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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2008, 09:03:55 AM »
Here is some information on alzheimer's if one is interested in how widespread the disease is and much it costs society.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2008, 09:50:16 AM »
15 years ago, I did not find one who would say that Alzheimer's was connected to Mad Cow or Scrapie
Disease. Today, we are seeing research findings that are indicating a relationship. God has blessed His people with light in advance of what science has discovered.

      Association between Deposition of Beta-Amyloid and Pathological Prion Protein in Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
Debatin, L. ;    Streffer, J. ;    Geissen, M. ;    Matschke, J. ;    Aguzzi, A. ;    Glatzel, M.
Neurodegenerative Dis (DOI:10.1159/000121389)
Published Online: March 18, 2008    


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Association between Deposition of Beta-Amyloid and Pathological Prion Protein in Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
Laura Debatina, Johannes Strefferb, Markus Geissenc, Jakob Matschkec, Adriano Aguzzia, Markus Glatzela, c

aInstitute of Neuropathology, and
bDivision of Psychiatry Research, University Hospital Zurich, Zurich, Switzerland;
cInstitute of Neuropathology, University Medical Center Hamburg-Eppendorf, Hamburg, Germany

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Neurodegenerative Dis (DOI: 10.1159/000121389)

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    * Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
    * Alzheimer's disease
    * Deposition of beta-amyloid
    * Prion protein

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Background: Alzheimer's disease (AD) and prion diseases such as sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (sCJD) share common features concerning their molecular pathogenesis and neuropathological presentation and the coexistence of AD and CJD in patients suggest an association between the deposition of the proteolytically processed form of the amyloid precursor protein, beta-amyloid (Abeta), which deposits in AD, and the abnormal form of the prion protein, PrPSc, which deposits in sCJD. Methods: We have characterized sCJD patients (n = 14), AD patients (n = 5) and nondemented controls (n = 5) with respect to the deposition of PrPSc and Abeta morphologically, biochemically and genetically and correlated these findings to clinical data. Results: sCJD-diseased individuals with abundant deposits of Abeta present with a specific clinicopathological profile, defined by higher age at disease onset, long disease duration, a genetic profile and only minimal amounts of PrPSc in the cerebellum. Conclusion: The co-occurrence of pathological changes typical for sCJD and AD in combination with the inverse association between accumulation of Abeta and PrPSc in a subgroup of sCJD patients is indicative of common pathways involved in the generation or clearance of Abeta and PrPSc in a subgroup of sCJD patients.


What has been seen? Look at the conclusion. I have been pointing to the amyloid plaques that are seen in Alzheimer's brains and the deposition of the same type of material in Scrapie and now in some "mad cows". This study has revealed that the  Abeta (amyloid plaque), and the PrPSc (prion protien) appear to share a common route of infection. Science is catching up with the light we have been given. Alzheimers is not  caused by aluminum. And, sporadic CJD does not just happen. There is nothing in this study to suggest that mad cows or mad sheep cause either sCJD or Alzheimer's, but we are getting very close to knowing through science that this is the case. We know that mad cows infect humans and cause vCJD. We now know that there is a connection between Alzheimer's and sCJD. But, the meat and dairy industry does not want you to know that both Alzheimer's and sCJD are being transmitted to humans via infected animals, both sheep and cows (and probably other animals that may be carriers). Pigs and chickens are fed material that comes from downer cows that cannot be fed to cows and sheep.

It is not a stretch to understand that sporadic CJD is an infection with a cause. What cause? The same as variant CJD, infected meat. When this is understood, the study we have just been reviewing makes it clear that if sCJD is from infected meat, then since both sCJD and Alzheimer's share a "common pathway" for the development of both the amyloid plaque and the prions, we would then have our connection between mad cows or mad sheep and Alzheimer's.

How long before the evidence is clear? I think it already is. The new varieties, strains, of Mad Cow that we are seeing in Europe and the US which produce the amyloid plaques and the fact that these amyloid plaques have been seen in Scrapie sheep is enough evidence for those who are not biased to say there is reason to believe there is a connection. In fact what we will probably find is that Alzheimer's is in fact Scrapie or Mad Cow Disease in humans. Yes, there are different manifestations of the infection, but the cause is the same, infected meat in which cooking does not inhibit the transmission of the disease.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2008, 11:16:00 AM »
Incredible information. Everything we have seen relative to this has been leading up to these findings.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2008, 06:06:49 PM »
This is a fatal disease. No cure. And, do not listen to the "experts" say again that they do not sell that part of the animal that transmits Mad Cow Disease. It is very probable that other than specified risk material carries the infected prions. And, this may include milk. There is no safety in eating other than the original diet given to man. A plant based diet free from all animal products. This is the healthiest as well as the safest.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2008, 06:08:18 PM »
I have a request of our readers. If you know of any other Seventh-day Adventists or even non SDAs that are discussing this or ever have, please let me know. Thank you.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2008, 03:04:36 AM »
Using various key search words, I gathered up some info and sent it to you. It appears there are those in the field who have been looking into this as far back as 1987.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2008, 01:12:57 PM »
Thank you. As I have time, I will post the associations that we can see are known.

From (Seventh-day) Adventist Health:

Researchers are also investigating environmental factors (infections, metals, industrial and other toxins) that may trigger oxidation, inflammation, and the disease process, particularly in people with a genetic susceptibility to Alzheimer's.

Infectious Organisms. Slow, infectious viruses cause a number of other degenerative neurologic diseases, such as kuru and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
Creuztfeldt-Jakob disease

Although no specific virus has been linked to Alzheimer's, some researchers theorize that people with a genetic susceptibility to Alzheimer's may be vulnerable to the actions of certain viruses, particularly under circumstances when the immune system may be weakened.


No connection is made here with BSE. Only a thought that some researchers somewhere "theorize" that some people may be susceptible to certain viruses. They only mention CJD as an example of a disease that is caused by a slow virus. At least they did mention that there are some that theorize a virus may cause the disease. 
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2008, 12:33:32 PM »
Loma Linda University Receives Grant for Alzheimer's Disease Research

A recent $6.55 million grant from the National Institutes of Health to Loma Linda University School of Medicine's Neurosurgery Center for Research, Training and Education will provide means for research into a cure for Alzheimer's disease.

January 7, 2003 Loma Linda, California, United States


A recent $6.55 million grant from the National Institutes of Health to Loma Linda University School of Medicine's Neurosurgery Center for Research, Training and Education will provide means for research into a cure for Alzheimer's disease.

The disease, which researchers call "deadly," is the eighth-leading cause of death in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Researchers at LLU School of Medicine believe there is a cure for AD, but they must first determine what causes the disease. The research team plans to develop a diagnostic tool for early diagnosis of AD.

Commercially available screening tests for Alzheimer's may not be too far away, researchers believe. Initial screening clinics, part of a five-year study sponsored by the Alzheimer's Association, has already begun and will ultimately include 100 healthy seniors 50 years of age and older who live in southern California.

"My feeling is that other researchers are going to get into this," says Cindy Dickson, administrator for LLU School of Medicine. "I think that there's going to be a spin-off research. They're going to see something that might attract them to what we're doing here."

"I am excited about the project because of its comprehensive design," says Lora Green, Ph.D., associate professor of microbiology and the radiobiology program at LLU School of Medicine. "And even if all of our goals are not met, we will have made significant roads into better understanding the biological processes of Alzheimer's disease and thereby improving the diagnostic options and potential for earlier therapeutic intervention."

Loma Linda University Medical Center, established by the Adventist Church in 1905, is internationally renowned for its medical research and treatments in areas such as heart transplant surgery and non-invasive proton beam therapy for prostate and breast cancer.

Source: (Seventh-day) Adventist News Network
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2008, 12:45:41 PM »
Well....in 2003 LLU did not seem to have any idea that they may be dealing with a relationship to CJD. They are looking for a cure? And, I suppose a cure for CJD also?   We have enough light to prevent Alzhemier's. The $6,500,000 could be better spent in preventing Alzheimer's. And, that includes showing that this infectious disease most likely is coming from eating animals products.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2008, 01:27:42 PM »
Maybe you need to call a meeting and present your evidence. There is certainly enough of it just on this forum alone.

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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2008, 08:46:48 PM »
Call a meeting?  Whom shall we invite? Those who want to know what causes Alzheimer's and then will walk in the light will make good Christians. :)  We are calling them!  :) And the meeting?  The marriage supper of the Lamb!  :)
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2008, 08:59:17 PM »
Amen.

At a small Church here in Central Michigan (Cadillac), there are more baptisms, per capita, than any of the other Churches I know of.  It is obviously due to the STARTNEW program.  Now, there are Churches in Grand Rapids, Muskegon area, Grayling, West Branch, Manton, and others who are piloting the program.  Soon to join is Reed City and Big Rapids.  The reason for the success of STARTNEW?  Truth.  With a Capitol T.  God's word is not minced here.  His eight laws of health are addressed without reservation.  Our 'Councils on Diet and Health' are believed and expounded upon.  The use of dairy products and eggs are also discouraged along with flesh meats.  The rise of disease and food borne plagues is openly discussed. 

Some in our own conference consider this program to be 'divisive' because some Seventh Day Adventists do not wish to 'give up' their dainties.  They prefer 'smooth things'.  It is interesting how those outside our own Church are more accepting of our health message than many of our own members!  And as stated above, the result has been in baptisms.  Praise God.

But the truth must be told.  Thank you, Brother Richard, for your investigative work on these diseases and your commitment to raising the flag concerning them.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2008, 09:54:31 PM »
Richard Rhodes wrote a book "Deadly Feasts" which documented the search and ultimate discovery of the cause of Kuru and its link to the related diseases. He had interviews with the original researcher, an American physician who was connected with the CDC. The doctor had travelled back and forth to New Guinea with vials of tissue and blood in his shirt pocket, (imagine trying that today) and in an interview warned that there could be an epidemic of TSE that would affect hundreds of thousands of people. It is well worth reading if you haven't read it.

In his book he tells of one of the first cases, a young teenage girl in England, whose death was acknowleged to be related to eating infected meat. An official from the government visited the parents of the girl and encouraged them to not tell anyone it was from eating beef. "Think of the effect on the economy if this gets out," he told them.

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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2008, 10:22:24 PM »
It is interesting that you bring up Kuru, Brother Larry. While it may have been difficult to draw a connection between Kuru and CJD or Kuru and BSE, there ought to have been a real concern about Scrapie sheep and CJD. And, today, we hear nothing, absolutley nothing about Scrapie being a risk for CJD. Did you read about CJD and its connection to sheep?
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2008, 08:27:54 AM »
Richard, yes, it is brought out in the book that scrapie infected sheep have similar spongiform lesions as do the other related diseases. I don't have a copy of the book now (loaned it to some one) but I seem to recall that the cause of scrapie was unknown and has been around for a very long time. The sheep were not feed animal by products. I noticed when I googled "Deadly Feasts" that it gave 2000 as the published date. I'm pretty sure it came out before 1997 so it may hae been up dated.

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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2008, 04:52:41 PM »
The information I am going to share is not widely published. It is not hidden, but neither is it shared. I have purposely not posted it in the more than eight years we have been online. I wanted to see if anyone knew about it. Few do. How important is the information? I believe it is very important and when Seventh-day Adventists who are walking in the light read it, they will understand. Most will go on with life as if they never read it. They will continue to eat animal products and feed their children likewise as if it were safe to do so.

Here is the statement--

The largest cluster of CJD occurs among Libyan Jews, where the incidence (1/10,000) is ∼100 times higher than incidence worldwide. The origin of the higher incidence of CJD in this population is an intriguing problem that has not yet been resolved.

Although a few studies (reviewed in Meiner et al. 1997) had pointed out the familial predisposition to CJD, it was first speculated that its frequency in Libyan Jews could be explained by their habit of consuming lightly grilled sheep’s brains or eyeballs (Herzberg et al. 1974; Alter and Kahana 1976), reflecting a shared environmental risk (exposure to scrapie-infected meat) rather than any genetic factor.


While there does appear to be a genetic factor in this disease, there is also an infectious transmission of the disease. The brain has the highest concentration of infected prions and the eyeball is connected to the brain. It would make no difference as to the cooking time, the material is highly infectious.

This truth regarding CJD, the human from of Scrapie and mad cow disease, is something that the human population has not been told. That the highest concentration of humans with CJD occurs in a population that eats sheep's brains and eyeballs is not something that can be dismissed as unimportant. This human form of Scrapie is complex. Not all who eat it come down with it. Not all who drink milk come down with Leukemia, but when the infectious agent is eaten, it puts one at risk for these infectious diseases. God has given to man a wondrous immune system, but He asks us to work with Him in preventing disease. When it comes to us that disease is being transmitted through the eating of diseased animals and their milk and eggs, it is only common sense to to understand that one is at risk by eating animal products.

If we had to eat animal products to be healthy, we would be in a spot. But, we do not. The healthiest people I know are third generation strict vegetarians. Eating a Bible based plant diet will not only remove the risk posed by diseased animals, but it will provide the best nutrition that the human body requires.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2008, 03:30:59 PM »
I am in the process of reading the book: "Dying For A Hamburger, Modern Meat Processing and the Epidemic of Alzheimer's Disease, by Murray Waldman, MD, and Marjorie Lamb. Here the authors discuss kuru, scrapie, CJD, etc.  While I have not as yet finished the book, its quite interesting how they show that Alzheimer's Disease is a fairly new phenomenon, tying it in with modern meat processing and eating.  I am just now coming to part 3 of the book where it discusses Prion Diseases.

When I finish I can give a complete report--its quite informative and interesting so far.

Also, I read and have the book: Deadly Feasts, - Tracking the Secrets of a Terrifying New Plague,  by Richard Rhodes. I will have to look through it again to give a better report. (I read it several years ago). Leafing through the book I found these excerpts underlined in red: "How the new disease (CJD) spreads is known:  it spreads in the cannibalism of animals by animals, it spreads in the industrial cannibalism of animal remains fed to animals, it spreads by the eating of beef."

As mentioned in a prior post, it discusses kuru, scrapie, CJD, etc.  It also discusses multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer's, diseases of the central nervous system. In chapter 11, Meat Bites Back, Mad Cow Disease is discussed, tying it in with kuru.  One researcher noted that mad cow disease is kuru and nothing but kuru, and "any species could be carrying it--dairy cows, beef cattle, pigs, chickens...."

...quite interesting, will have to reread the book.

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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2008, 03:31:11 PM »
Dr. Mehmet Oz, the celebrated heart surgeon, who emphasizes natural health measures was on Oprah yesterday (7-22-08). They covered several subject one of which is that the country of India has the least amount of Alzheimer's patients of any country.  They noted that they use colorful turmeric in so much of their food, which could be a factor in this phenomenon. 

I couldn'd help but think that the fact that they do not eat beef figures heavily in the low incidence of Alzheimer's there. 

Dr. Oz says the real role of a physician is to educate and guide patients as they seek to live their most healthful lives.

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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2008, 12:35:34 PM »
Yes, Dr. Oz does not have the light that we have been given, so he makes a wrong assessment of the cause of Alzheimer's. We are truly blessed to be able to draw correct conclusion from such observations. Soon, the world will see the cause and they then will see that we were correct. That God does care about them and did in fact warn them.

For those who may not know, cows are holy in India, so they are not eaten by the Hindus. Cow and bull worship was a common practice in many parts of the world, beginning in Mesopotamia around 6,000 B.C. and spreading to Northwestern India with the invasion of the Indus Valley in the second millennium B.C. by Aryan nomadic pastoralists who established the Vedic religion. What is remarkable is that such worship has persisted uniquely in India to the present day. Lodrick (1981) concludes that revulsion against sacrifice, the economic usefulness of cattle and religious symbolism ( especially as the Mother-provider) were factors contributing to the formulation of the sacred cow doctrine.  Anti-Biblical.
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Re: Missing Link to Alzheimer's?
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2008, 04:20:42 PM »
I see Larry has already mentioned the book Deadly Feasts. I read the book several years ago. One thing in the book stood out clearly to me—that CJD (prion) disease have been in this country (the USA) for many years. It has affected many different kinds of animals, and if I recall correctly, was found in chinchillas (or it may have been minks) that are raised for their fur which is made into coats and such. Those who have an interest in BSE will find the book most interesting and enlightening.
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