Author Topic: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)  (Read 41011 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 39900
  • A glorious sunset teaches of trust and faith.....
    • The Remnant Online
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2005, 08:44:00 AM »
Thanks for the links, Brother Bill.

Generally we keep our discussions dealing with difficulties in the church in the SDA forums. In this case it is good to have this post here in a public forum. It is not enough for Sevneth-day Adventists to understand this issue. The church did indeed take a wrong position on the matter. There is no safety in eating any animal products. It is a very risky business today.

For the sake of those who do not know, who have not seen the light the church has been given it is our responsibility to provide the information we have been blessed to receive.

Over a hundred years ago, God sent a prophet into our world and told us "the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men. The time is near when, because of the iniquity of the fallen race, the whole animal creation will groan under the diseases that curse our earth."

"Soon" and "near" were many years ago. The world can now see without the words of a prophet that the time has come when all aniimal products are a very real risk to our health and our very life.

Ten years ago before England declared BSE a human risk we had begun warning the public that it was. Today, all may know that transmissible sprongiform disease is a risk to human life and that it comes from animals.

Thanks again for your informative post. We appreciate your fellowship with us online.

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

Bill Wennell

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 337
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #101 on: June 16, 2005, 12:08:00 PM »
US's second case?

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2005/2005-06-13-01.asp

------------------
Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Bill Wennell<BR>Medical-missionary Brazil<BR>BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Suzanne

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1297
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #102 on: June 20, 2005, 02:48:00 PM »
FDA Has Not Closed Mad Cow Loopholes

The Food and Drug Administration promised in January 2004 to close loopholes in a ban on putting cattle remains in cattle food, but it has failed to act. The government calls the ban a "firewall" against the spread of mad cow disease. Eating the mad cow disease protein is the only way cows are known to get this disease.

Loopholes include allowing ground-up cattle remains to be fed to chickens, and chicken litter is fed back to cattle; cattle blood can be fed to cattle and often comes in the form of milk replacement for calves; restaurant leftovers, which include the spent oil used in frying french fries, etc., are allowed  in cattle feed; factories are not required to use separate production lines and equipment for feed that contains cattle remains and feed that does not. --Source Associated Press, June 18, 2005.

Comment: Let us be reminded that it is grossly unnatural and dangerous to feed blood and animal remains to cattle, which are natural herbivores (vegetarian). This and other intensive, risky, production-driven farming practices have given rise to various chronic, insidious and complex groups of diseases.

Suzanne

[This message has been edited by Suzanne Sutton (edited 06-20-2005).]


Bill Wennell

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 337
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2005, 04:49:00 PM »
2nd case of madcow and the trail becomes untraceable - thanks to the goofballs at the USDA!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-06-25-mad-cow-japan_x.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno

------------------
Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Bill Wennell<BR>Medical-missionary Brazil<BR>BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Liane H

  • Regular Member
  • Posts: 2365
    • http://
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #104 on: June 26, 2005, 12:40:00 PM »
Just to read this breaks my heart:

"The cow, a "downer" that could not walk, was delivered last November to a plant where animals unfit for human consumption are killed. The department has not identified the owner or the plant.

The cow's type of breed was mislabeled, possibly because the animal had been soiled heavily with manure, and its tissues were mixed with tissues from other cows, Clifford said."

How that poor thing must have suffered.

Of course all must realize that this is the slaughter plant what are called rendering plants where all kinds of animals, from cows, dogs, cats gottn from shelters where they have been killed to all kinds of wildlife are cooked into a broth, where the meat and fat are separated after cooking in very high heat.

The meat is sold to facilities that make dog and cat food that we buy in our markets for our pets. The fat is used in everything from dog and cat food to cosmetics, lotions, etc.

These plants are one of the most unknown industry that makes big money from our unwanted and discared pets. 40 million dogs and cats were destroyed all over the United States last year.

Must make one think.

Liane, the Zoo Mama

Liane, the Zoo Mama
Romans 8:19   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

WendyForsyth

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 2410
    • http://
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2005, 03:15:00 PM »
What blows my mind is how they clearly say in the article that only dead cattle are being tested. How on earth do they expect to catch a cow that has the disease before it would go to a human consumer, if they are only testing already dead cattle that are deemed unfit for human consumption?

Other countries have good reason to mistrust our meat. We have NO reliable testing whatsoever.

[This message has been edited by WendyForsyth (edited 06-26-2005).]

I have no doubt that God considers you to be one of His friends; otherwise He would not trust you with so many crosses, sufferings and humiliations. Crosses are God's means of drawing souls closer to Himself.

Fenelon


Liane H

  • Regular Member
  • Posts: 2365
    • http://
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2005, 07:23:00 PM »
The only way a test can be done is on a dead cow.

Now what they could do is have a testing system of herds before they are even sent for slaughter. Select a number of cows to be killed and tested before they even leave the ranch or farm.

That is what they had to do in England to get a handle on it. With testing on the farms they ended up destroying thousands of cows before they ever left for market.

Liane, the Zoo Mama

 

Liane, the Zoo Mama
Romans 8:19   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

WendyForsyth

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 2410
    • http://
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #107 on: June 27, 2005, 09:39:00 PM »
That's what I meant Liane. They are only testing cattle that have already died or had to be killed from obvious disease. They are not testing seemingly healthy cattle for the disease before they are sent into the human food supply.
I have no doubt that God considers you to be one of His friends; otherwise He would not trust you with so many crosses, sufferings and humiliations. Crosses are God's means of drawing souls closer to Himself.

Fenelon


Liane H

  • Regular Member
  • Posts: 2365
    • http://
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #108 on: June 28, 2005, 06:31:00 AM »
Oh they do. About a 1000 that are slaughtered daily for human consumption are tested with the brain gotten by the inspectors. They hold onto the slaughtered animal until the test has been completed and then sent out for human or to rendering plants for dog and cat food depending on the results of the test. I do not know if this is 1000 per slaughterhouse or not.

There are no protective guidelines for animal food. The rest of the animals get by and we never know if they have a disease or not, sent out for humans to eat.

Today it is allowed for the butchers to cut away the cancer parts of the meat and sell the rest for humans to eat. The discared meat with the cancer is sold to the rendering plants for dog and cat food with this meat and other things such as cosmetics, lotions, etc. from the animal fat.

Liane, the Zoo Mama


 

Liane, the Zoo Mama
Romans 8:19   For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

WendyForsyth

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 2410
    • http://
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #109 on: July 02, 2005, 01:32:00 AM »
If you read more than the spin that is in the news, you will see that other countries test far more animals than we do. 1000 cows a day is nothing. Think about how many cows are actually slaughtered and eaten and you'll realize how many cases of BSE are slipping past into the food supply. The Mad Cowboy does a great job of exposing alot of this, as well as Robert Cohen the Not Milk man. I believe our own Bill Wennell has alot of information as well.

People inside the industry have testified that there is no testing of animals for human consumption at all. Just the ones that are downers and all of those are designated for animal consumption or other products.

[This message has been edited by WendyForsyth (edited 07-02-2005).]

I have no doubt that God considers you to be one of His friends; otherwise He would not trust you with so many crosses, sufferings and humiliations. Crosses are God's means of drawing souls closer to Himself.

Fenelon


Bill Wennell

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 337
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #110 on: September 02, 2005, 07:56:00 AM »
Just to keep up to date!

http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/reuters081605.cfm

------------------
Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Bill Wennell<BR>Medical-missionary Brazil<BR>BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com


Bill Wennell

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 337
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #112 on: October 17, 2005, 04:28:00 AM »
Rash of CJD in Idaho

http://start.localnet.com/article.php?article=D8D9N2P80.html

------------------
Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
bible4u@localnet.com

Bill Wennell<BR>Medical-missionary Brazil<BR>BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 39900
  • A glorious sunset teaches of trust and faith.....
    • The Remnant Online
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #113 on: December 11, 2005, 10:43:00 AM »
Japan's agriculture ministry said Saturday a cow that died on a farm in Chitose, Hokkaido Prefecture, earlier this week had bovine spongiform encephalopathy, the 21st mad cow disease case reported in Japan.
Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

Richard Sherwin

  • Keeper of Bees
  • Full Member
  • Posts: 1567
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2006, 12:29:00 PM »
Laughter is an instant vacation

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 39900
  • A glorious sunset teaches of trust and faith.....
    • The Remnant Online
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #115 on: March 14, 2006, 05:27:00 PM »
The head of the USDA says that Japan has many more mad cows than the U.S.

Knowing the truth makes one very unhappy with such men and their spurious reasoning. Japan test every cow. The U.S. will not allow anyone to test every cow before it is sold. The U.S. is continuing to pressure Japan to buy cows that one day we will know have BSE. Shame on the USDA. Test every cow and then we will know how many cows have BSE. And, how about the sheep and other animals being raised for food?

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

Bill Wennell

  • Full Member
  • Posts: 337
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #116 on: March 15, 2006, 04:23:00 AM »
Another case found, yet testing to decrease.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060314/ap_on_he_me/mad_cow

Go figure!

------------------
Bill Wennell
USDA Meat & Poultry Inspector
BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Bill Wennell<BR>Medical-missionary Brazil<BR>BiblicalTruths2000@Juno.com

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 39900
  • A glorious sunset teaches of trust and faith.....
    • The Remnant Online
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #117 on: March 15, 2006, 07:45:00 AM »
Brother Bill, I think the wise have it figured out. I feel very sorry for the children of those who are not wise.

Thanks for taking a stand on the issue. As a USDA meat inspector, you are in a position to have influence with many and I know that God will bless you for your efforts. You may not find out in this world, but in the next you will discover some that had their eyes opened on this topic and it led them to the Truth in Christ.

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 39900
  • A glorious sunset teaches of trust and faith.....
    • The Remnant Online
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #118 on: March 15, 2006, 07:57:00 AM »
What do some in the ag industry think about the current situation with Mad Cows? Here is a quotes from an ag journal. "Japan has now confirmed a total of 20 more BSE-positive cows than have been confirmed in the U.S."

Lesson to be learned according to the U.S. ag people. Don't eat Japanese cows.

Real lesson to be learned. Don't trust those who are selling you an ag product in the U.S. Unless the ag community steps up to the plate and is honest, watch out. Where there is deception in one area, you can expect it in other areas. It is character.

Japanese test each cow for BSE. Unless they are importing meat from the U.S., your chances of eating a mad cow in Japan are many times less than in the U.S.

Here is the article by Cyndi Young

Brownfield

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.

Richard Myers

  • Servant
  • Posts: 39900
  • A glorious sunset teaches of trust and faith.....
    • The Remnant Online
Re: Mad Cow Disease (BSE)
« Reply #119 on: March 15, 2006, 08:02:00 AM »
In response to the third mad cow found in the U.S., a Holly Pond cattleman says "It'll cause a little ripple in the market but not enough to amount to anything. I'm more concerned about the bird flu than mad cow." He turned over his chicken business to his son two months ago.
Al

I guess it is getting tricky for the cattle and poultry people. Which way to I go? Both are in for financial trouble. It is like butter or margerine? Good idea to consider carrots?

Jesus receives His reward when we reflect His character, the fruits of the Spirit......We deny Jesus His reward when we do not.