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Re: Milk and Dairy Products
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2012, 07:02:26 AM »
Amen. The research in this area is undeniable and so is personal experience. While we have some in our homes who do not practice health reform (against all scientific evidence), we offer not only the best counsel to begin its practice, but we can see the result of a very small experiment. Such one was that of discarding milk (organic) in the diet for a period of 30 days. At the end of that period, milk was again taken and what happened? Nausea and stomach cramps. It was believed to be a fluke, so the experiment was repeated a few days later. The reaction was the same. It convinced the skeptic in my house.

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« Reply #101 on: July 25, 2012, 05:30:31 PM »
The petition, from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), states that it is scientifically proven that milk is high in animal fats, animal protein, and sugar (lactose), making it actually more harmful than helpful to bones.

"Research also shows that children can get all the calcium they need from non-dairy sources," says the petition, "such as beans, tofu, broccoli, kale, collard greens, breads, cereals, and non-dairy, fortified beverages, without any of the health detriments associated with dairy consumption." The petition recommends calcium-fortified soy milk and rice milk as good substitutes for dairy beverages.

The petition argues that "the promotion of milk ingestion in children is, in effect, the promotion of an ineffective placebo," noting that weight-bearing exercise has as much, or greater, effect on bone density than consumption of calcium. Further, PCRM says that the high animal protein and sodium content of milk "leaches calcium from the bones."


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« Reply #102 on: July 25, 2012, 10:59:00 PM »
Good to see that the world, part of it, is getting educated!
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« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2012, 06:34:07 PM »
Scientists have created a genetically modified (GM) cow that produces milk with low levels of a protein known to cause allergic reactions in a significant proportion of children. The researchers believe it could one day lead to the sale of "hypoallergenic" milk from herds of GM cows. Source
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« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2012, 06:55:53 PM »
No tail. Their cow had no tail. What else is it missing? And they call this advancement? I don't even know what to say.  :(
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« Reply #105 on: October 01, 2012, 07:06:11 PM »
I understand. But those who like their milk will brush that off as no big deal. They even admitted that they don't know why for sure but came up with a supposedly reassuring reason.

Here is another part of the article which should raise some eyebrows.

"This reduction in the level of one milk protein was accompanied by an increase in others, namely the caseins. This is notable since it represents one of the few RNAi success stories in mammals and offers a good example of how these technologies can be used," he added.

If you know much about caseins that is not a good thing.
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« Reply #106 on: October 01, 2012, 07:27:31 PM »
No, it isn't!
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« Reply #107 on: October 04, 2012, 06:04:55 PM »
I have good news learned in a most difficult manner. My family is finally off of milk! YAY!

Because I never buy it for them, occasionally one will slip in a pint. And when they are feeling bold, a quart. That happened below my radar a few days ago and what happened? It made them violently ill. YAY! A very difficult lesson learned! They have crossed over to soy, almond and rice milks for good! Sad to say and pitying them all the more, some things are better experienced to finally get the message.

 
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« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2012, 02:14:54 PM »
Rejoicing with you, Sybil!   :)

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« Reply #109 on: October 06, 2012, 03:03:45 PM »
Thank you, Sister Dee - I am so very happy.
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« Reply #110 on: October 09, 2012, 01:07:31 PM »
A great joy in my life is that many children are allergic to milk and therefore are spared the risk of contracting Leukemia and other diseases from infected milk. Now, Satan has worked to overcome this protection for these children. Mothers are so determined to get milk for their children after being indoctrinated with a lie, their children need milk. Such a blatant lie.  Milk at one time was a good food, but that ended long ago when the cows became so sick that the milk was no longer healthy. Leukemia infects the larger percentage of all milk from cows. And, Scrapie infects many goats so that it is a very real danger in goat milk. Satan is at work to destroy all that God loves.
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« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2012, 12:54:51 PM »
If I understand correctly animal milk of any kind has never truly been good food for humans whether we be babies or adults. All living creatures including humans wean their babies from mother's milk at a certain point. Cows milk for instance, even if we could be sure it was disease free, is not the right make up for humans. It is many times too high in protein. This leaches calcium from the bones. It is not very digestable for us. We are all lactose intolerant its just that some are more so than others. There are other issues as well, aside from the concern about disease.

    It is unnatural to drink milk as an adult. If we drink any at all it naturally should be human milk. That is not practical and even seems a bit gross. However, for some reason we do not seem to see it that way when it comes to drinking bovine mucus.
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« Reply #112 on: May 01, 2013, 09:40:26 PM »
It certainly was not in the original diet given to man. But, from what I read, there was a time when milk was a good source of food for some who did not have either knowledge or availability of a healthy diet without milk. That time was before animals became so sick that milk became a very real risk for transmitting diseases to humans through milk and eggs.

For those who still think that boiling milk from what appears to be a healthy cow or goat is safe, consider the following information provided by the Animal Health and Veterinary Laboratories Agency in England.       

"Classical scrapie can also be spread through colostrum and milk. If you purchase replacement colostrum or milk, you should only do so from flocks and herds which have been monitored for the past three years and in which scrapie has not been identified, particularly if you have genetically susceptible animals. In intensively managed flocks containing genetically susceptible animals, you can reduce the risk of spreading classical scrapie by avoiding using pooled colostrum and milk. In both cases cow colostrum and artificial milk replacers should be considered as an alternative."
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We have pointed out in the past that spongiform disease can be spread by milk.  Sterilize it for as many hours as you want, and it will not stop the infectivity.
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« Reply #113 on: May 02, 2013, 02:42:14 AM »
This needs to be headline news.
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« Reply #114 on: August 20, 2013, 10:25:07 AM »
The latest article in Adventist World by liberal doctors Handysides and Landless is entitled " Where's the Balance?"    It leads one to wonder why they are off balance. Early in the article the statement is made " To be perfectly frank, we believe both a well balanced vegan diet ( no meat. eggs. or dairy products) and a well balanced  lacto oval vegetarian diet (no meat but includes dairy and eggs) are both excellent diets."

Not a word is said about the high disease factor related to dairy and eggs as being problematic. They talk about bone loss for a vegan and not a word about the bone loss that dairy causes.  In this day and age a lacto oval diet is out of balance. If that's all one can get for food on an island somewhere that is one thing. But it is another thing where apple alternatives abound. H and L are either afraid to admit that the vegan diet is superior or else they are simply unbelievers.
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« Reply #115 on: August 20, 2013, 02:19:51 PM »
Since, according to the USDA report I read, much of the diary in the US is infected with Leukemia Virus, and Leukemia is the number one cancer that kills children under the age of 15, I think it is not appropriate to recommend dairy as a healthful food. And, for many who do not know that a virus can cause cancer, you need to know it. Cancer does not just happen, it is caused. And virus causes cancer. HPV is one that most all know cause cancer, cervical cancer. Something to consider when you tell someone that milk is good for you and children need it. The healthiest people I know are third generation strict vegetarians.  The countries with the highest per capita consumption of dairy have the highest incidence of osteoporosis. The countries with the lowest per capita consumption of dairy have the lowest incidence of osteoporosis.

So, one does not have to choose between osteoporosis and cancer.  Just a little testimony.  My daughter went to the dentist at age 17 never having tasted any kind of animal product in her life. No dairy, not one little drop. Little of fortified food. Mostly fresh fruit, vegetables,  grains, beans, nuts, and seeds. The dental staff were quite surprised as many would be, she had no need of any dental treatment, but had her teeth cleaned. God's ways are best. His original diet did not include any animal products. Therefore, Christians and Jews do not have to fear by following the blueprint God gave to us.
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« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2014, 07:18:00 AM »
New study on milk reported from CBS This Morning. Maybe light is beginning to shine on its dangers. When I locate the report, it will be posted. 

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« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2014, 07:25:46 AM »
LE ROUX PARIS (AFP) - Drink lots of milk to strengthen your bones and boost your health, doctors say.

But a study in The BMJ medical journal on Wednesday said Swedes with a high intake of cow's milk died younger - and women suffered more fractures. The findings may warrant questions about recommendations for milk consumption, although further research is needed, its authors said, as the association may be purely coincidental.

A Swedish team used data taken from 61,000 women aged 39 to 74 and monitored for about 20 years, and more than 45,000 men aged 45 to 79 followed for 11 years. The volunteers gave details about diet and lifestyle, body weight, smoking habits, exercise frequency, education level and marital status.

By the end of this long study period, 25,500 of the group had died and 22,000 had suffered a fracture. Higher milk intake was not accompanied by a lower risk of fractures but "may be associated with a higher rate of death", the study said.


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More coverage: http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1627687/cows-milk-good-us-we-thought-study-suggests-not
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Re: Milk and Dairy Products
« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2014, 07:38:05 AM »
Here is the abstract of the British Medical Journal study:

http://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g6015



Here is a blogged summation from BMJ:

http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2014/10/29/the-bmj-today-is-milk-good-for-you/
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« Reply #119 on: February 09, 2017, 12:47:18 PM »
Time to let the dairy industry fail? Interesting read. They don't mention the problem of disease transmission but still interesting.

A recent article by a dairy chief executive describes an industry in crisis, stating that demand for milk products are falling. It blames health professionals for warning the younger generations away from dairy, and speaks of a new ‘three-a-day’ dairy campaign to be launched soon. This initiative will promote daily portions of milk, butter and cheese.

But hang on a minute: why are we being told yet again to ignore the experts? At the risk of stating the obvious, surely when it comes to issues relating to health, health professionals are the ones with the answers. NHS guidelines state to use butter sparingly, and warn against the high fat and salt content in cheese, so the idea of promoting these products under the guise of a health initiative seems a tad bizarre.
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