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Ele Holmes

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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2003, 06:04:00 PM »
    If you'r a meat-eater in America, you have a right to know that you have something in common with most of the cows you've eaten.  They've eaten meat, too.
   Howard Lyman's testimony on The Oprah Winfrey Show revealed the deadly inpact of the livestock industry on our well-being. It not only led to Oprah's declaration that she'd never eat a burger again, it sent shock waves through the concerned and vulnerable public and created a long law suit by the meat industry.
   "A fourth-generation Montana rancher, Lyman investigatd the use of chemicals in agriculture after developing a spinal tumor  that nearly paralyzed him.  Now a vegetarian, he blasts through the propaganda of beef and dairy  interests--and the government agencies that protect them--to expose an animal based diet as the primary cause of cancer, heart disease, and obesity in this country.  He warns that the livestock industry is repeating the mistakes that led to Mad Cow disease in England while simutaneously causing serious damage to the environment.
   "When a cow is slaughtered, about half of it by weight is not eaten by humans: the intestines and their contents, the head, hooves, and horns, as well as bones and blood, these are dumped into giant grinders at rendering plants, as are the entire bodies of cows and other farm animals known to be diseased.  Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year industry, processing forty billion pounds or dead animals a year.  There is simply no such thing in America as an animal too revaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be welcomed by the all-embracing arms of the renderer.
  "The city of Los Angeles alone, for example, sends some two-hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant every month.
  "About 75% of the ninety million beef cattle in America are routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with rendered animal parts."  Taken from "The Mad Cowboy"  written by Howard Lyman.
  Anyone reading this book will never eat a piece of meat or any animal products ever again.  Howard was appeared on 3ABN three or four times and now he has a short stop weekly. There is so much more I can tell you from the book, but for those interested go to the internet and search for Amazon Books.  I ordered three Mad Cow books for $3 and $4 each, compared to the price of $12.00. All their books are used.  I have ordered many Adventist health books, vegetarian cook books etc.
   My prayers are for those that are not total vegan vegetarians.  I pray God gives you the  desire  to do His will.  God Bless you.  Ele Holmes
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2003, 07:24:00 PM »
Americans are in for a shock one day very soon when they find out that many diseases are in their animal products and are being transfered to humans. It is just a matter of a little more time before it becomes apparent to all.
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« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2003, 01:46:00 PM »
A new case Mad Cow Disease was found November 14 in Brandenburg Germany.

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« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2003, 04:07:00 PM »
I am wondering if anyone has connected Mad Cow disease with Alzheimers disease? Could there be a relation between the two diseases?

Also could there be a connection between Mad Cow and Parkinsons disease with the dimentia that sometimes comes with it? It just seems to me that there is some kind of connection there but I have no way to prove it.

I'm so thankful for the Spirit of Prophecy to give us this light. We do need to share it with others.


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« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2003, 09:43:00 AM »
Taken from  Howard Lyman's book "Mad Cowboy"   "Since BSE (Bovine spongiform encephalopathy) has a long incubation period, typicaly not manifesting until a cow reached four to five years of age-and most cattle are slaughtered at three years-there could be no certainty that infected beef wasn't entering the human food chain.  So the U.S. government dismissed this possibility because it could only mean that the measures it had put into effect would prove woefully inadequate.
   "We don't know if Mad Cow disease has come to the United States.  Cattle were imported from Britain to the States for breeding purposes until 1987.  The presence of Downer Cow Syndrome across America is certainly cause for concern.  To date, our gorvernment has not responded to requests to step up surveillance of downer cows, and conduct autopsies of thier brains.
  Numbers of CJD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease) cases have not risen notably across the United States in recent years, butit's possible that an increase could be masked by an overlap in symptomatology between CJD and Alzheimer's disease, which is markedly on the rise.  Often CJD is confused with other forms of dementia.  When doctors at the Veterans Administration Medical Center in Pittsburgh autopsied fifty-four patients who died of dementia, they dicovered that three  of them had actually died of CJD.  Also shockingly high is the number of CJD cases that have struck the northeastern corner of Texas in the last couple of years.  Since April of 1996, eight cases of CJD have been diagnosed in this twenty-three-county area.
  Are we destined to follow in the shameful footsteps of Britain?"
(In Britain, it is estimated that at least 750,000 cattle infected with Mad Cow disease have entered the human food chain since the start of the epidemic.  Some 350,000 tons of meat, bonemeal and tallow suspected of contamination with BSE lie in cold storage in Britain....Nearly five million cows in Britain have been destroyed in the as-yet-unsuccessful attempt to stem the epidemic.)
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« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2003, 02:03:00 PM »
In the Drudge report today its headlines state that Washington State has found the first case of Mad Cow disease in a cow. But we are not to worry because the cow was not one destined to become food and so it hasn't gotten into the food chain.

What they don't say is that most cows in the USA are slaughtered well before they are 3 years of age so any Mad Cow Disease won't really show up. But evidentally this cow was a pet or something and it got sick and was tested positive for Mad Cow disease. What does this tell us?

STAY AWAY from meat, dairy and everything that has it in it!


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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2003, 04:12:00 PM »
Thanks for the quick post, Sister Deb. I just yesterday started a new topic, Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease to discuss this situation. It was just a matter of time before a cow was found to have BSE, "Mad Cow Disease", but the situation is much more dire than BSE in this cow.

We have this spongiform disease throughout the world and the U.S. Another concern is not just our food, but all avenues where animal substances will get into the body, most espcially the blood stream.

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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2003, 06:58:00 PM »
Interesting timeline --

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/12/23/madcow.chronology.reut/index.html

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« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2003, 07:43:00 PM »
It was first being reported that no meat from the "Mad Cow" was destined for the human food supply. Tonight on U.S. television news the USDA stated that none of the most likely infectious parts of the cow entered the human food chain.
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« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2003, 09:35:00 PM »
Here is the quote from U.S.D.A. Undersecretary, DR. MURANO: "Well, you should know that the agent that causes mad cow disease as I said earlier resides mainly in those tissues that I mentioned, the brain, spinal cord, distal ileum, which were removed from this animal and sent to rendering so they were not in the food supply. The scientific community believes that there is no evidence to demonstrate that muscle cuts or whole muscle meats that come from animals that are infected with mad cow disease agent themselves the meat itself is effective to human beings. There is no evidence to show that and that is as far as we can state that. It s a good thing obviously that the infectious materials from this animal were removed and sent to rendering which is something that we do as standard practice on these downer animals that are tested by APHIS."

It might be of interest that the infected cow parts that are highly infectious are thought to be in the rendering system. Understanding that the infectious agent may transmit mad cow disease to other animals and humans, the question now comes to mind as to where the material will end up?

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« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2003, 12:23:00 AM »
There are three places I know that they end up at.

Dog/Cat food, glue used in any form and pellets for feed for cows, sheep, etc.

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« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2003, 06:12:00 AM »
The United States has passed laws prohibiting the feeding of such to ruminants, but not to dogs, cats, and other animals. Also, we need to consider that rendering products include those used for contact with the skin.
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« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2003, 06:22:00 AM »
Here is a site that you all might find interesting regarding rendering plants.

http://www.purehealthsystems.com/render.html

Also the tallow used in toothpaste is another thing that comes from the rendering plants.

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« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2003, 06:26:00 AM »
This is a second place to read:

http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/render_ed.html

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« Reply #54 on: December 25, 2003, 09:44:00 AM »
Mad Cow Disease

Thanks all, for keeping us posted on this dreadful disease. Here is more info from Robert Cohen's website:

It was inevitable. The state of Washington is home to America's first mad cow....

Last summer, the U.S. destroyed Canada's meat industry by closing its borders to meat and dairy products from the north. Now it is America's meat and dairy industries that will suffer the consequences of marketing diseased flesh and body fluids.

Canadians shunned beef after their first case of Mad Cow Dis. Will Americans do the same?

A Holstein cow from a dairy farm in Mabton, Washington has tested positive. Mabton is in the center of the state, just 40 miles southeast of Yakima. The entire farm has been quarantined, but the damage has been done.

Americans have been drinking milk from that cow for many years. This is as bad as it get folks, for the disease is here. The plague is coming. Milk and dairy products may be the key to passing on Mad Cow Disease to humans.

The active substance that causes Mad Cow Disease to spread to humans and causes a brain wasting encephalopathy called Cruetzfeld Jacob Disease (CJD) is the prion. They are protein fibrils, crystalline in structure and are not destroyed by pasteurization.

Since one single cow filters 10,000 quarts of blood through her udder each day, chances are that an infected cow has spread her disease to humans in her milk. 10 pounds of milk are required to make 1 pound of hard cheese. 12 pounds of milk is used to make 1 pound of ice cream. 21 pounds of milk makes one pound of butter. (From Robert Cohen's website: notmilk.com)

"The light given me is that it will not be very long before we shall have to give up any animal food. Even milk will have to be discarded. Disease is accumulating rapidly. The curse of God is upon the earth, because man has cursed it."  Ellen White, Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 357. (Written July 28, 1899)

"...In all parts of the world provision will be made to supply the place of milk and eggs. And the Lord will let us know when the time comes to give up these articles. He desires all to feel that they have a gracious heavenly Father who will instruct them in all things. The Lord will give dietetic art and skill to His people in all parts of the world, teaching them how to use for the sustenance of life the products of the earth." Ibid. p. 359. (Written in 1901).

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« Reply #55 on: December 25, 2003, 10:28:00 AM »
The other thing that people do not know about prion is that there is no way to kill this, not cooking, freezing, antiboticsa. It is passed on by the milk, cheese or meat being eaten by humans.

This also can apply to pigs, those that eat it in the world, sheep and goats and deer. How deers are getting it is not known, but it is getting very widespread in the US as my friend Nani said in some part sof Georgia you cannot hunt deer this year.

The most important part of this disease is due to pellets that are feed to cows, sheep and pigs. These pellets are a combination of meat and grain that is feed to these above animals. These pellets come from rendering plants that use every animal under the sun from domestic animals to wild ones scraped off the street.

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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2003, 03:01:00 PM »
Sister Liane, cows and sheep are not supposed to be fed this type of food. They may, but it is against the law. However, cows made be fed chicken parts including chicken manure. Thus, the cow may get the prion through the same vector. Dogs and and cats get this material for sure.

Here is the latest on the U.S. "Mad Cow". Seems like it may have come from Canada.

ABC News

Notice that the eating of animal products is not all that we have to be concerned about. The government is taking a look at "all of the byproducts rendered from the cow, including items like soap and soil nutrients."

While God gives specific light in regards to dangers we may face, He does not expect us to ignore light when it comes to us through other sources. Some may ignore this bit of information regarding the soap with which we wash our hands, but we have been buying vegetable soap for a quite awhile. We are in the process of making our own. Prions are very potent and in the rendering process the dangerous material from sick animals is mixed with all other animals. Like milk, one dangerous animal will infect all of the material from the other animals it is mixed with. Something to ponder next time one washes their hands before preparing dinner.

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« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2003, 03:11:00 PM »
Here in the US that is suppose to be true, but from what I have read there just is not enough inspectors to be sure where this stuff is going and who is purchasing it for their products.

We must not forget toothpaste is made with pork  and beef tallow and that comes from this source of the rendering plants.  

Also the stamps and envelope that so many lick to seal comes from the rendering plants.

There is the other issue also  of the wastewater that passes through these plants after the extraction that happens is going back to the filter system of the water we drink and bath with.  

Prion cannot be burned, boiled away nor is there any treatment or antibotics that can cure it. Once you have it in your system there is nothing that anyone can  do at the present time and from what I read it does not look like there ever will be a process in which  to help those that do get it.

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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2003, 06:04:00 PM »
Lianne,  I have been told by a so-called reliable source that there are  inspecters  but they do not inspect every animal....Also not one of them eats meat....They are all vegetarian.  Can anyone prove this statement for sure?
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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2003, 08:55:00 PM »
I can't prove it, but I have heard it for years on back. If I was them I think the job would make me never touch the stuff too. It would be a big turn off. Yuk!!

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