earth...." The angel makes it crystal clear, in no uncertain terms, as to whom one is to worship. Of all the "gods" that are worshipped in this world, there is ONLY ONE who made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and the dry land. And that is the Eternal Creator who is the True and the Living God, and, besides Him, there is no other.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2000, 03:46:00 PM »
Why is everyone talking about the first angel’s message in a thread on the third angel’s message?

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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2000, 10:44:00 AM »
This is sort of a late response, but let us look briefly at the Third Angel's Message of Revelation 14 for a moment.

"And the third angel followed them saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb" (Rev. 14:9, 10).

"If any man worship the beast...."

"This first beast with seven heads and ten horns is probably the whole company of infidels and, enemies, and persecutors of the people of God, from the beginning to the end of the world. The seven heads are seven kings, that is, seven principal kingdoms or empires which have exercised, or shall exercise, tyrannical power over the people of God....The ten horns may be understood of (as) ten lesser persecutors" (SDA Bible Student's Source Book, vol. 9, p. 112).

"...and his image...."

"An image to the first beast would be an organization functioning on much the same principles as that beast's organization. Among the principles by which the first beast operated was the use of the secular arm to support religious institutions. In imitation the second beast will repudiate its principles of freedom. The church will prevail upon the state to enforce its dogmas. State and church will unite, and the result will be the loss of religious liberty and the persecution of dissenting minorities" (SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 7, pp. 821, 822).

"...and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand...."

"This mark being in the hand or in the forehead may indicate that not only one's labor (the hand) but also one's belief is affected" (Ibid. p. 822).

"The same shall drink of the wine...."

The wrath of God is mentioned here as being poured out "without mixture." Heretofore, God's wrath has been mixed with mercy. This time the wrath of God will be poured out unmixed with mercy. Some have come to understand this as being the time of the seven last plagues of Revelation 16 because of what is written in Revelation 15:1 which reads: "And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God."

"...and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone...."

"The seven last plagues fall upon the worshipers of the beast and his image (Rev. 16:2). In addition, these devotees of the beast rise in the second resurrection and receive their punishment (ch. 20:5, 11-15)....In both there will be torment. The first will end in death when Jesus appears from heaven (see on ch. 19:19-21), the second in eternal death" (see on ch. 20:14).

"...in the presence of the Lamb."

"Both the plagues and the destruction of the wicked after the millennium will take place upon this earth. However, in the latter case the camp of the saints will be upon the earth. Christ will be with His people, and doubtless many angels will be there" (Ibid. pp. 831, 832).

M.A.    

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2000, 07:03:00 AM »
I have a little something which I will post here, as it could be very pertinent to how we give the three angel's message to the world.  I am calling it:

SDA Definition Of Applied Theology

Yesterday, I had a "vision" while at work.  A man came to my door and asked:

"Does Christ live here?"

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2000, 10:29:00 AM »
Brother Eugene, when discussing the third angel's message it becomes necessary to cleary understand the first two, for they are bound up together. Many times we forget about the first part and rush to the last. We are to give the messages in their order. I think this is what Brother David may be gettng at.

"The first and second angels' messages are bound up with the third angel's message."

"There is a delay in the coming of the Bridegroom in order that all may have an opportunity to hear the last message of mercy to a fallen world. The first and second angels' messages are all united and complete in the third..."  16MR PG- 269

"The third angel's message, embracing the messages of the first and second angels, is the message for this time. We are to raise aloft the banner on which is inscribed,
"The commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."    Counsels on Health-PG- 357

"The third angel's message, embracing the messages of the first and second angels, is the message for this time. We are to raise aloft the banner on which is inscribed: "The
commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." The world is soon to meet the great Lawgiver over His broken law. This is not the time to put out of sight the great issues before us. God calls upon His people to magnify the law and make it honorable."   8T-PG- 197

In His love and grace,   Richard

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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2000, 02:07:00 PM »
To very briefly add to what has been said, to "magnify" something in this case means to bring it out, enlarge it, and/or make it clearer. Therefore, we magnify God's Law in our lives by LIVING IT OUT in our everyday living. It becomes the Governing Principle in all that we do, in all that we say, where we go, and even what we think. God's Law will permeate every department of our lives causing the Christlikeness that results to shine forth from within us. This is how the Law is made honorable. We honor the Law when Christ is uplifted and we order our lives after His Divine Likeness.

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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2000, 05:15:00 AM »
Amen, Brother Crawford!  

"Fear God and give glory to Him...." Giving glory to God is to manifest His character in our lives. This can only be done while we are abiding in Him. The moment we take our eyes off of Jesus, self takes over and we deny our Saviour by our selfishness. "Abide in me and I in you...." then the fruit of the Spirit is seen in the life, then His character is manifest in sinful flesh, then we are overcoming as He overcame and have the right to sit with Him on His throne as He has promised.  Do we earn  salvation? No, for salvation is by grace. No amount of "abiding" can change the fact that all have sinned and deserve death and no amount of "abiding" can change our flesh and make it holy. We need the abiding presence of  Christ continually that we might reflect His glory. If we come to Him and ask Him to come in, He will give us this precious experience of giving glory to Him. He does not wait for us to come to Him.....He is knocking on the door today.   Won't you let Him in?

In His love and grace,      Richard

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2001, 02:09:00 AM »
It is not possible to proclaim the third angel's message without preaching the first. The third embraces the message of the righteousness which of God by faith which is held by the first angel "having the everlasting gospel." Rev.14:6.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2001, 05:53:00 AM »
Precisely!  :)   Many are intent on getting the messages out of order and forgetting to begin with the gospel. A sure way to close the doors that could have been opened to receive the love of Jesus, then the correct understanding of Babylon and the mark of the beast.

Let us seek wisdom before we run ahead of the Lord. God has given great light in every area of life. We need not err if we will wait upon the Lord.  :)

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2001, 10:44:00 AM »
I believe you are right, Picard. I want to share a quotation from the SOP which support your words:

"Many who embraced the third message had not had an experience in the two former messages. Satan understood this, and his evil eye was upon them to overthrow them; but the third angel was pointing them to the most holy place, and those who had had an experience in the past messages were pointing them the way to the heavenly sanctuary. Many saw the perfect chain of truth in the angels' messages, and gladly received them IN THEIR ORDER, and followed Jesus by faith into the heavenly sanctuary. These messages were represented to me as an anchor to the people of God. Those who UNDERSTAND and RECEIVE them will be kept from being swept away by the many delusions of Satan" (EW 256).

The way into the sanctuary doesn't begin with the Sabbath and the 10 commandments. We have to begin in the other end of the tabernacle. Our walk must start at the foot of the cross. That's the place where healing begins. It will be good if we first get to know Jesus as our friend, brother and saviour. Then, after having "our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water" (Heb 10:22), we may enter into the sanctuary to be Gods living temples.
There, Gods people give him glory. By their character they will show the world how God is. It is a wonderful thought that God, after he has justified us, wants us to justify Him. It is not only men who need to be justified. God also needs to be justified. His reputation is not the best one. And the wine of Babylon is one of the reasons why. False messages about God always tend to stain his character in more or less degree. Therefore our most important work as a church, is to cleanse God's reputation (e.g. the doctrine of Hell). This we cannot effectively do if he not cleanses us first. I believe that this is one of the main reasons why we have to start with the first angel's message and not the 2nd or 3rd.

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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2001, 12:34:00 PM »
Richard and Allan, I praise the Lord with all my heart. We are speaking the same language. Its been a long journey! But at last I am meeting and studying with a nucleous of people who seem to have a "common faith," the faith which works by love. I am totally amazed. I have been on other forums lately and have talked to many adventists in the past twenty years but never have I met a group of people the like of which I have met here on this forum. Its so refreshing! I look forward to the outpouring of the Spirit in large measure! There is a glorious future ahead of us as a people. God's love and mercy are to be revealed in and through His people in full and final display. The divine fullness will flow through the consecrated human agent, to be given forth to others! See T.M.18 and C.O.L. 419.

ITS SO GOOD TO BE HERE!   :)  

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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2001, 12:48:00 PM »
Isn't it great Laval. Once you've been here, the rest of the forums just seem to fade away. I still am on them, but this is where I come for fellowship.

Happy you're here too!!!


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