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Reactor #4 Fire?
« on: March 14, 2011, 08:14:08 PM »
There are six reactors at Fukushima.  CNN reported that they heard there was a fire at #4.
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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 10:14:47 PM »
The #4 was shut down prior to the earthquake. The fire is supposed to have been created when the spent fuel was not kept cool by circulating water when the power was lost. The fire is reported to be out. The spent fuel must be kept cool.

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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 10:22:48 AM »
Now, it is being reported that the fire is not out at #4.   And....it is being reported that the radiation from the fire is not contained.

Radiation level at Tokyo is seven times normal.

Rain and snow will bring the radiation down to earth and concentrate the contamination on people, cars, homes, animals, food, and water.

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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2011, 05:20:33 PM »
The fire is either back or was not out. The situation is much worse than one imagined just a day ago. There are six reactors at this plant. Four are involved we know and are all in serious trouble.

It is reported that in reactors #5 and #6 the temperature of the cooling water is increasing.

Reactors #4, #5, and #6 were not active at the time of the quake. But, they have spent fuel and they may be more dangerous than the other three reactors. In #4 the radioactive fuel is not within the containment vessel. If the fuel is on fire, then the radioactive material will have access to the environment.
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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2011, 06:18:09 PM »
It is now being reported that #4 sustained an oil fire, not a fuel fire. It is being reported that the fire is under control. 
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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 02:49:22 PM »
Another story. #4 is thought to have experienced an explosion from the spent fuel rods. The same situation exists with the spent fuel as exists in #3. The building appears to be in better shape than building #3.
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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 03:43:38 PM »
At 3pm, CNN showed Gregory Jaczko, head of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission. He said "we believe that secondary containment has been destroyed and there is no water in the spent fuel pool and we believe that radiation levels are extremely high which could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measures."

He seems to have come to the same conclusion that I questioned about the container to hold the water for the spent rods in the heavily damaged buildings. Both #3 and #4 are a concern. I believe he was referencing #4, but it appears that both #3 and #4 could have damaged containment for spent fuel rods.

Now it may be that he did not mean the containment structure was destroyed. If not, then why use the term "destroyed"?

This is my statement made prior to his statement:


I question how much of a container still exists in building #3. If the container has been ruptured, then what will hold the water? The reactor vessel survived the blast, but did the spent fuel pool container?
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Re: Reactor #4 Fire?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 04:00:27 AM »
Sounds like it's time for injecting it with lots of cadmium and carbon, then a fire brick lined sheel cap then covered by 1000+ cubic yards of concrete then covered by lead plates and more concrete, then same for the other reactor too.   

Or inject the cadmium and carbon and collect ten thousand car batteries from the bestroyed cars and use a lift blimp to position them in place then fill the entire building over the ruptured containment dome with them, letting the heat slowly melt the mass into a solid pool of molten lead then cap as described above.

Dig a tunnel under it with remote operated mahinery,  pour a huge very thick concrete concave holding pond, pour into that cadmium and carbon, line the top with refractory fire brick and then more cadmium and carbon (charcoal blocks might do very well ).   seal the tunnel with dirt and then concrete .

Capping it from the top and sides and catching the molten meltdown debris as it hits the bottom containment pool sometime later.
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