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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #140 on: April 24, 2012, 05:06:15 PM »
Listening to the evening news, there appears to be three different stories circulating about this particular cow. Initially, one reported there was a random test of meat to be process and packaged. Another network said it was a dead five-year-old found in a barn. Yet another said the owners of the dairy cow called for testing because it exhibited strange behavior.

All three said there is no danger of drinking the milk of an infected cow. It is the meat (brain & spine) that is the problem. One government official said he is having steak for dinner tonight.

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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #141 on: April 25, 2012, 12:10:39 AM »
There is evidence that milk can transmit spongiform disease. I imagine officials are lining up to drink a large glass of milk on camera.

The presence of PrPd in distal ileum and rectal mucosa indicates transmission of scrapie from ewe to lamb via milk (or colostrum) although it is not yet clear if such cases would go on to develop clinical disease. The high level of infection in scrapie-milk recipients revealed by rectal mucosal testing at approximately seven months of age may be enhanced or supplemented by intra-recipient infection as these lambs were mixed together after feeding with milk from scrapie-affected ewes and we also observed lateral transmission from these animals to lambs weaned from scrapie-free ewes.  source
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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #142 on: April 25, 2012, 04:41:27 PM »
What bothers me the most about madcow is not the eating of the animal itself (that's easy to prevent by not eating it) but all the different things meat by-products are used. For example the gelatin capsule of vitamins being one of many.

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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #143 on: April 26, 2012, 05:15:32 PM »
Yes, Carl, and there are thousands upon thousands more that we have no idea about the chemicals from the rendering plants that processes all the sick animals.
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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #144 on: December 10, 2012, 09:51:00 AM »
Brazil now has its first confirmed mad cow.  It took awhile to publicize it.  The cow was 13 years old and died Dec. 18, 2010.  It was test for BSE April 11, 2011, with a neg. result. Retested June 15, 2012 with a positive result for BSE (mad cow disease). Retested again in the UK on Dec. 6, 2012 positive for BSE.

The epidemiological investigation shows that the animal’s death was not caused by BSE and suggests that it may be an atypical case of the disease occurring in the oldest animals. Information collected during the epidemiological investigation shows also that the animal was reared in an extensive system on grazing. Note by the OIE: Brazil is still recognized by the OIE as having a negligible BSE risk in accordance with Chapter 11.5. of the OIE Terrestrial Animal Health Code. source

So....what is the concern?  Even in a country where is no known BSE, we find there is. And, it is not the usual kind that causes humans to get the disease, but it is thought to be atypical BSE.  Atypical is the US variety of BSE.  Maybe, just maybe, atypical BSE transmits to humans a resulting CJD that does not look like the CJD humans got from eating mad cows in the Uk that had a different strain of BSE. And if so, what does the different strain of CJD look like in Brazil and the US? Good question. And maybe, just maybe, the CWD found in elk and deer transmits to humans a new form of CJD? What would it look like? And, we know that sheep have the same disease, Scrapie. Could it transmit to humans a form of CJD that is different from the CJD in the UK? And if so, what would this look like in humans? Maybe, just maybe, it could look like Alzheimer's?  Just maybe.  What does Alzheimer's look like? It looks so much like CJD that some patients with CJD are diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

If you are trusting in the government to protect you from diseases transmitted by animals, you will be sadly disappointed. The number of known cases continue to rise. But, if the relationship between BSE, Scrapie, and CWD and Alzheimer's exists, then the numbers are staggering.
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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2013, 10:58:16 AM »
With the discovery of Atypical BSE, the evidence accumulates that spongiform diseases are more of a risk to humans than previously admitted. In a recent study it was stated "Results of ongoing studies, namely passage of the E211K H-type isolate into wild-type cattle, will lend further insight into what role, if any, genetic and sporadic forms of BSE may have played in the origins of classical BSE. Atypical cases presumably of spontaneous or, in the case of E211K BSE-H, genetic origins highlight that it may not be possible to eradicate BSE entirely and that it would be hazardous to remove disease control measures such as prohibiting the feeding of meat and bone meal to ruminants."  PLOS ONE

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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #146 on: December 24, 2014, 01:21:27 PM »
I have stated a number of times that danger exists in our soil. Do not place manure in your gardens or yards. Infected prions continue their ability to infect animals and people via contaminated soil. You wonder how a strict vegetarian could come down with diseases such a CJD and Alzheimer's, well there are a number of ways besides eating animal products. We need to be more discerning of the risks.

In 1978, a rigorous programme was implemented to stop the spread of, and subsequently eradicate, sheep scrapie in Iceland. Affected flocks were culled, premises were disinfected and, after 2-3 years, restocked with lambs from scrapie-free areas. Between 1978 and 2004, scrapie recurred on 33 farms. Nine of these recurrences occurred 14-21 years after culling, apparently as the result of environmental contamination, but outside entry could not always be absolutely excluded. Of special interest was one farm with a small, completely self-contained flock where scrapie recurred 18 years after culling, 2 years after some lambs had been housed in an old sheep-house that had never been disinfected. Epidemiological investigation established with near certitude that the disease had not been introduced from the outside and it is concluded that the agent may have persisted in the old sheep-house for at least 16 years.
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« Reply #147 on: August 30, 2018, 10:57:28 AM »
Florida's Department of Agriculture announced today that a case of mad cow disease has been detected in a 6-year-old mixed breed beef cow. Source
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Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #148 on: September 05, 2018, 08:15:46 AM »
"This form of BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) is not contagious, and is different from Classic BSE, which has been linked to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) in people."

An "expert" who tells us not to be concerned about eating BSE meat. Reminds  me of England's Minister of Health who said the same about their infected cattle. Soon thereafter people started dropping dead from eating the infected cattle.
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« Reply #149 on: March 06, 2020, 04:34:06 PM »
"This form of BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy) is not contagious, and is different from Classic BSE, which has been linked to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) in people."

An "expert" who tells us not to be concerned about eating BSE meat. Reminds  me of England's Minister of Health who said the same about their infected cattle. Soon thereafter people started dropping dead from eating the infected cattle.


How come we are not hearing much about this anymore?

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« Reply #150 on: March 07, 2020, 08:09:09 AM »
The USDA only tests a very small percentage of the cows in the US. They find very few with BSE. They found one in 2017 and another in 2018. Neither "entered the foodchain" so all is well. And, I have a bridge to sell.
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« Reply #151 on: March 07, 2020, 08:29:25 PM »
The USDA only tests a very small percentage of the cows in the US. They find very few with BSE. They found one in 2017 and another in 2018. Neither "entered the foodchain" so all is well. And, I have a bridge to sell.
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